Adnan Januzaj | 2013/14 Performances

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    Personal Information
    Age: 18 (birthday 5 February)
    Country of Birth: Belgium
    Position: Winger/Attacking Midfield
    PL Debut: 14 September 2013 versus Crystal Palace

    Stats
    2013-2014: 15 appearances / 3 goals

    Last topic of discussion was on his national team preference considering http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...fifa-allows-kosovo-play-international-6503688



    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...d-are-playing-a-risky-game-with-adnan-januzaj

    Going forward, hope we don't over utilize him this season. Easy to forget he is still developing when we are short of ideas on pitch.
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    Galactic Incorrigible pest

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    I dont think Moyes wanted to over utilize him. He had to.
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    Summit "do the dead, spread your seed and get out"

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    Over utilize him? I honestly don't get statements like this tbh, as if he is good enough, then he should play. Simple. He will only gain experience by playing and atm he should be one of the first names on the team-sheet.
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    Adebesi Full Member

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    Janujaz would have been a great name for him too, to be fair. It would encapsulate his unpredictable nature and his free spirit on the football field. Like jazz, he does not conform to rules. He is a freestyler.
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    Cina full member

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    It's more so about looking after his fitness/injuries as a youngster though, he does get battered round the park a bit and he does need to 'bulk up'. Just look at what happened to Wilshere after Arsenal over played him as an 18 year old.

    Not sure we are over using Januzaj though, certainly we're still resting him a fair bit.
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    No i get that. I just wish he won't always have to.. or more as a wish the other players step-up.
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    Irwinwastheking Gimpier than Alex and Feeky

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    He doesn't look tired or burned out so there's no problem. He's going to have the summer off too and a full preseason next year so we should see even more improvement.
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    Summit "do the dead, spread your seed and get out"

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    Aye, but some people are more injury prone than others. For your example of Wilshere (I'm sure there are a lot of others too), there are other examples at the other end of the spectrum too.
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    Certainly, but it's still good to exercise caution with him. Arsenal probably had no idea at the time that Wilshere was injury prone, likewise we've no idea if Adnan could be, yet.

    I think if we keep playing him once a week we'll be fine. I'd be worried it it goes beyond that.
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    You mean Zanzujaz?
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    Adebesi Full Member

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    Youd know if you had a kid come through the ranks if he was injury prone, wouldnt you? Youd have some idea?

    I guess people can become injury prone, or higher risk, as they grow, Im sure it isnt a static thing throughout childhood. Still, Im sure the youth team coaches would have some idea....
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    The Taurean looks like a chipmunk

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    We have done well in such regard of taking in young players, and Moyes spoke about it when speaking about playing Januzaj early in the season.
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    To be fair he missed the majority of his 1st year due to injury. But he hasn't had much problems since then.

    But I think Moyes doesn't want to overuse him more due to burnout and Januzaj becoming fatigued. Confident Moyes will manage him well though.
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    Summit "do the dead, spread your seed and get out"

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    Not necessarily mate. When you are young you are still growing, your muscles are forming, tendons joining etc..Problems can occur during this phase which I suppose could impact your career. I get Cina's point about exerting caution in playing him for this reason tbh and I didn't take this into account when answering the OP. I got the sense that the OP meant he didn't want Adnan to play so much in case of burnout, so that was my basis for answering.
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    On one hand, I hope he joins Kosovo so he won't ever get burnt out over the Summer from World Cups/Euros :D

    But then, he'll probably become a better player if he plays on a better international stage.
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    Galactic Incorrigible pest

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    In terms of experience it obviously will.

    It wont improve his technical ability but the more experience a young player gets, especially by being involved in major tournaments is going to benefit him greatly.
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    Irwinwastheking Gimpier than Alex and Feeky

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    Generally I'd say it is. Best is the only player I can think of from a minnow nation that's ever considered among the greats. It's tough from a small country to both get the recognition and surely the experience playing in world cups and regional finals helps players development.
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    And it is always cited as one of the principal reasons Best is not considered even higher in the "legend class" rankings than he is. Perhaps if he had been from a bigger footballing country he would have been thought of alongside the Peles of this world. Who knows.

    Its a slightly different point though, one is about ability and the other is about perception.
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    I'm not sure he'd have been better for it, but perhaps considered better as a result of more recognition and showcasing his skills at international level too.

