Imagine in GTA 6 having back alley abortion side missions
Abortion
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Can't speak for others but I am married to a girl I love so that makes no sense but not a very cool thing to say anyway since 6th grade
Imagine in GTA 6 having back alley abortion side missions
Also not cool to use rape and promiscuity literally in the same sentence.
Neither is judging consenting adults for how many people they want to sleep with you weirdo
The virgin comment was more directed at the other absolute weirdo, but you still came across pretty badly too
Well good thing I didn't
I wasn't making a snide remark. An honest opinion of the negative side of hookup culture.
The post you were "defending" did, in very poor taste. Even if the virgin dig is a bit cheap, it was very soft compared to what it was in reaction to. So I guess I found it a bit odd you'd react to it.
"There is a wider issue of rape culture and promiscuity that leads to unwanted pregnancies and to some degree necessitates birth control. Again, it is up to us to fix that. We need, as a society, to stop promoting casual flings and Tinder-dates as being part of who we are as a people. We have to stress the importance and sanctity of settled relationships and building a family.
It's anyone's guess as to why we don't do that anyway, especially when it is to everyone's benefit. We don't encourage people to smoke cigarettes and we limit alcohol advertising, so why don't we advise people, particularly at a young age, to get married and have a family. Instead we genuflect culturally to a kind of degrading hedonism that leaves people broken, mentally damaged, and isolated. Some of these people have to convince themselves, against inevitable doubts, that they were right to abort an unborn child that they had conceived and succoured, a life that relied exclusively on them and survived and existed only because of them"
You agree with that?
I react to it because the poster was forming a link between promiscuity and abortions. I knew he was going to get shat on till oblivion so as someone who does believe in the negative aspects of promiscuity/hookup culture I felt in good position to show that it has nothing to do with abortions or rape or so on.
I don't see what's odd about that
Seriously, what's wrong with people? Rape and promiscuity as equally serious societal problems. I'm going to have to tell that post to go feck itself.
It's scary how emboldened these people have been growing in recent years.
It's scary how emboldened these people have been growing in recent years.
You're quoting a post someone else made, that I have already replied to on a previous page, with the words agree or disagree used in the reply and asking me if I agree with this.
I think you've surpassed your frozen meals being cheaper than home cooked meals comments here.
I was double checking because it's pretty damn vile. Thanks for clarifying that you weren't agreeing accidentally.
Not sure what that has to do with anything, but I never said that.
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Fair enough.
I'm curious about something though, unrelated to abortion. If someone has no desire to be in a relationship, and assuming they have a normal sex drive, what are the alternatives to hookups and porn?
Oh dear.
If you well and truly don't want a relationship then makes sense to just hook up with someone but in my experience a lot of the times its guys leading women on when they are hopeful it can become more (and I guess vice versa sometimes). Not to mention one party now starts forming feelings and what not. Just so you know my general dislike for Tinder and the like doesn't come from "stop having sex!". I feel there is too much focus on sex and sexual attraction which causes problems especially for those who want a relationship.
I used tinder a fair bit during college but I went to a bar one day and just started chatting to a woman that I no doubt would have swiped left on upon first glance on tinder. The way she talked and presented herself was so much more interesting than how she looked and I would have missed out on that if I was just in a corner of my room on tinder. So I wish people just went out more, talked more, and saw everyone as a whole as well. Again, none of this has to do with abortion but just things I think aren't good for you
Yes, and women shall not initiate eye contact with any male except their
No one cares whether you think people should be married at 14 for life or whether you feck a different person every night. People only care about your actions. You could grow up in the perfect middle class environment and still be a cnut, you could grow up on the streets and become a Saint.
Funny thing is, abortion was legal in British American colonies (when leeches were commonly used)
what the feck is going on here? Absolute shitshow!
I saw you mentioning term limits but didn't realize you ultimately felt that the decision should not have been overturned. We're finding more common ground now.
I have a feeling other posters don't realize that when coming at you. Perhaps now is not the time to try and reason your thoughts on term limits when we've got a lot of emotions running on the more blanketed ban.
A separate thread would definitely be more appropriate. I bet it would be a great debate.
Translates to:
“I detest the fact that women can be independent with their sexuality and not being anchored by sexual activity or experimentation in their formative years.”
“I loathe that women can go out, have fun, have casual sex and, should it have landed perfectly on one of the very few days when she is fertile and formed an embryo, decide to have that encounter not define her life.”
“I want women back in the home, being mothers and wives, like back in the hood ol’ days*”
*back when marital rape wasn't even considered an issue, never mind illegal.
Was new to the thread so missed any previous!
I hope you don't have any daughters.
