‘It was done in cold blood’ – Keane’s assault on Haaland’s dad, 20 years on - The Athletic

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It was pathetic and cowardly.


Playing for the club where the fans regularly ridicule and victim blame his Dad for that incident. He wouldn't want a thing to do with United even if we had the "project", which we don't. People are being naïve if they think otherwise.
Jesus lets not pretend we know anything here.
 

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Reading the title reminds me of the Rick James sketch, "Unityyy! That was coold blooded!"

Not sure anyone will get that reference but posting anyway
 

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Yeah actually mental that happened.

Of course it's subjective, but that's like justifying me saying this is the worst post I've ever seen, by saying you can't argue because it's my point of view. Of course you can, because it's clearly not.
It's a different in the sense that Roy Keane's tackle was genuinely a bad one. You might find that his tackle appears in probably every bad tackle video you can find out there.

In that sense it's fair to say its probably among the worst tackles ever televised in a major league which is what most people will remember.

If you accept that, then it's not too much of a stretch to think that someone might genuinely feel Roy's is the worst. For lovers of the premier league it's probably the most memorable one.
 

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Can't read as it's behind a paywall but what else is left to tell about this story exactly?
Not a lot, mischief making at an interesting time don’t you think? And one poster here acting like it was as criminal as a political assassination. I wonder who they support!
 

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the worst thing about the whole thing for me is Keane doesn't even regret doing it
Football was a different game back then.
A year before the Keane tackle, Neil Ruddock tried to intentionally end Andy Cole's career with an X-rated lunge that snapped his leg in half in a reserve game. Ruddock bragged about it years later as if it was the funniest thing ever and that he did it for his pal Teddy Sheringham who hated Cole. Just because he was forced to apologise after, doesn't mean his apology was sincere.

Keane would have been on the pitch in the reserve game that day and seen what happened to his teammate. Leg-breaking tackles were a part of the game back then. Every team had their own hatchet man who was required to give as good as they got if the opposition came for a fight and not to play football. Every weekend you'd see a leg-breaker tackle on Match of the Day.

I guess all this was before your time if you think Keane's lunge was a one-off in the Premier league back then. It was an ugly stupid foul no doubt, but not uncommon.
 

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It's a different in the sense that Roy Keane's tackle was genuinely a bad one. You might find that his tackle appears in probably every bad tackle video you can find out there.

In that sense it's fair to say its probably among the worst tackles ever televised in a major league which is what most people will remember.

If you accept that, then it's not too much of a stretch to think that someone might genuinely feel Roy's is the worst. For lovers of the premier league it's probably the most memorable one.
That's a fair point, it is probably the most televised and talked about.
 

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Good feature in The Athletic this week on the Haaland / Keane tackle.

Although this quote got me;



Apparently, he missed Ben Thatcher assaulting Pedro Mendes while he was playing for City or perhaps Michael Brown stamping on Ronaldo as he lay on the floor. What a ridiculous, hyperbole comment.
I'm not sure it's that ridiculous. The Thatcher one was probably worse, but Keano knew exactly what he was doing and give or take a few inches, could have left Haaland's leg in an Eduardo/Ramsey like shape.
 

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Not true. He didn’t want to end his career. He wanted to hurt him.
When you go for the knee then only to cause the max damage for a sportsman.
Just imagine Keane wearing Pool or Leeds jersey, what would you say?

No one in clear mind could defend an action like this. Honestly don't know much worse actions in all sports. Maybe Tyson biting Holyfield comes to mind, maybe...
 

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I hear your talk about Ben Thatcher and raise you this:

2 mins in

The worst challenge I've ever seen while watching football. You can see blood on Hulbert's elbow yet he still protests the red card along with his teammates. Disgusting.

Griffin and Hulbert had been arguing a few minutes before this, the foul was retribution. In a cup final. In extra time. After all 3 subs had been used. And of course Barrow won after this, Stevenage players were mentally gone.
 
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You're talking out of your arse as I say, you cannot watch this and tell me ANYONE can think Keane's challenge was the worst he's seen, it's hyperbolic nonsense.

My god some of those are insane!
 

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Eh. He played the rest of the game, played four days later in another game, then had surgery on his other knee at the end of the season which ended his career. Cant even be bothered to read the article.
Should be the end of the discussion.
 

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When you go for the knee then only to cause the max damage for a sportsman.
Just imagine Keane wearing Pool or Leeds jersey, what would you say?

No one in clear mind could defend an action like this. Honestly don't know much worse actions in all sports. Maybe Tyson biting Holyfield comes to mind, maybe...
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My god some of those are insane!
Yup, some are actual leg breakers or putting people in hospital. Haaland played on but some in here are trying to convince us that “it’s the worst thing I’ve seen on a football pitch” is a non hyperbolic opinion.
It was nasty, very naughty, but feck me, that video is full of utterly horrendous leg breakers on planted legs.
 

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Haaland won’t come cos of his dad? Give me a break :lol: looks to me like you guys are getting excuses in early for him not coming when the board inevitably fecks up the transfer or he prefers city etc. Can’t imagine him or his dad give a single toss about an incident which happened 20 years ago involving a player who has long retired.
 
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Yup, some are actual leg breakers or putting people in hospital. Haaland played on but some in here are trying to convince us that “it’s the worst thing I’ve seen on a football pitch” is a non hyperbolic opinion.
It was nasty, very naughty, but feck me, that video is full of utterly horrendous leg breakers on planted legs.
Some of them are just so over-the-top, it's almost WWE level! And there is the guy who picks the guy in the head while that guy is lying prone on the ground.
 

