6 realistic signings to improve us?

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Sticking with “realistic” options (while we would all love for Sancho to join United, he isn't exactly realistic and the signing would be contingent on some things beyond our control)...
  • Olmo (Dinamo Zagreb): kinda wasted in the Croatian league, honestly – particularly after a stellar U-21 EURO turnout. Don't think he's in any way less talented than Maddison, but won't cost as much while being quite versatile as a side midfielder, attacking midfielder or forward. Spend the leftover £30-40 million on a leftback, which continues to be a problematic area...or possibly Camavinga from Rennes as an investment for the future or Lisandro from Ajax (versatile defender/midfielder).
  • Szoboszlai (RB Salzburg): lovely midfield talent (comparable to Pjanić at Lyon/Roma, only more physical) who could control the proceeding once he's more mature and going under the radar of late because of Håland's ridiculous goal-scoring exploits. In Muppetlandia both will join United... :lol:
  • Guimarães (Athletico Paranaense): every once in a while Brazil produces gritty all-action midfielders like Allan or Casemiro, and Guimarães might be next in the production line. Needs to be more disciplined but that will come with experience.


By no means the most experienced or ready-to-deliver Front-6, but there's a lot of talent in there (which aligns with our supposed modus operandi) and harnessing even 80-90% of it will give you a really good unit. Plus, you can switch things around because of the versatility of all three (e.g. if Sancho joins, you can move Olmo to midfield).
You have to hope we are seriously looking at these kind of players in amongst the likes of Sancho and Maddison.

It's very frustrating and difficult to understand when talented players fly under the radar for seemingly no reason. The Norwegian contingent including Berge and Harland must surely be worth a try too.
 

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This player seems to be very highly rated ever since he played against us with Vålerenga in 2017, but I'm not really convinced he is what we need. Comfortable as a screen and moves things along quite efficiently while being capable in open space...also fits the physical profile because he looks like Matić from afar, but crucially lacks coordination, dynamism in short spaces and especially a commanding first step (which can make or break contemporary defensive midfielders because they are pressed incessantly by the opposition)...that doesn't seem to be a concern with some of the other youngsters in the position (like Florentino Luís, who is a very safe prospect but quite unrealistic with his new contract at Benfica, or Bruno Guimarães). Maybe I'm short-changing Berge (who's cited by a lot of posters with Ødegaard, Håland, Ajer for Norwegian talents), but he wouldn't be a major improvement over McTominay...who is similarly okay as a screen or controlled box-to-box but lacking in some decisive elements. Of course, my assessment might be wide off the mark — and a lot of players manage to shine even without elite characteristics because they're adept at masking their flaws or the coach's system aids them, so you never know! :lol:
 

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Is Longstaff having a good season so far?
He's coming off a knee injury but wasn't very good in the games I've seen. Even last season when hype started growing around him I wouldn't say he showed a higher level than we've seen from McTominay.
 

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Brozovic
Olmo
Bale

Line up

DDG
Shaw Lindeloff Maguire AWB
Brozovic Pogba
Olmo
Rashford Martial Bale
 

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Its a very long time until the next transfer window.
Interesting topic for a thread, but yes, I agree with this post. A lot can (and probably will...) happen between now and next May / June. I need to think about who could improve us , and who we could actually potentially attract to the club (realistically...).

It is so sad to watch CL, and watch so many players who, essentially, are out of reach for a club like ours. Forget Chilwell.... Shaw is becoming a disappointment, showing little leadership and 'bottle' to be that talisman we need. I wanted us to go for Danny Rose, who has more personality, and more quality.. maybe it's his age, but that's all gone now...

So, I don't know who we could realistically buy. Some good scouting needs to be in place.

IF... we were to get top four and CL footie.. then I would look at Chiesa ( if Juve do not gobble him up...). Maybe Varane to sit alongside Maguire. We would need some emerging midfield talent, as Pogs will probably be out of the door. It's not an easy question to answer..
 

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Haaland
Sancho
Maddison
Fabian Ruiz
Oh, thats four. But i think we need at least two midfielder, a RW and a Striker.
Haaland could be the No.9 we need. Ole knows him and should have some connections to convince him.
Sancho is maybe the best RW we "can" buy and british.
Maddison seems to be one of the most talented english midfielder and Ole prefer british players.
Fabian Ruiz in my opinion the best young CM which doesnt play at a real big club and someone who can bring us back to the top.
 

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I wonder how much Zidane wants Pogba. Would RM agree to a swap deal with Ødegaard? I wonder.
RM would bite our hand off. Unproven young player for one of the worlds best midfielders?

