Have to say I’m pleased to read about that buy-back clause. Our transfer business has been so sloppy over the last few years it’s great to hear about an occasional astute decision. Equally pleased about a similar clause with Depay. I can see both of them turning into top footballers at less dysfunctional clubs than Manchester United 2013-18.
Adnan Januzaj - Real Sociedad player
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
He's still too wet behind the years, with some remains of an adolescent-esque petulance and laziness, but he also looks like he is starting to mature and toughen up a bit. I reckon it will still take him until he is 27 or 28 for him to really come in to his own and perform on a consistent basis, he is clearly a late bloomer.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...delighted-silence-critics-Belgium-winner.html
A failure at Sunderland, Dortmund and United, he finally got his chance to score for the Belgium B-team against the England B-team, in a meaningless match. The critics have been shut up and down
Good goal but surely the ship's sailed? I can't escape the feeling he was yet another casualty of Fergie leaving (despite his good season under Moyes) but I don't see a Pogbaesque return.
Depay has also done as well as Janujaz, if not better, this season.
Should We resign him back aswell? nope.
Should We resign him back aswell? nope.
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By statistic it's not worth a gamble. Ronaldo happens once in a bluemoon. When it happens it happens. For one ronaldo we've had countless of not ronaldo happening.
Ljajic, macheda, januzaj, kleberson, anderson, etc.
Other than romantism aside why spent 4 years developing a player with a 20 percent chances of actually making it. And even in the case of ronaldo he moved away at the young age of 24.
Signing a young player doesnt guarantee their hearts will be with us.
Eh?
Januzaj was given plenty of chances to prove himself in the EPL. He got chances in Germany, too.
Now, because he scores 1 goal....all of a sudden we are talking about buy back clauses? WTF.
He wasn't good enough for us during the 2013-2017 era....and he still isn't good enough for us. And it is extremely rare that a player who plays badly for 4-5 consecutive years, suddenly becomes a title winning talent.
Same goes for Memphis. These buy-back clauses will never be executed, because the players in question have had ample opportunities and failed every single time.
“Eh?” Right back at you.
Januzaj has had a good season in Spain. This isn’t about a single goal. Likewise (only better) with Depay in France.
Now they might well never be good enough for United but if either of them had never played for us before we’d all be very excited if we were linked to either them right now, based on their performances in the season just gone. And chances are they’ll get better and better from here.
Credit to Martinez for picking him. Great performance from Adnan.
I'm chuffed that he's had a good performance last night. Always nice to see our former youngsters (respectful) players doing well.
I think people are jumping the gun a wee bit though. We knew he had the quality, it's the consistently and mentality that was questionable.
Lets see whether he can hold his form for a season.
I think people are jumping the gun a wee bit though. We knew he had the quality, it's the consistently and mentality that was questionable.
Lets see whether he can hold his form for a season.
Well Ljajic didn't join us, and Kleberson arrived as a 26 year old World Cup winner, kind of different to the others.
So what, are you are basically saying you don't see the point in signing or playing young players with high potential, because they may not make it? It's kind of the fabric of this football club..
Young players need game time and a good work ethic to reach their potential, there is also a fair amount of luck required. Rashford for example was lucky he got onto the bench for that Europa league tie due to injures to other players.
He didn’t have that good a season in Spain, he’s at his level.
He's got a serious tan in Spain
That goal the only good thing he did in the last 4 yrs
You’re right it was nothing special whatsoever but far better than his latter time with us / loan at Sunderland.
Man you keep coming on here playing this kid down. He scored a brilliant World Cup goal and all you want to do is criticize him and question why we aren’t happy for an ex academy player. For once eat some humble pie.
Also he had a really good season in Spain. That is the reason he got called up for the Belgium side
Macheda was never close to having anything near as much talent as the rest. Was obvious
All I'm saying unless you can see the future it's not as easy as "if we want it we will made it".
Let's say you're ed and you employ 100 percent youth policy hunting all wonderboys all over the world. It still doesnt guarantee you will win anything. It's not fm.
A few years back there's a thread on potential wonderboyss for the future. 90 percent of the names mentioned years ago ended up as nothing player.
He did OK in Spain, showed some good form but was very patchy. He's very naturally gifted so looks easy on eye when in form.
