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Surely Batsmitsubishi is better than Tammy right now?
That's the thing. I look at their forward options and I think: who provides the goals? Some decent enough players there like Willian and Pedro, but these guys don't even hit double figures in the league. Then you've got by a mile the worst striker options out of the top six. It seems they're pinning a lot of hopes on CHO providing a spark, but he's coming back from a horrible injury and is still a player who needs a lot of work. I just don't see a lot of quality at all for them going forward, nobody that scares teams. Pulisic just isn't going to do enough either, this is a player whose most productive season ever was 4 goals 5 assists.Losing Hazard was bad enough. Not having thr capability to replace him has just compounded their ever existing striker issues. Tammy isnt going to cut it. The guy barely moves and in this league thats a recipe for disaster.
The other two fair enough but if you're relying on Willian to be a game changer you're in trouble. He's a slightly upgraded Lamela, both work incredibly hard and both are about as productive as each other i.e not very much.I think people are overreacting. Kante, Willian and Rudiger will make a massive difference.
Hes basically a one man team just like Hazard wasAs a positive, Emerson was a real threat .. weirdly their biggest one going forward.
Hazards contribution wasnt that of a conventional winger though.The man was chelsea's chief playmaker. Replacing him with Pulisic is somewhat disrespectful to the great man dont you think?We signed pulisic as a hazard replacement, it was known he was leaving in the summer. I’m not sure we’d have signed another winger without the ban; especially with CHO expected to break through this season (prior to his injury). We would of course have signed a striker though.
Chief playmaker and chief goalscorer, all wrapped up in to one.Hazards contribution wasnt that of a conventional winger though.The man was chelsea's chief playmaker. Replacing him with Pulisic is somewhat disrespectful to the great man dont you think?
As good as Hazard is you could make an argument that his ball dominance restricted opportunities for others and a more team orientated system with varied means of attack offers greater potential.Chief playmaker and chief goalscorer, all wrapped up in to one.
I don't trust their attacking options to prove that though, I don't see enough of those players stepping up to the level where they can replace that output. They may well be less predictable than they were with Hazard, but that predictability still offered a guarantee of star quality you're simply no longer getting now unless a couple of the younger players (cho and pulisic in particular) seriously step up to the plate and have a breakthrough season.As good as Hazard is you could make an argument that his ball dominance restricted opportunities for others and a more team orientated system with varied means of attack offers greater potential.
They really aren’t. Hazard was a big part of their creativity. They are not top 6 quality as of now. Kovacic, Kante and Jorginho offer nothing offensively. Defense is also a mess. Below average strikers at the club. It’s going to be a long season for them and you love to see it.I think people are overreacting. Kante, Willian and Rudiger will make a massive difference.
4-0 did flatter us a bit but I can't see how you can be so optimistic about Chelsea and so down about Utd.I said on here after the 6-0 City game that people will lose their mind over a scoreline rather than analysing performances. The same applies today.
We were a lot better than I expected for about 60 minutes today. We went to Old Trafford with a young side and out played United in my opinion. 2 goals in a minute and a late counter flattered united massively.
I personally thought we should have been winning at ht. united scored near enough all of their chances we missed a couple of big ones. I’m actually fairly optimistic after today. Zouma will Be replaces by Ruidger which solves most of the issues from today. Barkley and Mount can’t play together which will be solved by Pulisic. Striker is a big worry as Abraham is out of depth at this level I feel.
We were very naive once it went 3-0. Could maybe argue we were naive the entire game with how we set up. United struggle against a low block. Think a more experienced manager would have set us up to contain and counter better. This was a theme of lampard at Derby though, especially in away games. Hopefully he learns that there’s no need to set up openly against a strong counter side away.
Thought United were pretty poor today (performance wise anyway, they were very clinical which isn’t a bad thing), a lot of the issues from previous years still seemed to be there. Lack of any real game plan bar countering with high transitions. Mcguire looked solid, wont have much easier games than against Abraham though. Midfield looks really poor, Pogba was good though. Needs supported more.
The Liverpool games is in the super cup in Istanbul.I just noticed they're facing Liverpool on Anfield next match. That's very unfair for Lampard. Same nightmare Emery had last season on his debut with Arsenal facing City and Chelsea in a row.
Yeah I edited it before your post. Still a terrible start to your career at a club because they'll probably lose again.The Liverpool games is in the super cup in Istanbul.
Chelsea were by far the better team today, albeit in a very low quality match.
Yeah, I think so, too. They'll be fine.I think people are overreacting. Kante, Willian and Rudiger will make a massive difference.
That's nonsense.The Liverpool games is in the super cup in Istanbul.
Chelsea were by far the better team today, albeit in a very low quality match.