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When you go for the knee then only to cause the max damage for a sportsman.
Just imagine Keane wearing Pool or Leeds jersey, what would you say?

No one in clear mind could defend an action like this. Honestly don't know much worse actions in all sports. Maybe Tyson biting Holyfield comes to mind, maybe...
You honestly don't know much worse actions in all sports? Seriously, feck off and get the round in.
 

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Haaland won’t come cos of his dad? Give me a break :lol: looks to me like you guys are getting excuses in early for him not coming when the board inevitably fecks up the transfer or he prefers city etc. Can’t imagine him or his dad give a single toss about an incident which happened 20 years ago involving a player who has long retired.
You dont think being clattered on the field like that is something you can shrug about?

Halaand has more excuses enough as it is not to come here. He doesnt need one.
 

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You dont think being clattered on the field like that is something you can shrug about?

Halaand has more excuses enough as it is not to come here. He doesnt need one.
I personally don’t think it’s enough for him not to come here, no. Especially since the incident involved a single player and not the club as a whole. Btw I agree that he has enough reasons not to come here, my point is that the thing with Keane and Alf is probably bottom of that list.
 

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I personally don’t think it’s enough for him not to come here, no. Especially since the incident involved a single player and not the club as a whole.
A good excuse not to favor a struggling team. We're not exactly his boyhood club.

And this is the guy who can get top dollar in most club he wants, from juventus to city and even Barcelona would be racingnfor his signature. But yeah. Extra points for clattering his dad.
 

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A good excuse not to favor a struggling team. We're not exactly his boyhood club.

And this is the guy who can get top dollar in most club he wants, from juventus to city and even Barcelona would be racingnfor his signature. But yeah. Extra points for clattering his dad.
Sorry I edited the post to clarify that I do agree that he has reasons not to come here, just that the incident is probably last on his list and more to do with that you’ve said I.e. having the cherry pick of better teams
 

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And there’s teams players wouldn’t go near either even if they are a better side, if it’s me choosing between City or United a team my dad played for or a bitter rival that this happened to my dad, I think it would come into consideration.
Haaland himself would have joined us that summer had we gone in for him.

These are professional athletes. They’re honestly not going to give a shit about the fact someone who has nothing to do with the club, once kicked their dad.

It’s as silly an idea as those who say we have a good chance as Ole is Norwegian.
 

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Football was a different game back then.
A year before the Keane tackle, Neil Ruddock tried to intentionally end Andy Cole's career with an X-rated lunge that snapped his leg in half in a reserve game. Ruddock bragged about it years later as if it was the funniest thing ever and that he did it for his pal Teddy Sheringham who hated Cole. Just because he was forced to apologise after, doesn't mean his apology was sincere.

Keane would have been on the pitch in the reserve game that day and seen what happened to his teammate. Leg-breaking tackles were a part of the game back then. Every team had their own hatchet man who was required to give as good as they got if the opposition came for a fight and not to play football. Every weekend you'd see a leg-breaker tackle on Match of the Day.

I guess all this was before your time if you think Keane's lunge was a one-off in the Premier league back then. It was an ugly stupid foul no doubt, but not uncommon.
Yeah I get all that, I was around back then. Players like Ruddock, Wise, Keane etc.. are partly the reason the rules have been changed to protect players.

But I like Keane and for all his faults I generally think (though I'm clearly biased) he's an honourable guy. I'd still expect him to be able to hold his hands up and apologise, especially after his career had finished.

His claim he tried to hurt him but not injure him is horse-shit, honestly. Sure, he definitely could've done more damage if he'd tried to snap his leg. But the ferocity of that challenge could have easily buggerred up his knee for life.
 

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So it's ok because there's worse out there?
You said you honestly couldn't think of worse actions in sport . Please don't insist on making up anything about me saying Keane's tackle was ok. I'm, very specifically, pointing out that your statement that can't think of much worse actions in support and then citing a boxer biting man's ear off as some sort of equivalence as being completely ludicrous.

Despite your claims to the contrary, no-one is defending Keane. What people are doing is pointing out that the incident has become a grotesquely exaggerated legend. If you honestly can't think of many (or any?) worse incidents in sport then the only conclusion I can draw is that you have seen and know of very little sports.

So, less of the nonsense and get the beers in as discussed.
 

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It was an awful challenge but can’t help think this is some sort of propaganda to try to guide Haaland away from us but don’t think that it would even factor in for senior or son. They’ll make the decision they feel is best for him regardless of what Keane did 20 years ago.
 

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Sure Keane had an issue with Alfie and vice versa and this was the culmination of it but it won't have any bearing on whether Erling comes here. Keane has no official connection to the club these days and on the flip side Ole is a mate of Alfie and gave Erling his debut at Molde.

With Raiola involved the next move Erling makes is going to be calculated to maximize his brand and his earnings and if United are considered the best bet by that measure I imagine we will be in with a shout. I don't think he moves this summer honestly, he seems to want another year in Dortmund and his release clause does not become active for another year so Dortmund would ask for stupid money to sell now which nobody can afford due to Covid. I think Sancho is the one who will move this year so our chances of landing Haland will depend very much on where we are at the end of next season.
 

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It was a despicable act from Keane because of the sheer malice involved. Don't care he's one of ours. At the time was the first I realised he was a nut and not in the good sense. He'd confirm it was done from sheer vindictiveness in his book even after he had a chance to cool off and reconsider, said it was because Halaand goaded him while he was injured or something, wasn't even a proportional response

Adore Keane the footballer but Keane the person is another story
 
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