You did cross my mind when i first saw thisMy body is ready.
Well remember that when he first came to Spurs we had several 'trouble' players with big egos - Adebayor is a great example but there were others - Poch got them all out the door very quickly.I have no doubt about Poch's coaching ability. I wanted him here badly after LvG.
I only doubt his man-management abilities now. He somehow managed to lose the Spurs dressing room, and the United dressing room is a far uglier beast to handle if Fred is to be believed.
Will he manage to get our prima-donnas in line? 4 managers have come, tried and failed.
Adebayor was crap though and hardly a mainstay of the team anyway. Poch couldn’t walk into a club and sell the best players just because they have attitude, he needs to beat that attitude.Well remember that when he first came to Spurs we had several 'trouble' players with big egos - Adebayor is a great example but there were others - Poch got them all out the door very quickly.
He did lose the dressing room 5 years later but only in the last year and that was partially down to the post-final hangover and also Poch's stubbornness to not adapt and change his ways. I'd expect him to quickly identify who are the trouble makers and he will have them all sold within the first year.
I think you would be surprised. He is pretty ruthless when he doesn't want a player. He wanted to sell about half the players in our squad last year but Levy screwed half the deals up by wanting too much money.Adebayor was crap though and hardly a mainstay of the team anyway. Poch couldn’t walk into a club and sell the best players just because they have attitude, he needs to beat that attitude.
Fair enough, maybe that’s alsomplayed a part in losing the dressing room then and prevented a rebuildI think you would be surprised. He is pretty ruthless when he doesn't want a player. He wanted to sell about half the players in our squad last year but Levy screwed half the deals up by wanting too much money.
He is a brilliant manager and you will love him if you get him.Fair enough, maybe that’s alsomplayed a part in losing the dressing room then and prevented a rebuild
Hope so bud, I have my doubts but obviously willing him with all my being for him to do well if he comes hereHe is a brilliant manager and you will love him if you get him.
The same players have also been let go by Jose. Erickson, Rose etc.I think you would be surprised. He is pretty ruthless when he doesn't want a player. He wanted to sell about half the players in our squad last year but Levy screwed half the deals up by wanting too much money.
Jose was able to come in immediately with more clout than Poch was ever given. Eriksen would have been sold regardless who was manager - very happy to see Rose go though, Poch rated him but Jose doesn't.The same players have also been let go by Jose. Erickson, Rose etc.
The problem is he'd have to get top 4 whilst doing that otherwise it's the sack. Our fanbase is clearly running out of patience for a rebuild.Well remember that when he first came to Spurs we had several 'trouble' players with big egos - Adebayor is a great example but there were others - Poch got them all out the door very quickly.
He did lose the dressing room 5 years later but only in the last year and that was partially down to the post-final hangover and also Poch's stubbornness to not adapt and change his ways. I'd expect him to quickly identify who are the trouble makers and he will have them all sold within the first year.
does seem like something we'd do. Both need to be out the door, nothing personal, but we need a whole new fresh team.All well and good until you see the club force him to stick with McKenna and Carrick as his coaches.
Does he? I think he would get at least one full season to get things sorted out. Your club is an utter mess at the moment.The problem is he'd have to get top 4 whilst doing that otherwise it's the sack. Our fanbase is clearly running out of patience for a rebuild.
He has to hit the ground running and be able to adapt, change and not be stubborn.
So in other words, he failed to refresh the squad. He should have let go some of the stars that wanted to go, rather than forcing them to stay and then leave for free. Spurs used to be pretty good at knowing when to move on players for a big profit and then replacing them with cheaper talents. If he does come here I will support him like I do with any United manager, but I fear his ceiling is fairly limited and may disappoint some.I think that Spurs lost their momentum after the CL final. Poch assembled a great squad but I think you can only keep a squad like that motivated for so long without them looking enviously at other clubs and wondering why they aren't in the same/similar situation.
They had been battling for the top 3 past few seasons and drawing short - Keeping such a lineup of talent happy without breaking the bank to keep talent around them would leave some cracks in the foundations.
