If this is about 2013, it seems pretty logical (at least to me), Moyes was hand-picked by SAF. There was no other way Moyes was coming in.
“Certainly he [Bobby Charlton], Ferguson and Gill were against the move”
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It had to be. Problem of course was that he really had no qualifications to be the United manager, apart from being Scottish. If he had created a winning team at Everton, then OK, but he hadn't.
SAF supposedly saw himself in him. How? He had become a serial winner in Scotland. Also SAF isn't that miserable.
That someone would get sacked probably in his 2nd season. The club isn't a democracy and supporters can't decide about things like this. Board on the other hand... and that's basically the reality against your idealistic vision of things.
There were multiple dimwits on here who abused Sir Bobby for apparently vetoing the move earlier.
No you didn't. My point was that whatever romanticism or ethos there was in how we do things disappeared as soon as Moyes was appointed.
It was on the official announcement that United made when appointing Moyes that they had followed Sir Alex's 'recommendation to the board'.
As for Sir Bobby, he was always reported to have be firmly against Mourinho as manager for United because he felt he lacked the dignity for the job and 'pontificates' too much.
Well they were all for hiring Moyes so it shows what they know. The hiring of our next manager should be kept well away from the old guard. Football has changed a lot and Ferguson's success and control over the club insulated us from it. Now we have to move on and make up lost ground quickly.
And the same 3 people were for appointing Moyes. So there you go.
Thanks for that, Sherlock.
Two different decisions. One was right, one was wrong
Van Gaal makes one from three. Not exactly compelling evidence to give them a greater “roll” at the club.
Unfortunately it was the first one that was wrong. That made them lose all their credibility.
No you wasn’t alone, I wanted Ancelotti but was relatively happy with Mourinhos appointment...I feel a bit embarrassed by that now.
Yup. He picked a manager of relatively stable Everton side that despite low budget could sustain themselves high enough the table to have some chance of participation in Europa League.
Moyes could be legend at Everton but his choice was United and that is also on him, even with SAF visiting himself and making a proposition, at some point he could refuse and stick to his previous work that wasn't failing at all.
Because we have already suffered from Moyes and LVG time, and most of us thought it can't get any worst with Mourinho.
Well between everyone they might just have turned us into a team that might finish high enough to get into the Europa League.
I think it's a mistake to regard Jose as a mistake. He did exactly what he was supposed to do and was expected to do. It's just that now it's time to sack him.
Not making a case for that. I'm making a case against anyone discrediting the judgement on Mourinho being the wrong appointment because they chose Moyes. Both were bad appointments
The club was at risk of sliding into permanent mediocrity under LVG, so decided to employ the biggest trophy winner available no matter the cost. A club confident in its own identity would have stuck to its principles.
Heh, not to mention win it someday. Goddamn Mourinho and his lust for shiny things.
Now I think they are terrified of making another mistake. Meanwhile the whole club is in a mire while they sit in the corner biting their nails.
Another Unai Emery then.
I mentioned this the other day that Sir Bobby hadnt been at Old Trafford this season. What a sad state of affairs that our greatest ever player and universally cherished ambassador cant stand to be near this toxic place at the moment.
That is depressing as hell.
Wouldn't you want Gill as CEO?
I genuinely believe the people running the club are now at a loss on where we go from here. Mourinho was meant to return the club to the top echelons of football in the shortest possible time and they had no backup plan. This "giving Mourinho time to turn things around" doesn't wash with me. Woodward and co are atm, busy scrambling around looking for the next manager.
Mourinho filled only one category in the job description checklist before we got him. He was a serial trophy winner. The club did not want to hear any other thing. Now the club is almost unrecognisable.
This club needs a process manager. Someone who will rebuild this club's identity. We need a purist.
I'll call it now, the only reason Mourinho still has a job is because his departure will also see the departure of Ed Woodward from his role. All footballing responsibilities will be stripped from him, and rightly so.
This is a guy who gave his life for the club literally, used to go to every game home and away. The only other former Utd great who can stand alongside SAF in the eyes of Utd fans.
How do you know this isn't down to health reasons? I've seen the guy in the flesh in the last 12 months and he came across as a physically fragile guy. Don't just assume it's personal choice.
Moyes was never going to be a legend at Everton. I remember @SilentWitness and other Everton supporters here mentioning that their supporters were growing tired of him and thought he had plateaued with them. The Dithering Dave monicker didn't start at United after all.
So true
How much of Gill's perceived success was buoyed by having the greatest manager in the history of the sport making footballing decisions?
I think us fans don't know enough to have an informed opinion on that question
Oh really? Wasn't he at the wolves game with SAF?
I was one of the 81% who was in huge favour of appointing Jose 
Guess that's why I don't work in football.
Guess that's why I don't work in football.
Do you have a theme song? Like Wumbob-SquarePants? Or the PowerWum Boy? Or Go-Go Mighty Wumminator?
Good to know that nobody wanted him anywhere, just feeds the logic more of hiring him at United.
We had very few alternatives available at the time. Just like we haven’t now.
Yeah that's what i wanna know. I haven't heard anything about him staying away due to Jose.