The questions have always been over his attitude. I do wonder why KDB erased him in training early in the WC.
The questions have always been over his attitude. I do wonder why KDB erased him in training early in the WC.
Really? You think that about Januzaj? What's your definition of "top player"
Good enough to play for Manchester United. I can see it happening doesn’t mean I’m confident it will happen but I’d say he’s in with a shout. Definitely one of the most talented youngsters I’ve seen come through the ranks since I’ve been following youth football at the club.
Of course, but I don't think any United fan is annoyed at us for taking a chance on the likes of Januzaj.. It's about a balance of youth and experience, I'd love to see an exciting young RW at United right now.
He started half the matches for a side that can only manage a 13th placed finish. Think what the prem equivalent of this is.........
Timothy Fosuh-Mensah?
It was his first season
Yeah I agree on that. Rossi is for me still the best though. Maybe its mental with Januzaj and playing for Man Utd, you definitely need the mentality or you're outta there.
doesn't negate the fact. It's not as if he was playing under the pressure of Real Madrid
Carlos Vela managed a much better first season at Sociedad and tbh, I can’t see Januzaj reaching even Vela heights. I do think he’s a much better player now than he was at Sunderland during his loan spell and he could well end up pushing on next season. I still don’t think he’ll ever realise his early promise though and I reckon he could end up being a journeyman with some decent spells here and there.
There’s a difference between putting someone down and telling it like it is. He’s a frustrating player capable of moments like you saw yesterday but those are far too few and far in between for a player of his age, academy upbringing and supposed potential.
He scored a good goal yesterday and that was pretty much it, so if he can keep doing that then at least he’ll have somewhat of an end product to his game.
You won’t have to look far for me congratulating januzaj if he ever turns into this world class player you seem to think he can be. But you have enough performances and data to analyze that must show you how wrong you are about him so far.
Looking at stats at face value rarely tells the full story...
I tried to follow his progress as I was pretty excited about him five years ago, like a lot of us on here. To be honest, I thought he was going to fade into obscurity at first. He wasn't a starter at first, which is understandable as a young player in a new league coming off the back of two poor loan spells, but he wasn't overly impressing in the cameos I saw, just the same old frustrating Januzaj with nice touches but no end product. I almost forgot about him until I saw he was starting games near the end of the season and had just scored in a 5-0 win. He was performance in a 3-0 win against Atletico and started all Sociedad's games as they actually finished the season quite strongly with 4 wins in their last 7.
Tldr, stats don't tell the whole story, he started slowly but how else would he have got called up into a Belgium squad packed with attacking talent (and after 4 years without a cap) if he wasn't in good form the last few months?
Nope you're wrong. Gorge yourself on that pie until you explode.
Obviously you speak truth
Funny enough, wide positions aren't exactly brimming with talent for Belgium. Origi and Mirallas were his rivals for wing positions (in terms of players who were on standby). He basically got into the squad on 6 weeks worth of noteworthy performances. That may not have sufficed if they had more talent out wide, but then again, maybe it would!
Generally criticizing him is one thing but to do it after he had a pretty good game is kind of bitter. Also I am not wrong about him because I believe he will be a world class player and whether he will or wont, time will tell
But it does as you can see the huge difference between first half and second half of his seasons. Clearly that would suggest he was settling in.
What do you think of quaresma?
Its such a small sample size of 4-5 impactful games though. Again I would call that a "bit of form" as opposed to "he has settled". I would prefer the latter as I liked his talent, but he just didn't kick on.
Well let's see. Another season is coming up soon..
Talented on the ball but nothing else. Are you trying to say Januzaj can end up like him? If so then I am not arguing with you. If he doesn't kick on, he can easily be another Quaresma. However, I personally believe he will go on to be a world class player. Whether he will be back at united or not I am not sure.
If you watched the game last night he had a lot of joy against Danny Rose but when Maguire came on in the second half after the goal (when he beat Rose again) he started bullying him and getting close. Januzaj was out of the game then.
Jesus christ. How tough is it to understand an opinion that says he has the talent but whether or not he makes it remains to be seen? It is daft to completely write off a player his age and that won't change no matter how much conviction you use in the way you phrase your posts.