2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress

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It doesn’t work with his supporters and most Republicans. The Biden video will definitely have an effect in decreasing turnout.
You re assuming a lot of people will watch it though. The internet is a vacuum. It will be interesting to see how angry people are about Trump because it will be a major factor in deciding whether folks like Bernie and Warren supporters are willing to overlook those Biden things rather than the majority of people who already have their mind made up.
 

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You re assuming a lot of people will watch it though. The internet is a vacuum. It will be interesting to see how angry people are about Trump because it will be a major factor in deciding whether folks like Bernie and Warren supporters are willing to overlook those Biden things rather than the majority of people who already have their mind made up.
More likely the only people who would bother to watch would be people who already support Trump. Sanders would also get similar videos if he was the nominee (Cuba/Venezuela, honeymooning in the Soviet Union, Rape Fantasies etc).
 

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You re assuming a lot of people will watch it though. The internet is a vacuum. It will be interesting to see how angry people are about Trump because it will be a major factor in deciding whether folks like Bernie and Warren supporters are willing to overlook those Biden things rather than the majority of people who already have their mind made up.
Those clips can easily be made into an ad and put all over prime time TV. People will see it.
 

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Why is Gabbard not dropping out? Is it because she's clearly just trying to disrupt the democrats and wants a job on Fox news?
 

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As opposed to there not being plenty of material about Donnie?
Most people have a view one way or the other about Donnie, he is a known quantity by now. Most people know little about Biden other than being the Obama guy. This certainly doesn't paint him in the right light.
 

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What are their end goals, though? Unless you say something so vague it's meaningless, like "make the world a better place" it's... well, meaningless.
I don’t exactly know Musk’s end goals. You’ll have to ask him or Grimes.
 

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Wow, the Bernie Bros trolls are coming out in full force. If they're trying to speak out against Antisemitism, they're not doing a particularly good job at it.
Remember that absolutely nothing is beyond the pale for the opposition and every Bernie supporter must respond with a polite nod.
 

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Biden would be somewhat the same opponent as Clinton. Slow, manuscripted, "establishment" etc. Easy to spin the same rethoric and champaign as in 2016. The main reason as for why they have started their negative "reports" against Biden is because they think/assume he will get the nomination, not because they think that he will be the biggest threat. Bernie, as the opposite of Trump, could be the best candidate to beat Trump.
Trump, Graham, and Gingrich have said that they hope it is Bernie.

I don't get where does this idea that Bernie is the best candidate to defeat Trump. If he cannot win in a party that represents center and center-left, how is he gonna win over the entire population? He inspires turnout proved to be totally wrong, with the states that increased turnout going heavily in favor of Biden.

Bernie is easily the most popular in internet forums, but when it comes to the people who vote, he isn't standing that well. Even with massive financial advantage, he just got destroyed on Super Tuesday.
 

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People who believe in the Bernie bro stories can maybe think about why this wasn't bigger news

 

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People who believe in the Bernie bro stories can maybe think about why this wasn't bigger news

None of them was going to beat Trump but the sheer amount of shit he'll be able to throw at Biden means it's more than likely done. The Democrats are going to put someone with no policies to fight a guy who has never needed policies to win. It'll likely be a disaster. Bernie wouldn't have won either but at least the youth wouldn't have felt so disconnected from the party. They will disillusion all of them and they deserve it.

Nothing will change in America until they get away from this two party 'communism' which is hilarious considering they apparently hate that type of thing so much.

Edit: I'd wager to think that it's not that Bernie can't energise the youth but more so that the system of government in America has made it so that they have made them all so disillusioned that they just aren't bothered anymore because they feel the vote doesn't matter. This is what both Republicans and Democrats seem to want because one is right wing and the other doesn't want to have to move from the 'right centre' (in European terms).
 

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Is this real? I know that MSNBC is as ridiculous as Fox only on the other side of the spectrum but this? Looks like something from SNL.
What I am missing here? Are both of them and whoever tweeted it idiots, or they just never finished the second grade?
 

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And why would that be a problem ? Being against Israel does not mean being against jewish people. How can people still not understand that ?

Sanders is Jewish and they endorsed him.
 

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And why would that be a problem ? Being against Israel does not mean being against jewish people. How can people still not understand that ?

Sanders is Jewish and they endorsed him.
Sanders is also Jewish and equally as critical of Israel. Like you say criticising the actions of the state is not antisemitic
 

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Trump, Graham, and Gingrich have said that they hope it is Bernie.

I don't get where does this idea that Bernie is the best candidate to defeat Trump. If he cannot win in a party that represents center and center-left, how is he gonna win over the entire population? He inspires turnout proved to be totally wrong, with the states that increased turnout going heavily in favor of Biden.

Bernie is easily the most popular in internet forums, but when it comes to the people who vote, he isn't standing that well. Even with massive financial advantage, he just got destroyed on Super Tuesday.
I mean, it's not exactly out of character for Trump to lie, you get that?

He's not a political genius - no matter what his proponents say - and he is a compulsive liar; taking his publicly held opinion at face value is foolish.

It's also not beyond the realms of possibility that they're employing the simplest type of reverse psychology because they'd love to face Biden. Convincing Democrats that Biden is more electable - again, a nicely self-fulfilling narrative - is absolutely in Trump's interest.
 

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I mean, it's not exactly out of character for Trump to lie, you get that?

He's not a political genius - no matter what his proponents say - and he is a compulsive liar; taking his publicly held opinion at face value is foolish.

It's also not beyond the realms of possibility that they're employing the simplest type of reverse psychology because they'd love to face Biden. Convincing Democrats that Biden is more electable - again, a nicely self-fulfilling narrative - is absolutely in Trump's interest.
If they wanted to convince us Biden is so electable. Why have they spent so much time and effort on the Hunter Biden nonsense? It literally was the catalyst for impeachment he was so desperate for foreign support for Biden conspiracy theories. All quiet after he was acquitted suddenly no one cared about Hunter when Biden looked like he wouldn't recover and Sanders was the front runner.

Now oh we need to know about Hunter Biden again literally the minute Super Tuesday happened and Biden became the front runner again.

Trump is not a political genius, the obvious answer is usually the right one
 

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If they wanted to convince us Biden is so electable. Why have they spent so much time and effort on the Hunter Biden nonsense? It literally was the catalyst for impeachment he was so desperate for foreign support for Biden conspiracy theories. All quiet after he was acquitted suddenly no one cared about Hunter when Biden looked like he wouldn't recover and Sanders was the front runner.

Now oh we need to know about Hunter Biden again literally the minute Super Tuesday happened and Biden became the front runner again.

Trump is not a political genius, the obvious answer is usually the right one
But again, even if we simply take him at face value, he's still not a political genius. So even if he does think Biden is more likely to beat him, he could be simply wrong. Wouldn't be the first time, either: how many of his business ventures failed spectacularly?
 

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Is this real? I know that MSNBC is as ridiculous as Fox only on the other side of the spectrum but this? Looks like something from SNL.
Seems the originator of the tweet decided to double down:

 

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I'm no economist but, supposing for a second that statement is true, surely giving everybody $1 million dollars wouldn't be healthy for the economy.
 
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