Actually similar explainations for made for a Somali who killed several people in a knife attack in germany earlier this year.
In this case he was obviously mentally ill but in general it's always interesting about where is the line between mentall illness and just being a evil son of a bitch.
He'd want to have long arms for that.
He probably would have if his arms were 1metre longer.
It is said in the newspaper here now, that some people were killed in their own buildings. So propably, while trying to escape the police, he entered apartment buildings or houses and killed some inside. Since he left arrows and a bow by the man in the article aboves apartment, propably used a knife too I guess. Doubt he carried two sets of bows.Geeze he must be some marksman to kill 5 people with arrows. I'm not sure what the situation was exactly but were they not able to take cover ?
I'm thinking it's easy because we're accustomed to dodging bullets.
They must have been caught totally off guard and out in the open.
ffs feck off.
He had other weapons.
Andres Bevik was mentally ill (according to his psychiatric evaluation) but most still (want to) assume his attacks were politically motivated.
No, I don't see why that should be assumed. People with mental health issues are not a particularly violent group, and mental health issues is not a prerequisite for hate.
Anders Breivik was found to be legally sane in 2012.
The first evaluation where he was found insane was pretty hilarious, in a both scary and sad way. One of the reasons they gave to find him delusional was that he was making up his own words and concept, but he didn't. They were talking about concepts very popular in far right circles, I'd been familiar with them for years personally. A quick google search would've showed this, it was amazingly incompetent.
Anti-social personality disorder though and narcissistic personality disorder though.
That's not the key in that particular case though. The key is being radicalized by the far right.
We were really just discussing whether he had mental health issues or not. I'd say his manifesto and his idea of being the future regent of Norway makes him pretty batshit insane, but not in the way that he was not aware of what he was doing.
Nah, sorry, you have no idea what you're talking about. The two cases aren't even remotely comparable.
Surely the level of hatred and lack of empathy required to actually do something like that would be a very strong indicator of being diagnosable with a personality disorder?
No, I don't think so, the last time I looked into this there was no scientic connection between mentall illness and violence. Mentally ill people are much more likely to be the victim of violence, but not perpetrators. In the everyday sense of "this guy must be crazy", sure, but not diagnostically.
In more general terms i'm more interested in to what extent you can medicalize people who do evil shit. In this case the guy was obviously mentally ill, but in general there are just a lot evil son's of bitches out there.
Not a treatable mental illness. Crucially, from a legal perspective, someone with a personality disorder never loses touch with reality. Very different to this guy, who seems to have had psychotic breakdowns in the past. While acutely psychotic he is likely to completely lose touch with reality and concepts of right and wrong.
Its not just a Norwegian thing, the Danish broadcaster, DR did an investigation not too long ago and found that the wait times for psychological counseling is around 7 months on average and this could be much higher if you're not close to the capital with a lot of private practices.
Mental health is the red headed step-child of health services all over the world. Always chronically over-looked and under-resourced.
Thats wasn't my point. It's the way in which the masses (such as us) want to confer a diagnosis given one's own political position.
This has already happened... In Denmark. feck our politicians and the people who vote them in.
Exactly. Were the SS and their accomplices all mentally ill?
I vote enhedslisten.
Perhaps, but I reiterate that the cases are not at all similar. They're at the opposite ends of the terrorism spectrum.
Talking about this case or in general?
This specific case. We've already had at least one politician blame Islam for this on Facebook and used it to propagate their racist agenda.
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I'm actually quite surprised he was able to take out 5 people with just a bow and arrow. Its quite hard to do that, unless you're hawk-eye or Legolas with reload and speed, accuracy of aim.
Well, he went into single apartments where it lived older women all on their own, if you get into an apartment there is not much they could have done to defend, they did not expect to be slaughtered either. If someone entered my home now with a bow I would be an easy prey.