It isn't. People get that impression thank to poor coaches we keep on hiring. Obviously we need improvements in key positions like RW, CM but overall we have few good players and some very good players.Does he? I think he would get at least one full season to get things sorted out. Your club is an utter mess at the moment.
That is my fear. Changing the manager but not shaking up the coaching staff. There is clearly not enough sophistocation at present.All well and good until you see the club force him to stick with McKenna and Carrick as his coaches.
All accounts I have heard/read is that he wanted to do this, but Levy wouldn't allow it.So in other words, he failed to refresh the squad. He should have let go some of the stars that wanted to go, rather than forcing them to stay and then leave for free. Spurs used to be pretty good at knowing when to move on players for a big profit and then replacing them with cheaper talents. If he does come here I will support him like I do with any United manager, but I fear his ceiling is fairly limited and may disappoint some.
Well, Ole's not had one full season yet and you can see where the patience is with the fanbase at the moment.Does he? I think he would get at least one full season to get things sorted out. Your club is an utter mess at the moment.
Which stadium is that?
Don't mind him. He's a massive Ole apologist.Does he? I think he would get at least one full season to get things sorted out. Your club is an utter mess at the moment.
I don't really care much about Ole. I'm just tired of seeing the same cycle repeat itself every couple of years, which is exactly what you're suggesting.Don't mind him. He's a massive Ole apologist.
Poch would get what any good manager should, a bit of leeway for the first year until he gets a transfer window or two under his belt, showing continuous improvement as he goes along. I think if, in his second season, we were performing worse than in his first season, he should obviously go, because that's completely unacceptable.
Completely disagree with everything.It isn't. People get that impression thank to poor coaches we keep on hiring. Obviously we need improvements in key positions like RW, CM but overall we have few good players and some very good players.
De Gea/Henderson - Been poor for several years
AWB - not an attacking wing-back which is what Poch likes
Maguire - decent
Fred - decent
McTominay - decent
Pogba - god knows - if he is an issue behind the scenes I reckon he will be gone
Bruno - could be good
Matic - old and past it
Rashford - excellent
Sanchez - old and past it
James - ok squad player
Greenwood - potentially good
is a good foundation to build on.
It's ok but not great and I think there are big question marks on several of those players.
So it is his fault that he didn't refresh the squad. Levy could have sold Erikson last season and got a replacement but kept him hoping he would sign a deal.So in other words, he failed to refresh the squad. He should have let go some of the stars that wanted to go, rather than forcing them to stay and then leave for free. Spurs used to be pretty good at knowing when to move on players for a big profit and then replacing them with cheaper talents. If he does come here I will support him like I do with any United manager, but I fear his ceiling is fairly limited and may disappoint some.
I'm suggesting if a manager isn't showing improvement in his second season upon his first season then he should be sacked. Hardly radical.I don't really care much about Ole. I'm just tired of seeing the same cycle repeat itself every couple of years, which is exactly what you're suggesting.
Fair enough, all about opinions isn't it.Completely disagree with everything.
He apparently wanted to do that but Levy demanded too high transfer fees to let them go.So in other words, he failed to refresh the squad. He should have let go some of the stars that wanted to go, rather than forcing them to stay and then leave for free. Spurs used to be pretty good at knowing when to move on players for a big profit and then replacing them with cheaper talents. If he does come here I will support him like I do with any United manager, but I fear his ceiling is fairly limited and may disappoint some.
Klopp has done the same with Dortmund before leaving them, see how that turned out.poch Left spurs in awful state, relegation form, lost dressing room, players wanting out.
so what makes you think he’s going to leave United in a position that and other manager can come in, pick up and win the league?
You make it sound like you can't have a blip season in the rebuild process, that all managers always have an upwards trend of improvement without fail.I'm suggesting if a manager isn't showing improvement in his second season upon his first season then he should be sacked. Hardly radical.
No manager in the PL has ever turned around a situation like that.