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I remember when Michael Malice - a self described Social Anarchist - was my favourite political writer, and a big influence on my early views...but he's started playing to the right in a big way recently.

I don't think it's a deliberate grift, ala 'I'm a classic liberal but agree with every Conservative talking point' Tim Pool, Dave Rubin style. I just think he's become sympathetic to them, which is strange. He's always been deliberately provocative, counter culture, with a tendency to root for the underdog...but surely he doesn't think the right are any of those things?

Any other Malice readers/listeners noticed the change?
 

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Get vaccinated or kill Penna you selfish bastards
They shouldn’t be surprised if they end up jailed. You are enabling police’s racist and trigger happy behaviour by rationalizing it the way you did above.
No I'm not. I'm just saying you can't lurch to murder when the crowd were smashing their way in to the senate.

If a crowd tried to storm the British Houses of Parliament and ignored police orders people would die.
 

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No I'm not. I'm just saying you can't lurch to murder when the crowd were smashing their way in to the senate.

If a crowd tried to storm the British Houses of Parliament and ignored police orders people would die.
Spot on.

Was speaking to my misses about this and we were both in agreement, if people attacked Westminster like this, white, black, or brown, they'd be dead.
 

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Get vaccinated or kill Penna you selfish bastards
Totally off topic, I cant remember if its you I heard it from but I cant refer to your PM as anything other than Scotty from Marketing now! The Mrs cracks up when I do, so cheers if it was you.
Could have been as I use it all the time since The Chaser (I think) started it. Apparently he hates it. Which makes it even better.
 

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Any other Malice readers/listeners noticed the change?
Never heard of him, sorry. Also, wasn't German Lopez a tennis player?

I think good riots are good and bad riots are bad but I'm not about to go all carceral over it and demand they're locked up. I can kind of see his point in this particular instance... well, actually his point was literally an emoticon so maybe I'm inventing his point, I dunno.

Put me in charge of the punishments for the majority of those breaking the law yesterday and I'd start with fining them based upon their income (lot of wealthy people in there, those ones can lose most of what they made in the last year), a lot of community service and a mandatory course in how it's bad to be a nazi, run by the most tediously boring person I can find.
 

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Anyone still doubting what would have happened with a competent fascist in place ? The support for him among armed institutions is scary. It needs eradicating but won't happen.
 

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Damn! You go girl....


You love to see it!
I get a feeling that Cruz is trying to take up the political space of Trump. He’s more intelligent than Trump and has seen his playbook work to a great extent.

If he can stoke enough fear and division, I can see him raising billions and leading the Republican (or what party they become) ticket in 24 and win the thing.
 

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Never heard of him, sorry. Also, wasn't German Lopez a tennis player?

I think good riots are good and bad riots are bad but I'm not about to go all carceral over it and demand they're locked up. I can kind of see his point in this particular instance... well, actually his point was literally an emoticon so maybe I'm inventing his point, I dunno.

Put me in charge of the punishments for the majority of those breaking the law yesterday and I'd start with fining them based upon their income (lot of wealthy people in there, those ones can lose most of what they made in the last year), a lot of community service and a mandatory course in how it's bad to be a nazi, run by the most tediously boring person I can find.
I think he only really has a point if you think it's reasonable to equate people fighting for racial equality with people trying to lynch members of parliament, because they want to overthrow an election. Not to mention he's only comparing headlines and five years have passed between both articles. Plenty of time to potentially re-think some points on these issues.
 

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I think he only really has a point if you think it's reasonable to equate people fighting for racial equality with people trying to lynch members of parliament, because they want to overthrow an election. Not to mention he's only comparing headlines and five years have passed between both articles. Plenty of time to potentially re-think some points on these issues.
Also his best tournament appears to be reaching the second round of the French Open in 92, so I've no idea how I remember the bloke.
 

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I get a feeling that Cruz is trying to take up the political space of Trump. He’s more intelligent than Trump and has seen his playbook work to a great extent.

If he can stoke enough fear and division, I can see him raising billions and leading the Republican (or what party they become) ticket in 24 and win the thing.
No one could stoke up more fear and division than Trump - moreover it's a now proven failed playbook.

Sitting Presidents rarely lose (Trump was one of the few exceptions). The GOP has been fecked by Trumpites. I'll call a Democratic win in 2024 right now.
 

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I get a feeling that Cruz is trying to take up the political space of Trump. He’s more intelligent than Trump and has seen his playbook work to a great extent.

If he can stoke enough fear and division, I can see him raising billions and leading the Republican (or what party they become) ticket in 24 and win the thing.
Except he has the charisma of a steaming pile of dog shit. For all of Trumps massive massive failings, he still had an innate charisma that pulled people to him. Cruz does not have that at all.
 

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No one could stoke up more fear and division than Trump - moreover it's a now proven failed playbook.

Sitting Presidents rarely lose (Trump was one of the few exceptions). The GOP has been fecked by Trumpites. I'll call a Democratic win in 2024 right now.
:lol: No one on here can predict what is going to happen next week, never mind 4 years down the road.
 

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I get a feeling that Cruz is trying to take up the political space of Trump. He’s more intelligent than Trump and has seen his playbook work to a great extent.

If he can stoke enough fear and division, I can see him raising billions and leading the Republican (or what party they become) ticket in 24 and win the thing.
The problem Cruz will face, and has beforehand, is he has the charisma of a decaying roadkill.
 

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I didn't believe this was a real speech at all. Should have done this weeks ago.
"A time for healing and reconciliation." Definitely not his own idea to do this, and it wasn't written by his usual speech writers either.
 

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"There’s a photo from the riots at the U.S. Capitol of a man in a fur headdress and full warpaint, presiding over the dais on the congressional floor. The man is named Jake Angeli, and he is an aspiring actor from Arizona, but he is perhaps best known as the “QAnon Shaman,” one of the most prominent believers in the far-right extremist conspiracy theory QAnon, who regularly shows up at pro-Trump rallies in full-on regalia."
"If nothing else, the photo was proof (to everyone except QAnon supporters themselves, who predictably claimed that the pro-QAnon messaging at the rally was the work of antifa) that we had dismissed Angeli and his ilk as fringe extremists at our peril."

https://www.rollingstone.com/cultur...rrection-riot-conspiracy-theory-1110622/amp/?
 

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I didn't believe this was a real speech at all. Should have done this weeks ago.
:lol: :houllier:

So we go from "Those traitors stole the election, go get them" to "You are all a bunch of cnuts and will be arrested for something i told you to do two days ago".

He could not have thrown them more under the bus. The Trump loyals must be pretty disillusioned right now
 

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:lol: :houllier:

So we go from "Those traitors stole the election, go get them" to "You are all a bunch of cnuts and will be arrested for something i told you to do two days ago".

He could not have thrown them more under the bus. The Trump loyals must be pretty disillusioned right now
They will still follow him. I don’t know how but they will find a way.
 

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I’d never heard of Josh Hawley before this. Clearly planning a run in 2024 this one.


 

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Mostly curfew violators so far.

That means that the majority was arrested nowhere near the Capitol itself.
And we've still heard nothing further. Absolutely shocking, given how much pictures and footage there is.
 

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I’d never heard of Josh Hawley before this. Clearly planning a run in 2024 this one.


What a snowflake. Why doesn't he just go across the street to the next publisher then? Free markets, competition, etc. etc. will sort this out for him.