The weakest for nearly 25 years. Lost their only world class player, without several starters and unable to buy any players. Despite all that, they were still able to outplay Utd for 60 mins. Utd will finish 4th, but compared to what they once were, they're still a dull, bang average team going nowhere fast. I'd bet good money Chelsea will be better than Utd 18 months from now.That’s the weakest Chelsea team I’ve seen in a very very long time. Abraham, Giroud and Batshitcrazy up front is pretty awful.
The weakest for nearly 25 years. Lost their only world class player, without several starters and unable to buy any players. Despite all that, they were still able to outplay Utd for 60 mins. Utd will finish 4th, but compared to what they once were, they're still a dull, bang average team going nowhere fast. I'd bet good money Chelsea will be better than Utd 18 months from now.
Well, my da’s bigger than yours. So there!The weakest for nearly 25 years. Lost their only world class player, without several starters and unable to buy any players. Despite all that, they were still able to outplay Utd for 60 mins. Utd will finish 4th, but compared to what they once were, they're still a dull, bang average team going nowhere fast. I'd bet good money Chelsea will be better than Utd 18 months from now.
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is this the starting 11 of a team that can finish above top 8? The transfer ban and sale of hazard has really screwed chelsea. No way they finish above leicester, wolves and everton.
Kante sure, but the two English kids need to step up.They will be fine, meaning around top 4
Without CHO, RLC, Willian, Rüdiger and Kante.
They were great before their injuries, just when they started to shineKante sure, but the two English kids need to step up.
The Liverpool games is in the super cup in Istanbul.
Chelsea were by far the better team today, albeit in a very low quality match.
You outplayed us first 20-30 mins but that was it. I can't remember one single chance which you guys created due to your so called superior play.I said on here after the 6-0 City game that people will lose their mind over a scoreline rather than analysing performances. The same applies today.
We were a lot better than I expected for about 60 minutes today. We went to Old Trafford with a young side and out played United in my opinion. 2 goals in a minute and a late counter flattered united massively.
I personally thought we should have been winning at ht. united scored near enough all of their chances we missed a couple of big ones. I’m actually fairly optimistic after today. Zouma will Be replaces by Ruidger which solves most of the issues from today. Barkley and Mount can’t play together which will be solved by Pulisic. Striker is a big worry as Abraham is out of depth at this level I feel.
We were very naive once it went 3-0. Could maybe argue we were naive the entire game with how we set up. United struggle against a low block. Think a more experienced manager would have set us up to contain and counter better. This was a theme of lampard at Derby though, especially in away games. Hopefully he learns that there’s no need to set up openly against a strong counter side away.
Thought United were pretty poor today (performance wise anyway, they were very clinical which isn’t a bad thing), a lot of the issues from previous years still seemed to be there. Lack of any real game plan bar countering with high transitions. Mcguire looked solid, wont have much easier games than against Abraham though. Midfield looks really poor, Pogba was good though. Needs supported more.
Probably the 2 they missed most were Rudiger and Kante. Their 2 best defensive players. But yeah, CHO, Loftus-Cheek, Willian all out too. A good time to play them.I didn’t realize the lack of quality players they have until today. Looking at that team, I could not pick out one single world class player or even player who has the potential to be world class.
Maybe we were just very lucky to play them first. Hudson Odoi, Loftus Cheeks and and Kante are definitely first team players who would have made a different. Zouma was abysmal. Luiz with one leg is most likely better . Regardless, they played some good football, but just lacked the quality for end product and decision making.
Think we outplayed yous for the first half really bar the spell 20-30.You outplayed us first 20-30 mins but that was it. I can't remember one single chance which you guys created due to your so called superior play.
DDG had an easy game and our defence was very good. Midfield was wide open only because Pogba is not at his defensive best when played on 2 man midfield. Against, better teams we will have one more midfielder coming in.
Also agree with Lamp's naivety in terms of setting his team wide open. If you had defended and went for counter , things would have been different.
Our defence personnel isn’t an issue. Azpilicueta is arguably the strongest RB in the league defensively. Rudiger is easily top 5 cb in the league; maybe even top 3. Christensen is solid also. Emerson is underrated as well. I do think we’ll be exposed defensively this season but it’ll be more to do with Lampards tactics as opposed to our players. On paper our defence is pretty strong when no injuries. Depth isn’t so strong though. Kante being back will give us a lot more protection as well, should help a fair bit As I’m pretty sure we’ll be very open under Lampard (to our detriment at times like today, will be a big issue in away games).Did you watch Leicester v Wolves? Leicester in particular are being hugely overrated.
Chelsea will be ok. Would be shocked if they're challenging for 4th by the end of the season but they still have good players. Their defence is going to be their biggest problem.
Chelsea were by far the better team today, albeit in a very low quality match.
Just like us losing Rom so.Chief playmaker and chief goalscorer, all wrapped up in to one.
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is this the starting 11 of a team that can finish above top 8? The transfer ban and sale of hazard has really screwed chelsea. No way they finish above leicester, wolves and everton.