I want us to keep Pogba, but if he wants to go, we should ask for Varane + cash in return.
 

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I know OP asks for three and realistic signings but I would rather that we get just one and that be Harry Kane. That's the type of signing which shows intent in the market. The guy is a pro and immediately the likes of Greenwood, Gomes, Chong have a proper player to look up to while Rashford and Martial can finally see what a proper striker looks like. Pogba would have another top player alongside him which would make him more interested.

In my opinion, that's a signing which would push us to next level in a way that no other combinatiion of three players can.
 

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1. Sancho
2. Maddison
3. Prefer Neves or some other deep lying playmaker talent. Dont know about Tonali or Fabian Ruis as I dont watch Seria A often. But we need this kind of player more than Rice/Partey.

If Pogba gone... the money can be used for a good forward. It would be interesting to hear your opinions on young talented strikers :)

Though If we buy one and Sancho also comes... Then Rash/Martial/James fight for one place... but I guess competition is a good thing...
 

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Three realistic ones for January would be Digne from Everton to compete with Shaw (if they are still interested in Rojo, we might be able to use him as part of the deal), Lewis Cook has potential to kick on and at worst would be a better squad option than some of the passengers we already have. Don't think he'd cost too much either. We could then go big on someone like Maddison or maybe leave that until summer and go for Haaland for that number 9 role. Endless amount of potential targets that wouldn't cost an arm and a leg and while they aren't the glamorous signings that a club like ours should be making, or players I'd have at the top of my list necessarily, they would fit it with the clubs new ethos of young, hungry and preferably Experienced in the league, and they would strengthen our awful threadbare squad and give us the chance to get rid of more crap/ players who are best their best, from the squad like Matic, Young, Rojo, Jones, Mata and Lingard (one can dream) while also having he option to loan out the likes of Chong who is obviously nowhere near ready for our first team yet.
 

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I wonder how much Zidane wants Pogba. Would RM agree to a swap deal with Ødegaard? I wonder.
Why the feck would be want Odegaard? I'd want Kroos and Isco, or one of them and cash.

Kroos and Isco straight swap for Pogba, then sign Digne, Ndidi and Sancho. They'd probably cost over £200m combined, but feck it, City spend that on full backs alone.

Martial
Rash/James Isco Sancho
Ndidi Kroos
Digne Maguire Lindelof Wan Bissaka
Dave​
:drool::drool::drool:

In actuality, we'll sell Pogba for cash only and spend £50m on Sean Longstaff, chase Maddison all summer, fail, then give Lingard an extension with pay rise.
 
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I always thought Maddison is overrated and very wary of Sancho until I watch their games at least 5 games each for several hours for two days so far

I've come to the conclusion, they are exactly the player we need, I understand why Ole wanted them.

Maddison gave me a vibes of hazard dribble where he cut in into and provide more creativity which I think is better than Pogba, even though Pogba is much better at long passe but Maddison is very mobile, fast, is capable of playing in tight space so well in the penalty box where he could cause chaos, like Mata. Maddison can spot runner so well with his though ball and playmakers, this is a huge boost for Rashford who always make a run in behind the defense and can increase Rashford and Martial's end products. Maddison is good set-pieces specialist in a corner and free direct kick, we didn't score many goals from that set-pieces so Maddison will provide us more goal with his set species. His crossing is great so Pogba can finally make run to the box whenever Maddison able to make a cross and Rashford/Martial need to improve their heading so Maddison can cross more to them.

Sancho is also playmakers, one of best playmakers coming from wingers, I have seen many of his assists is very similar and I feel Martial and Rashford could score many goals from this situation like cutback pass, I know if he gets in behind the defense, it's easy chance for Rashford and Martial on a plate to burn it. Sancho also thrives in counter-attacking, just pass to him when we break on, most of the time he will right decision and is not selfish with the ball.

I believe Rashford can learn from Sancho about making a decision if they played together for a year and come to realize if it means making the right decision mean there'll be more goal, he'll keep doing the same.

On other hands, if Pogba leaves, we need to go for Fabian Ruiz (CM) - I think he'll fit Ole's system well from 4-2-3-1 to 4-3-3 and can control midfield well because of his passing abilities. He has a great technical ability and is able to play accurate passes even under pressure and not only keeps it so simple but his ability to play through ball in for forwards are a real threat which will enable us to create chances, he'll increase AWB's offensively because of his through ball which can create a space for AWB to cross, low cross or cutback pass. His key assist is pretty high compared to most CM and has good high work-rate movement off the ball where he can move intelligently which will open space to exploit. He has very good defensive work rate where he can read the game so well and intercept the ball before he could launch a counter-attack with his dribbling and passing.
 
