100 Years at Old Trafford - "The Theatre of Dreams"

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Good stuff - I work in the Galleria area. I definitely owe you a beer for this read and if you won't mind, hit you up for advice on visiting OT in person one day.
 

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"Champagne Louis" and Martin and the Several Noughts! Part 1 - MUST - the independent Manchester United supporters' trust
Found this article of Toms fascinating. I grew up with the Edwards controlling Manchester United and while I never liked them I didn't realise until I read this just how big a shower they were. The Glazers are certainly worthy heirs to this crowd.
Brilliant read isnt it! really explains a lot as well.

The thing with football is i suppose people making money out of was inevitable, anything that attracts 120,000 thousand people a week to different stadiums within the countries biggest cities was always going to catch the eye of a buisinessman with no attactment to the game or any intrest or empathy with the fans. Same with anything, if it gains a mass audience then someone will find a way to make some money from it, for example there a jazz club in manchester called Matt and Phreds which is now one of the only places in town you can see free live music, if jazz was suddenly dominating the top then though and the audience in there grew you can guarantee someone would buy it and be charging 6 quid a night on the door.

One thing i did just think though, could one big club dropping ticket prices (or even just season ticket prices) dramatically cause enough of a stir for a lot of football clubs to follow? for example if a very rich united fan bought the club because of his football passion and only wanted enough money to not make a loss could drop the ticket prices by say 40%, pay the wages of the players off the insane amount of merchancdise and united franchise around the world and probably still not make a bad amount himself. Surely then when the story is in the papers than united have dramatically dropped ticket prices would then make other clubs think, especially when stories would appear saying who we are now cheaper than?

reckon this could happen or am i living in a fergie wonderland?
 

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Brilliant read isnt it! really explains a lot as well.

The thing with football is i suppose people making money out of was inevitable, anything that attracts 120,000 thousand people a week to different stadiums within the countries biggest cities was always going to catch the eye of a buisinessman with no attactment to the game or any intrest or empathy with the fans. Same with anything, if it gains a mass audience then someone will find a way to make some money from it, for example there a jazz club in manchester called Matt and Phreds which is now one of the only places in town you can see free live music, if jazz was suddenly dominating the top then though and the audience in there grew you can guarantee someone would buy it and be charging 6 quid a night on the door.

One thing i did just think though, could one big club dropping ticket prices (or even just season ticket prices) dramatically cause enough of a stir for a lot of football clubs to follow? for example if a very rich united fan bought the club because of his football passion and only wanted enough money to not make a loss could drop the ticket prices by say 40%, pay the wages of the players off the insane amount of merchancdise and united franchise around the world and probably still not make a bad amount himself. Surely then when the story is in the papers than united have dramatically dropped ticket prices would then make other clubs think, especially when stories would appear saying who we are now cheaper than?

reckon this could happen or am i living in a fergie wonderland?
The answer to that is sadly Fergie Wonderland, the commercialism of the game is here to stay. It wouldnt worry me personally so much if the bulk of the money earned is spent on the club and not frittered away like the Glazers have done
 

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The answer to that is sadly Fergie Wonderland, the commercialism of the game is here to stay. It wouldnt worry me personally so much if the bulk of the money earned is spent on the club and not frittered away like the Glazers have done
I suppose it would take someone with a serious amount of a cash and a serious love for football and to be seriously worried about the way it was going to do what i said, and the person would probably have got seriously rich by not worrying about things like football or what people think of them. Can dream though, i do think though if one club did it we could see a small change at least but the existance of someone who would make it happen is unlikely.

Not to blow my own btw but i was quite pleased with the fergie wonderland pun.
 

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Not a problem..... I work at U of H, Live in Kingwood
Old Tom, isn't Beyonce from Houston?
Would you give her a good tonking, or what? I would.

Loved the bit when you said how much it was to get in, I can remember as an eleven/twelve year old going to pretty much every home game in the 1991/92 seaon and sitting on the fence in the Scoreboard Paddock, legs dangling through and it cost me three quid fifty to get in! Doesn't seem that long ago really, that was the last season before the Taylor Report came into effect and banished the standing areas.
 

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Old Tom, isn't Beyonce from Houston?
Would you give her a good tonking, or what? I would.

Loved the bit when you said how much it was to get in, I can remember as an eleven/twelve year old going to pretty much every home game in the 1991/92 seaon and sitting on the fence in the Scoreboard Paddock, legs dangling through and it cost me three quid fifty to get in! Doesn't seem that long ago really, that was the last season before the Taylor Report came into effect and banished the standing areas.
Lol... yes, she is. Her sisters are not too bad either! Three quid fifty eh? .... That won't buy you too much in the stadium today!
 

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I wouldn't say it was a pea souper, but it's a foggy morning in Salford, and I doubt I'd be able to see the Stadium from anywhere other than right on top of it. So no glances at the top of Langworthy Road, or a look across from the tram stop at Eccles.

Ticket prices, I look back something like 34 years ago for my first game, and whilst we had comp's off Tommy Doc for that game it was probably only 2 or 3 years before my first season ticket, which cost my dad £58. I say it's going to be within what 3 or 4 years when that will be the average ticket price for everyone.