I think the way to solve this is to develop a method of transferring embryos from womb to womb. All we need is to register all the pro-life ladies into a lottery and bam, no more need for abortion.....until the first time the lottery winner is not ready for a baby and will have to make sacrifices to carry the unplanned child.
Was thinking the same. Thank god I'm not a daughter of folks like that.
Yeah that decision is obviously ridiculous. It's obvious the main motive for some of these states is to outright ban abortion. A 10 week limit or whatever it is they have is meaningless and same as just banning abortion.
Besides, this is just going to end up in more nasty DIY abortions that I don't even wanna imagine.
Even so, something like 80k votes across three key states would have swung it in her favour anyway - in a country of 320 million, that's a drop in the ocean. Stating that she was 'never going to win' is, well, stupid.
If you want to see the lengths to which illegal, underground abortion providers went to try to offer safe abortions in the years leading up to Roe, check out ‘The Janes’ on HBO. Sobering watch.
Absolutely agree. She should have won, but neglecting WI and MI was just stupid.
this whole 'pro-life' argument has nothing to do with God or morality or the children. its all about control and power and money. lets be honest Jesus wouldnt piss on some of these evangelicals if they were on fire. whenever the mormons (doing there door to door thing) pop by (young american white men always), i ask them do they really believe Jesus would be a gun-toting flag waving capitalist if he was in the states today? would he really want to be part of the MAGA crowd?
Seems some romantice the old age, when you had to marry and stay with your husband until death even if it was hell for both. My grandparents both would not have stayed married if they lived today - and that would have probably the best mentally for them...
I find it difficult to fathom how people can make statements like promoscuity or casual sex is bad and leads to unhappiness amd problems. Doesn't it enter your mind that, while this may be true for you and people from your social/religious circle, it isnt true for everyone and that in some circles casual sex and polygamy are perfectly normal or even the norm. This weird selfcentered closemindedness is so alien and archeic to me.
Also, the anti choice crowd should really admit their argument is an emotional or religious one. "Why cant an unborn baby choose" and similar shock crap is not rooted in logic. A fetus doesnt care whether it's aborted. It isnt sad about the missed life it could have had. It's not cognitively equiped to feel or care about anything, let alone make choices. The only (ONLY) person that has any connection to it, is the onewith the choice. No one else.
I sympathize with people being anti abortion from a religious stand point, but don't try to bring that faux logic crap about a fetus' choice into the equasion or try to guildtrip women into thinking they're killing a person.
Also, the anti choice crowd should really admit their argument is an emotional or religious one. "Why cant an unborn baby choose" and similar shock crap is not rooted in logic. A fetus doesnt care whether it's aborted. It isnt sad about the missed life it could have had. It's not cognitively equiped to feel or care about anything, let alone make choices. The only (ONLY) person that has any connection to it, is the onewith the choice. No one else.
I sympathize with people being anti abortion from a religious stand point, but don't try to bring that faux logic crap about a fetus' choice into the equasion or try to guildtrip women into thinking they're killing a person.
Democrats should expose Republicans who get an abortion, there'll always be a few. Get dirty.
Yeah, they were married for 50 years...
--- "50 years, wow, imagine loving someone for that long!"
Well, they wouldn't know...
Is there even any evidence at all that leading a "promiscuous" lifestyle is any more mentally/ emotionally taxing then being legally married/ settled down with a partner?
Or are some posters just projecting their idea of what makes them content on to others?
Or are some posters just projecting their idea of what makes them content on to others?
I'd argue that for late teens/20-somethings, a single/promiscuous lifestyle is much healthier emotionally than trying to force this outdated notion of early marriage and kids. At least among those I know around my age, all the worst marriages that ended in divorce and led to all kinds of problems (primarily for the ones with kids) were people that married their "high school sweetheart" or someone before age 25. People think they know what they want then, but usually they don't and/or it changes dramatically throughout their 20s. This Victorian era ideal, IMO, turned out the worst scenarios for people. The healthy marriages I know are pretty much all 30+ when people really know who they are and what they want out of life. Obviously, there will be exceptions on both sides since everyone is different.
To be fair, to some I've met and read, it really is about God and morality because they are true believers.
And to answer something earlier, there does exist a small group, at least, of the "pro-life" crowd that is trying to make it about "life" not just being pro-birth:
"After the fall of Roe, some abortion opponents think it’s time to focus on expanding America’s social safety net. Will the rest of their movement join them?"
https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...bortion-movement-dobbs-roe-overturned/661393/
Definitely a man. Probably religious - catholic, maybe. Possibly a virgin.
None of those things invalidate the argument of course, but they do suggest the quality of thought involved.
yup