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Why the feck would be want Odegaard? I'd want Kroos and Isco, or one of them and cash.

Kroos and Isco straight swap for Pogba, then sign Digne, Ndidi and Sancho. They'd probably cost over £200m combined, but feck it, City spend that on full backs alone.

Martial
Rash/James Isco Sancho
Ndidi Kroos
Digne Maguire Lindelof Wan Bissaka
Dave​
:drool::drool::drool:

In actuality, we'll sell Pogba for cash only and spend £50m on Sean Longstaff, chase Maddison all summer, fail, then give Lingard an extension with pay rise.
Why I would want Ødegaard? Because he is just what United lacks, a nr. 10 with creativity, and one of the most talented footballers in the world. Last season, playing for Vitesse, he created more chances than any other player under 21 - by far.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7HU7u6WkAEQ4VG?format=jpg&name=medium

And now he´s the big sensation in La Liga, already establishing himself as Real Sociedad´s best player. And he´s 20. Why would you not want him.

+ Strengths
Direct free-kicks
Very Strong
Crossing
Strong
Taking set-pieces
Strong
Dribbling
Strong
Holding on to the ball
Strong
Passing
Strong
Defensive contribution
Strong
 

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Why I would want Ødegaard? Because he is just what United lacks, a nr. 10 with creativity, and one of the most talented footballers in the world. Last season, playing for Vitesse, he created more chances than any other player under 21 - by far.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7HU7u6WkAEQ4VG?format=jpg&name=medium

And now he´s the big sensation in La Liga, already establishing himself as Real Sociedad´s best player. And he´s 20. Why would you not want him.

+ Strengths
Direct free-kicks
Very Strong
Crossing
Strong
Taking set-pieces
Strong
Dribbling
Strong
Holding on to the ball
Strong
Passing
Strong
Defensive contribution
Strong
Odegaard is amazing. This guy clearly hasn’t watched him recently. I think we should demand hes included in the pogba deal this summer.
 

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Odegaard is amazing. This guy clearly hasn’t watched him recently. I think we should demand hes included in the pogba deal this summer.
I've never seen him play. My position on him was through complete ignorance.

Not even gonna lie :lol:

Sign him up! :devil:
 

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1. Sancho
2. Rice
3. Chillwell (if Pog stays)/ Olmo/Maddison otherwise
 

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Sandro Tonali would be really great for us to play those Carrick like passes through other teams midfields. Shame he’d probably never leave Italy
 

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In:
Sancho - 120m
Maddison - 75m
Longstaff - 45m

Out:
Pogba - 150m

Net spend - 90m

Let’s face it we won’t spend over 100m net next summer, judging from the way we spent last 2 summer. So selling 1 star player who wants out, and buying another 1 star player, 1 good player and 1 decent young player with potential would be our best hope.
that actually feels like something the Glazer backed United will do
 

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****** Mauricio Pochettino ****
2.) Jadon Sancho
3.) Fabian Ruiz


De Gea
AWB - Linderlof - Maguire - Chillwell
Mctominay/Fred - Fabian Ruiz
Sancho - Pogba - Rashford
Martial

Romero
Dalot - Tuanzebe - Bailey - Shaw
Garner - Pereira
Chong - Gomes - James
Greenwood

The quintuple!!!
Some changes. The squad above is with champions league football. I believe it is realistic. We are the most valuable club only behind Real Madrid. Hard to imagine we don’t have spending power especially if we get champions league football.


De Gea
AWB - Linderlof - Maguire - Shaw
Fred/McTominay
Fabian Ruiz - Pogba
Sancho - Martial/Håland - Rashford

Even though, I have trust in Martial, Haaland seems like a striker Pochettino can mold into a talent as good as Kane. We will have such an attack force

Greenwood, Sancho, Martial, Hāland, Rashford, James. If we don’t challenge for champions league, there is something wrong with our manager. However, Haaaland might stunt the growth of greenwood.... tough decision.
 

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Some changes. The squad above is with champions league football. I believe it is realistic. We are the most valuable club only behind Real Madrid. Hard to imagine we don’t have spending power especially if we get champions league football.


