Shiva87
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True!Well for a start, even Lingard would probably manage to beat the 5 goals in 3 years Januzaj has managed
True!Well for a start, even Lingard would probably manage to beat the 5 goals in 3 years Januzaj has managed
Adnan has a crazy first season and he seems to have peaked there. He hasn't developed in a way that he should have. I was so excited by him - even more than my excitement when Rashford came on to the scene with all those goals in his debut games.Technically he's miles ahead of Lingard, but a combination of bad attitude (reportedly), terrible moves (Sunderland and Dortmund) and injuries (this season and last) have hampered him. He's had some great games for Sociedad but also some meh ones.
He still has a level to go up imo, but if not then he's a useful squad player for a team aiming for tip 4.
His skill and Daniel James pace.pity about him, his talent seemed so natural and effortless, when on on song he was a joy to watch. Unfortunately talent alone is not enough at the very highest level, you need to have that fight and application and he didn't. Still only 25 as well.
+ Marcus Rashford's mentality.His skill and Daniel James pace.
Now that would be some player.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...ws/man-united-adnan-januzaj-transfer-17821456"I felt Adnan should have been a world superstar. I remember speaking to Steve Bruce in the players’ lounge before a game when Ryan took over [against Hull] and I was his assistant. I said, ‘Adnan is as good as him,’ and pointed at Ryan. He said ‘no chance’. After the game Brucey said he was top, top drawer. "That was a disappointment. He’s gone on to have a career, so it’s hard to say. But I think he could have been a superstar if he’d had the mentality of Ryan."
Ah. You forget, don't you.
Memphis probably would have had more chances had Lvg stayed. Adnan assassinated his United career with the dortmund loan.http://www.skysports.com/share/12006171
He reckons LVG didn’t give him and Memphis enough opportunities.
Thoughts ?
I’ve ignored the Pogba talk on the link as it will derail the thread.
Post on reddit said he had one goal and zero assists in 28 games under LVG.http://www.skysports.com/share/12006171
He reckons LVG didn’t give him and Memphis enough opportunities.
Thoughts ?
I’ve ignored the Pogba talk on the link as it will derail the thread.
http://www.skysports.com/share/12006171
He reckons LVG didn’t give him and Memphis enough opportunities.
Thoughts ?
I’ve ignored the Pogba talk on the link as it will derail the thread.
Yes.Post on reddit said he had one goal and zero assists in 28 games under LVG.
His skill and Daniel James pace.
Now that would be some player.
Sorry to quote old posts. Couldn't help but mention that the player you're describing is Marcus Rashford.+ Marcus Rashford's mentality.
Hope he turns back his career around, still not too late.
A bit of revisionism there. It was a good move from his point of view - we were playing soul-less footie under LVG at that time, sucking the life out of our confidence-based flair players (Martial included, despite his goals). At Dortmund, the thought process was that Adnan would play in a more expressive, attack-based system. Of course, his attitude eventually let him down a slippery slope (I remember him showboating for the U21s at that time before he left), but we messed up as a club there, I feel.Memphis probably would have had more chances had Lvg stayed. Adnan assassinated his United career with the dortmund loan.
I find it surprising to see that someone who was deemed to be incredibly gifted five years ago is now being written off as another run of the mill youngster. He was good - perhaps not as promising as Rashford or Martial, but there was definitely a player there. The coaches who've worked with him say his attitude lets him down - they never said he didn't have the talent. He had technique, great ball control, agility and a lot of flair. He would have been a very solid squad player at the very least, if managed properly.He just was never that good. He came at a time when United needed something to be excited about under the Moyes regime and this kids goals vs Sunderland sent the hype levels through the roof.
he was average, just like Memphis. Both needed a step down and improved by that, but they wouldn't get the same game time and patience here. And even after all these years and improvements, they are both probably not good enough to start for a real top club.http://www.skysports.com/share/12006171
He reckons LVG didn’t give him and Memphis enough opportunities.
Thoughts ?
I’ve ignored the Pogba talk on the link as it will derail the thread.
True. Gametime was carefully reserved for better players like Lingard and Pereirahe was average, just like Memphis. Both needed a step down and improved by that, but they wouldn't get the same game time and patience here. And even after all these years and improvements, they are both probably not good enough to start for a real top club.
Exactly. Even if he didn’t hit the heights once promised, he’s yet another player who has come from our academy to have a very successful football career.He’s one of the first people off the bench for a top 4 side in La Liga and typically makes the Belgium squad. There are comments here acting like he is barely playing professionally these days.
they will both leave United and complain about not getting chances.True. Gametime was carefully reserved for better players like Lingard and Pereira
Absolute fantasist who didn't work hard enough. Depay the same.Yes.
Transfermarkt recorded the same thing.
Januzaj21 + 7 appearances1 goal0 assist
Januzaj: "Ah, Louis van Gaal. I really should not be defending myself against him, I think the statistics say it all. Every time I made the difference with an assist or a goal, I was always out of the team for the next match. It was the same with Memphis. He does not speak the truth if he says that he gave us plenty of opportunities, it's as simple as that."
Depay
45 appearances...
Choice of loan plays a part. Sending Adnan to play hoofball at Sunderland was a bad move, but the thought was Moyes who had given him his debut would be willing to give him chances. But our attacking players should be sent to teams who hold on to the ball.Adnan, Rossi and Macheda are the reasons why i dont think we should ever loan out players to Premiership clubs. They have all come back ruined and lost there potential. Its why i never want to see Garner Greenwood Williams Chong or Gomes go out on loan. Rather they developed at Utd in the Utd way
It's not revisionism when the loan deal was questioned by both the fan base and by Lvg at the time. He was at an age where playing time should have been his focus(Lvg couldn't promise this hence the loan). But instead he felt he was too good for midtable teams and he went to a team that was better than his parent team. Him and his agent messed up big time as they thought he was too good for the teams the clubs wanted for him. Even back then with that knowledge I was angry that Lvg didn't block the move. Everyone could see that it was a bad move except Adnan and his people.A bit of revisionism there. It was a good move from his point of view - we were playing soul-less footie under LVG at that time, sucking the life out of our confidence-based flair players (Martial included, despite his goals). At Dortmund, the thought process was that Adnan would play in a more expressive, attack-based system. Of course, his attitude eventually let him down a slippery slope (I remember him showboating for the U21s at that time before he left), but we messed up as a club there, I feel.
David Moyes biggest success and LVG's biggest failure.Yes.
Transfermarkt recorded the same thing.
Januzaj21 + 7 appearances1 goal0 assist
Januzaj: "Ah, Louis van Gaal. I really should not be defending myself against him, I think the statistics say it all. Every time I made the difference with an assist or a goal, I was always out of the team for the next match. It was the same with Memphis. He does not speak the truth if he says that he gave us plenty of opportunities, it's as simple as that."
Depay
45 appearances...