ThierryHenry14
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well, just found out he won PFA award for January. Keep up the good work.
You wouldn't pay £15m for him?
Even as an impact player off the bench he would be easily worth that.
Traore is miles better than dan James in my opinion. He regularly beats fullbacks on the outside and puts dangerous crosses in, James doesn’t. In today’s market for a league proven right winger, I think 50-60m is about right. Obviously the less we pay the better but if he could be got for 50m with some add ons based on stats I would be happy for us to get him. Pepe for Arsenal cost 70m wasn’t it?
Crazy, genuinely not sure if serious...
Wolves are basically my 2nd team after Utd and Traore is a proper player mate.
Daniel James wouldn't be starting in this current Wolves side, and I say that as someone who like James.
Traore will be a genuine superstar within a few seasons.
I might have overegged the pudding a little bit, but he’s not £60m worth of player. Certainly not from what I’ve seen of him. And I’ve seen him a lot recently. Just because Arsenal massively overpaid for Pepe doesn’t make Traoré a world beater. But yes, he is probably better than James.there is higher chance for him to join Man City or Liverpool than Man Utd, regardless of how much money you are willing to pay.
Makes no difference. He is a known quantity and if defenders could have him figured that easy they would have already.This is the first season hes been anything other than a sub brought on late to tire out opponents.
He literally ran the whole pitch and setup the best chance of the match............Don't rate him really. First couple of games against Wolves this season he was giving me a heart attack every 5 mins, wasn't in the slightest bit worried at any point a few days back. He's very good at getting into dangerous positions but terrible at taking advantage of them. Reminds me of Sissoko when he was playing on the wing - he could look great in brief glimpses, he wasn't though.
Maguire is 80mI might have overegged the pudding a little bit, but he’s not £60m worth of player. Certainly not from what I’ve seen of him. And I’ve seen him a lot recently. Just because Arsenal massively overpaid for Pepe doesn’t make Traoré a world beater. But yes, he is probably better than James.
He had a lot of chances to do something in all of our games this season, he rarely did though. Creating a good chance after fluffing half a dozen isn't going to make me fear him.He literally ran the whole pitch and setup the best chance of the match............
Some of you guys are funny it's like you didn't watch the game.
He's already quite good in that regard, whole reason he's finally went from curiosity to serious player this seasonTraore is a phenomenal ball carrier. At a level that’s both rare, and expensive to purchase.
His decision making is terrible at times though.
People focus on end product too much. If he could simply pick up the ball, break through lines and play a simple pass, he’d be worth a fortune. He doesn’t need boat loads of assists or goals to be worth a packet.
First he'd need to be coached to run without the ballIsn't that where playing with top players comes into play. If he was playing for City he would have all the time in the world. He would probably get the ball on the run in miles of space 5-10 times a game. Thats easily enough to cause serious damage.
Man City looked alright when they had Sane in the left and Sterling on the right... Sterling was more dangerous on that side if I remember correctly, Sane definitely was. If you have devasting pace like Sane and Traore I guess it lends yourself to being more dangerous on your foot side, as you can make the most of the space down the flank, therefore dragging defenders out and creating more space centrally for team-mates. E.g. all of Sane's many many assists for Sterling in the previous two seasons.I just hate this hype for right footed right wingers when nearly all our rivals has a nice balanced symmetry of a right footed attacker on the left and a left footed attacker on the right.
I find the symmetry, cohesion, attacking angles of any attack a very underrated aspect of any formation - and as good as traore is for me, I don't see him anymore than a RWB for me.
I guess the thing with Sane/Sterling is that 1 is still left-footed and the other right-footed. With Traore you'd have 2 right-footed wingers.Man City looked alright when they had Sane in the left and Sterling on the right... Sterling was more dangerous on that side if I remember correctly, Sane definitely was. If you have devasting pace like Sane and Traore I guess it lends yourself to being more dangerous on your foot side, as you can make the most of the space down the flank, therefore dragging defenders out and creating more space centrally for team-mates. E.g. all of Sane's many many assists for Sterling in the previous two seasons.
I don’t get the love in for Traore either. This has turned into a Traore v James thread but without the name. If Traore played for us and James for them it would be a James love in.I could have sworn there was another thread about him?
Anyway, his technique is barely Championship level if we're honest. He's almost totally reliant on his ridiculous pace and strength. It's working to great effect right now but it never takes long for PL defenders to figure out one dimensional players like that. By this time next year they will know to give him a few yards, close him before he gets the ball under control, or whatever else works best, and he'll be quickly into obscurity. Wolves should cash in this summer whilst his profile is sky high.
You are too narrow-minded with your wide players.I just hate this hype for right footed right wingers when nearly all our rivals has a nice balanced symmetry of a right footed attacker on the left and a left footed attacker on the right.