De Gea
AWB - Linderlof - Maguire - Shaw
Fred/McTominay
Fabian Ruiz - Pogba
Sancho - Martial/Håland - Rashford

Even though, I have trust in Martial, Haaland seems like a striker Pochettino can mold into a talent as good as Kane. We will have such an attack force

Greenwood, Sancho, Martial, Hāland, Rashford, James. If we don’t challenge for champions league, there is something wrong with our manager. However, Haaaland might stunt the growth of greenwood.... tough decision.
I believe Tottenham have their own forum. Why post here.
 

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1. Sancho
2. Maddison/Havertz (prefer we make a deal like Joao Felix)
3. A quick, diminutive Deep Lying Playmaker. Don't have any idea what player is in that mould these days.
 

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Matheus Henrique and Jean Pyerre from Gremio could both be players that could help us in terms of squad depth. We should be able to sign them in January. I am not sure whether they could help instantly, but considering how thin our squad is and that we aren't going to get the obvious players in January, IMO they'd be shrewd signings for the future and in case an injury crisis hits us later in the season.

Matheus Henrique is 21 years old, a play-making CM with excellent passing and good work rate. He averages over 70 passes per game and has a completion rate of 90.9 percent. He's also an excellent dribbler, and to use the fancy term press resistent. His numbers in terms of tackles and interceptions are comparable to Ander Herrera.

Jean Pyerre is an attacking midfielder, 21 years old, as well, who is also an excellent passer. He averages, 64 passes per game and has a completion rate of 92.4 currently. He probably could help with keeping possession in the final third. Both of them have a good range to their passing. Jean Pyerre averages 4.2 accurate long balls per game to 0.8 inaccurate ones, while Matheus averages 3.3 accurate long balls per game to 1.3 inaccurate ones.

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Starts at 2:45.


As for the third signing, players like Camavinga, Haland or Dani Olmo should be doable in January and shouldn't intervene with going for for players like Sancho or the players already at the club.
 

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Sancho
Haaland
Fabian Ruiz
Digne

First 11 :

DDG
AWB
Lindelof
Maguire
Digne
McTominay
CM
Pogba
Sancho
Rashford
Martial

With the likes of Haaland, Greenwood,Gomes and James coming off the bench.
 

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Zlatan Ibrahimovic, hes a swedish hero, on a free from Galaxy, he cost United zero.

I feel like Ronaldo would be worth bringjng back now too for his leadership if nothing else.
 

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Sticking with “realistic” options (while we would all love for Sancho to join United, he isn't exactly realistic and the signing would be contingent on some things beyond our control)...
  • Olmo (Dinamo Zagreb): kinda wasted in the Croatian league, honestly – particularly after a stellar U-21 EURO turnout. Don't think he's in any way less talented than Maddison, but won't cost as much while being quite versatile as a side midfielder, attacking midfielder or forward. Spend the leftover £30-40 million on a leftback, which continues to be a problematic area...or possibly Camavinga from Rennes as an investment for the future or Lisandro from Ajax (versatile defender/midfielder).
  • Szoboszlai (RB Salzburg): lovely midfield talent (comparable to Pjanić at Lyon/Roma, only more physical) who could control the proceeding once he's more mature and going under the radar of late because of Håland's ridiculous goal-scoring exploits. In Muppetlandia both will join United... :lol:
  • Guimarães (Athletico Paranaense): every once in a while Brazil produces gritty all-action midfielders like Allan or Casemiro, and Guimarães might be next in the production line. Needs to be more disciplined but that will come with experience.


By no means the most experienced or ready-to-deliver Front-6, but there's a lot of talent in there (which aligns with our supposed modus operandi) and harnessing even 80-90% of it will give you a really good unit. Plus, you can switch things around because of the versatility of all three (e.g. if Sancho joins, you can move Olmo to midfield).
Szoboszlai scored against Rapid yesterday. A real screamer....
 

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Is Rice really any better than McTominay? If McT was English he would be in the English team. Seems an unnecessary signing. Someone physical like Ndidi would be my preference.
Yes McTominay is nowhere near as good as Rice and if you ever watch him play you will quickly realize this. McT is extremely limited and would be nowhere near the England team, he is not even better than Dier.
 

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January

Bale (loan)
Haaland
Rabiot (loan)

Summer

Sancho
Ødegaard
Rabiot

Pogba deal smooths Bale loan and Ødegaard signing.
 
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Martial-Haaland-Greenwood-Gomes-Odegaard-Sancho for our attack next season please.

... sadly, maybe Rashford and Pogba should get to leave. Along with Rojo, Jones, Bailly, Lingard, Mata, Young.
so, we realistically need more than 3. We need like 3-5 unrealistic ones and 4 realistic ones.