    You could argue somewhat that modern football offers more access to players playing in foreign leagues that the public is more open to the possibility that a player considered one of the greatest ever might not have to achieve on the international stage. Ronaldo and Messi are indeed from bigger footballing nations and playing in the competitions so receive the extra recognition unlike (probably) Adnan, but they've yet to achieve there and I don't think people hold it against them as much as they might have in the past.
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    Irwinwastheking Gimpier than Alex and Feeky

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    Agreed with all your post. Even if he was English back then think of the international success he and they could have had.
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    The Wilshere example isn't relevant as Januzaj isn't being played all the time. He gets games out, rests, etc. He's started 12 games out of 33 this season. He's not exactly being rushed.
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    Cristiano Ronaldo played shit loads of games from the off and Frank Lampard has played 30+ league games since the age of 19 every season. At the end of the day some players are more injury prone than others, it is a biological fact.

    Januzaj is not even playing that many games. It is a silly opinion piece.
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    The whole burned out thing gets mentioned every time a young player starts getting games but is it just an excuse for players who really were never as good as people thought they were iin the first place? Getting games at a young age didn't hurt Messi or Ronaldo and there are plenty more examples too. Wilshere got injuries but no one can prove that's as a result of getting games at a young age and he's still pretty damn good, if he was left to play in the reserves 'till now he'd probably still have gotten as many injuries and wouldn't be as good. Sterling is playing brilliant stuff at the moment. Fit and healthy 18/19 year olds are more than capable of playing plenty of games, if they weren't playing first team they would be playing reserve games etc. every week anyway; if they're going to get injured it will happen regardless.

    The only thing I would worry about when it comes to youngsters is that they might be affected mentally and get carried away with their early success or crumble under the pressure of playing at the highest level but I see no signs of that happening with Januzaj.
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    If Adnan didn't exist then the pressure on Moyes would have reached boiling point by now.Januzaj is keeping the belief of the fans intact, and he is without doubt the future of Manchester United!
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    This day and age, club football, especially in the big leagues and european championships, has much more quality than international tournaments. International success does get you recognition and personal experience, but you seldom 'develop' your own game in those tournaments.
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    Good post. I suspect that Wilshere would be picking up injuries regardless of his specific game time. It's just one of those things. As Jimmy rightly points out, Ronaldo and Lampard have played an exceptional amount of football from the ages of 18/19 and they've never suffered. I'm actually of the other way of thinking. The more a player plays, the more their body can adjust to the demands of what's required. I've always suspected that our rotation policy has been the reason for our injuries, as players look to make big impacts when they know this may be their only game in a 3 week period. As long as Adnan feels fit then he should be playing as much as physically possible.
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    The wolrd cup is still the number one medal for any footballer to have. Yes European football is huge now and that's where the money is and the year to year prestige is but the ability to lift ones game to do it on the world stage is the mark of a true great.
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    He'll improve more once he gets exposed more to European competition and vs the bigger sides domestically. He's still got that learning curve to come, really.
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    Like I said, recognition. Yes. Experience too. But he wont get to develop his game at international level that much. Club coaching and regular big club football will. Try comparing Best and Kleberson.
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    Ah now, that's a stupid example.

    Experience of games at the highest level all add up and if that's international football then that all helps a players development.
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    Fabregas has played on average like 40 games a season since he was 16/17. Januzaj should be playing every week, as he currently is one of our best players. Simple as that.
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    Has he ever played for Belgium? Could he be called for the World Cup? I'd guess being a first-team player at United makes it logical that they are considering it at the moment, no?
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    He hasn't played for Belgium, and he could be. As far as I'm aware Belgium are courting him but he has no interest in playing for them (or he'd have done so already). Rumours abound it's because he wants to play for Kosovo, as that's where his father is from - and they've just received the go-ahead from FIFA to form their own national team. We could see him declaring very soon.
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    Interesting, didn't know about that. Just read he has a shitload of options to chose from.
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    Good point, but I believe Moyes has managed him well and every player is different. Januzaj can play every week for the reserves because it's lower in quality to the Premier League, but when a player propels forward to the Premier League, the intensity and tempo increase. Youngsters are still growing and this makes them vulnerable, so it would be a risk to play him every week. Moyes has integrated him into the squad in the best possible way IMO - the way he's used him is the best way to minimise the risk of injuries. From what I know, and I'm no football professor level poster, it's during the (early) adolescent years that muscles and bones develop and grow. The muscles/bones are still not at a mature level. He's still 18 (almost 19) and this is a vital period for him. There are also other issues to deal with: diet, training regime, how he does on the field, etc.
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    Agreed.
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    He's been a major plus for us this season, without meaning to point out the obvious. I think it's his attitude that impresses me most. Always looking to influence the game, never goes into his shell when things get tough and always looks to get on the ball and make things happen. Obviously you need a blend in there, but these are the players that will win you football matches. For a player of his age to have such confidence and belief in his own ability takes some doing.

    He has a long way to go at 18 years of age but hopefully he will continue to learn and improve.
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