I find the symmetry, cohesion, attacking angles of any attack a very underrated aspect of any formation - and as good as traore is for me, I don't see him anymore than a RWB for me.
That's fair.You are too narrow-minded with your wide players.
Traore is not a wing back.
Played as a wb earlier in the season and did really well. He's more natural there rather than at forward because he just does not attack without the ballYou are too narrow-minded with your wide players.
Traore is not a wing back.
I don’t think anyone would notice James similar to how we didn’t at Swansea. James is very lucky to be here thanks to Giggsy. I feel the next manager will send him out on loan.I don’t get the love in for Traore either. This has turned into a Traore v James thread but without the name. If Traore played for us and James for them it would be a James love in.
What did you expect. Some are still deciding if Ole is the right man. Adama would be a shrewd piece of business. Valencia like.From watching him every week, I can safely say that Adama is well on his way to becoming a phenomenal player.
Some of you lot are worse at identifying talent than Ed Woodward!
Yeah it’s a poor showing.From watching him every week, I can safely say that Adama is well on his way to becoming a phenomenal player.
Some of you lot are worse at identifying talent than Ed Woodward!
Can't waitYeah it’s a poor showing.
I think next week I’ll write up a tutorial on how to watch footballers critically. You’re all very welcome, I just like to share my expertise and help others become a better level of football fans
Press rumours have him priced at £70m. More than twice his worth IMHO. Forget this.What did you expect. Some are still deciding if Ole is the right man. Adama would be a shrewd piece of business. Valencia like.
AWB would eat him for breakfast, Traore is pure streght and speed, got nothing on the spiderSuch a shame he plays on the right and therefore we'll never get to see him line up against AWB. If that's not the definition of unstoppable force vs immoveable object I don't know what is.
Traore destroyed Shaw 1st Leg in the leagueAWB would eat him for breakfast, Traore is pure streght and speed, got nothing on the spider
Mmmm hmm totally agree... do not see the hype around him.Press rumours have him priced at £70m. More than twice his worth IMHO. Forget this.
I think he'd be a great fit for United on the right wing. He's a class player and would really fill a hole in the United 11.Press rumours have him priced at £70m. More than twice his worth IMHO. Forget this.
And? AWB is another level when it comes to shutting out opps completely. Don't get the comparison :STraore destroyed Shaw 1st Leg in the league
Sorry I thought we were talking about Wan Bissaka, not about Shaw?Traore destroyed Shaw 1st Leg in the league
That means Shaw isn't really good enough for PL winning side and certainly not ECL winning quality. United need to upgrade left back. If Traore were that good he'd destroy every left-back in the league We'd see it in his stats. His stats say 4 goals and 7 assists in 2073 minutes of PL football. Not a patch on Sancho. You can have Traore or Sancho. Not both.Traore destroyed Shaw 1st Leg in the league
If memory serves me right we were pretty comfortable at Molyneaux this season until he came off the bench and tore it up.He is an over rated speed merchant. Every time he has played against us he has done nothing to write home about.
Nah disagree, I don’t really rate Traore that highly but he is absolutely capable of destroying any fullback in world football with his pace and power. His end product has always been his issue but make no mistake, he’s a very difficult man to stop. He caused Liverpool and City all kinds of problems this season so Shaw shouldn’t be judged too harshly on fully nullifying him.That means Shaw isn't really good enough for PL winning side and certainly not ECL winning quality. United need to upgrade left back. If Traore were that good he'd destroy every left-back in the league We'd see it in his stats. His stats say 4 goals and 7 assists in 2073 minutes of PL football. Not a patch on Sancho. You can have Traore or Sancho. Not both.
Wasn't comparing. Actually just reminiscing cause I found it funny. That was the only time Traore played well against Shaw thoughAnd? AWB is another level when it comes to shutting out opps completely. Don't get the comparison :S
So who's top 5 in the leagueSorry I thought we were talking about Wan Bissaka, not about Shaw?
AWB is arguably the best defensive right back in the world, Shaw is not even top 5 in the premier.
Obviously Robertson, beyond that your scraping the barrel. Digne? Some people will probably say Mendy. Shaw is absolutely in the top 5 left backs in the Premier League, I would have him second to Robertson.So who's top 5 in the league
According to Opta ratings it is:So who's top 5 in the league
United currently line up with a player who hasn't scored a premiership goal for a year,That means Shaw isn't really good enough for PL winning side and certainly not ECL winning quality. United need to upgrade left back. If Traore were that good he'd destroy every left-back in the league We'd see it in his stats. His stats say 4 goals and 7 assists in 2073 minutes of PL football. Not a patch on Sancho. You can have Traore or Sancho. Not both.