Dudu
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Figures. If anything, he's probably gained even more support at home then.Missouri is hardcore Trump area, he'd lose far more support by condemning Trumpism than he would be mindlessly propping it up and parroting conspiracies.
No I'm not. I'm just saying you can't lurch to murder when the crowd were smashing their way in to the senate.
If a crowd tried to storm the British Houses of Parliament and ignored police orders people would die.
It's a moot point though because a mob like that wouldn't be afforded the opportunity to attack Westminster like that. They'd be met with appropriate force long before they could get close.Spot on.
Was speaking to my misses about this and we were both in agreement, if people attacked Westminster like this, white, black, or brown, they'd be dead.
A police officer was killed ffs, and this stupid shit thought she’d cross the last line of defence before the senate and not be shot? A point where she had guns pointed at her and warned “we will shoot”. Are you fecking kidding me?I'm not gonna shed a tear but I do think it's sad she lost her life in such a stupid way.
I think a lot of people are being weird about it though. If you think the security had no choice but to shoot her, then whatever, I've not watched the video but I find it pretty believable, from what I've heard. The people finding it funny and talking about Darwin don't seem to realise how right wing they sound, though.
I love that woman, (in more ways than one )
Seems to be one of the strongest and most reasonable politicians in America right now.
Not really moot as a crowd could congregate that then tried to storm the parliament.It's a moot point though because a mob like that wouldn't be afforded the opportunity to attack Westminster like that. They'd be met with appropriate force long before they could get close.
Lone wolf terrorists have been shot dead for trying to gain entry but they can get close without alerting the authorities.
Were they wearing uniform at the time?Cop injured at Capitol dies late Thursday night
NY Times report. One of the cops died. Shit’s going to get even more real now.
Which one?Were they wearing uniform at the time?
It's clear that's why Trump has now been forced to condemn the attack, arsehole.Cop injured at Capitol dies late Thursday night
NY Times report. One of the cops died. Shit’s going to get even more real now.
Onion is a well known mace antidote. Scotch bonnet chillis are even more effective.
The way to deal with them would be to contain them at a safe distance from parliament. You are right though, if they did manage to breach any barrier and get close then they would be shot. There are armed marksmen positioned outside parliament for this reason and armed response units on standby to deal with any threat, as we've seen with Islamic terrorists in the recent past.Not really moot as a crowd could congregate that then tried to storm the parliament.
I'm hugely anti gun and violence but you try to storm a seat of government anywhere in the world and surely you must know you are likely to end up dead?
When the dust has settled there needs to be a top down investigation into how it happened. From how the intelligence community missed it or how they were ignored, how badly security was prepared and how badly security was organised during the event. Also how much collusion happened between police and rioters during the event.I don't think this has been mentioned enough. Some policemen off duty and even capitol police were with the protestors.
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20 years ago, maybe even 5, this would have resulted in Cruz resigning in shame and being considered toxic to his party.Tweet
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I don't think they missed it, it wasn't really an hidden plan. They simply didn't do their job and prepare for it, which isn't that surprising if you consider the reports made by the FBI years ago about how law enforcements are full of far right supporters.When the dust has settled there needs to be a top down investigation into how it happened. From how the intelligence community missed it or how they were ignored, how badly security was prepared and how badly security was organised during the event. Also how much collusion happened between police and rioters during the event.
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Personally i think they knew about the risks but they'll have been a culture of not being allowed to raise concerns about Trump supporters due to top down pressures.I don't think they missed it, it wasn't really an hidden plan. They simply didn't do their job and prepare for it, which isn't that surprising if you consider the reports made by the FBI years ago about how law enforcements are full of far right supporters.
This was perfectly summed up by that woman on CNN the other day, these people believe they own the country, and everything in it, and that African Americans(and other minorities with the wrong skin tone) don't. They see no problem in storming those buildings, because they think they own them.Tweet
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Yeah they definitely didn’t miss it, that’s my point. It’s also worth remembering that a few years ago Trump or a Trump appointee removed “white suprematists” as a category of domestic terrorist and in doing so ended FBI surveillance on a lot of dangerous people.I don't think they missed it, it wasn't really an hidden plan. They simply didn't do their job and prepare for it, which isn't that surprising if you consider the reports made by the FBI years ago about how law enforcements are full of far right supporters.
In stark contrast to the lady who gave a very powerful interview around the time of the George Floyd protests where she said "so what if a building is damaged, we don't own shit, and when we did you bombed us" (paraphrased).This was perfectly summed up by that woman on CNN the other day, these people believe they own the country, and everything in it, and that African Americans(and other minorities with the wrong skin tone) don't. They see no problem in storming those buildings, because they think they own them.
True. I think there was an Anarchy International one that tried it a few years ago and got nowhere near it.It's a moot point though because a mob like that wouldn't be afforded the opportunity to attack Westminster like that. They'd be met with appropriate force long before they could get close.
Lone wolf terrorists have been shot dead for trying to gain entry but they can get close without alerting the authorities.
In stark contrast to the lady who gave a very powerful interview around the time of the George Floyd protests where she said "so what if a building is damaged, we don't own shit, and when we did you bombed us" (paraphrased).
Yup that's the one I was thinking of.
Various attacks on embassies around the world, where security really will open fire without question, have shown that enough people with enough willpower can get anywhere.It's a moot point though because a mob like that wouldn't be afforded the opportunity to attack Westminster like that. They'd be met with appropriate force long before they could get close.
Lone wolf terrorists have been shot dead for trying to gain entry but they can get close without alerting the authorities.
Jesus.
Not sure if I'd want her coordinating my bloodwork.Jesus.