Alejandro Balde

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Because unlike every other club on the planet, we will be unable to sell him for more than or the equivalent to his value if he turns out to be shit.
Yep, and the reason for that is we give everyone a 125K+ wage, so 90% of the teams are not able to afford those players.
 
i'm sorry but 30 million pounds (roughly the reported cost in the newspapers) for this guy seems like a very good deal. we must be really broke if we aren't jumping at that.
 
Barca messed us about enough with Rashford. Loan or nothing, they have already shown they are comfortable loaning out Araujo too.

Yeah, I don't think we can play their game that well. For one, he's not desperate to join like Marcus was. They play those dark arts in the market so they're not as gullible as we are (were?). With Araujo I think they just needed him, as a character, out of the dressing room. That's what it seemed like anyway.

What is interesting though is that the "two other clubs" that are interested in their left back who really wants to stay at Barca, have not been identified. I suspect it's either because there are none, or because they are in the Turkish league or similar.
 
So Barca can take our players on loan with no obligation to buy, but they won't reciprocate? We should not even engage with them, I'm sure if we really wanted to find a support LB for Shaw we can identify someone that albeit may not as skilfull but atleast available for 20+ games of the season!
 
So Barca can take our players on loan with no obligation to buy, but they won't reciprocate? We should not even engage with them, I'm sure if we really wanted to find a support LB for Shaw we can identify someone that albeit may not as skilfull but atleast available for 20+ games of the season!

How Barca negotiated relative to the Rashford situation is irrelevant here. There's a good, affordable left back available in a position we need. The only question is whether this is a good move or not. Regarding injury, he played 47 games last year and was only unavailable for 7. That doesn't sound like a sicknote to me. Maybe there are other good reasons not to bring him in that I'm not aware of, but I honestly don't understand us not making a move here.
 
Of course, but he's not Jones/Hargreaves/Saha kind of injured...
Yeah but if he is getting this injured so young he can very well turn into one of them. Also why are Barca willing to let go of a young Spanish academy talent for so little? If they need to raise money surely in this market they will hold out for more?
 
Yeah but if he is in the injury room half the time then yes it’s a waste.
Yeah but if he is getting this injured so young he can very well turn into one of them. Also why are Barca willing to let go of a young Spanish academy talent for so little? If they need to raise money surely in this market they will hold out for more?

He didn't make the squad because of injuries 10 times out of 76 matchdays in the last 2 league seasons. (Lewis Hall: 14 times)

I'm not sold on him either but I wish people would calm down a bit regarding injuries.
 


These guys would rather die than leave Real/Barca :lol:

They live like Kings so I don't blame them I suppose
 
One of Norwegians biggest experts on la Liga says Balde has a much higher ceiling than Hall. His recommendation was - if he is available for £40 million- it's a no brainer - sign him up.
 


These guys would rather die than leave Real/Barca :lol:

They live like Kings so I don't blame them I suppose

or rather ' I am not moving unless I get the move I want' stance. Rashy is doing the same
 
Sorry if this has already been asked, but did he ever play on the left with Rashford during his time at Barcelona?
 


These guys would rather die than leave Real/Barca :lol:

They live like Kings so I don't blame them I suppose

De Jong was abused by 100k fans relentlessly and Xavi said he can compete for CB for us if he stays but he still stayed. Barca and Real Madrid live in a different world.
 
One of Norwegians biggest experts on la Liga says Balde has a much higher ceiling than Hall. His recommendation was - if he is available for £40 million- it's a no brainer - sign him up.
Of course he does, but his injuries cast a major doubt if he can reach that potential.
 
De Jong was abused by 100k fans relentlessly and Xavi said he can compete for CB for us if he stays but he still stayed. Barca and Real Madrid live in a different world.
Because they were doing him dirty they were trying to wriggle out of paying him almost 30 m of back wages which only came into effect because of him doing them a favour during COVID by renegotiating lower wages contract for few years and readjusting to higher wages for rest of contract length making up for lost wages .

It wasn't love for Barca but more of feck you to them I am not gonna let them bully me out my rightful earnings.
 
One of Norwegians biggest experts on la Liga says Balde has a much higher ceiling than Hall. His recommendation was - if he is available for £40 million- it's a no brainer - sign him up.
Hall is good but nothing special and being built to be slightly better than he is.
 
I think we are waiting to see how it all plays out, my guess is we want Balde on loan and if that doesn't happen we will get Salinas.
 
I think we are waiting to see how it all plays out, my guess is we want Balde on loan and if that doesn't happen we will get Salinas.
Feel Salinas wants Barca so could see pivot to a Robinson or possibly Raum again depending on price
 
I can see us only wanting loan and Barca being hypocritical and not willing to do it despite asking us for one
 
Yeah but if he is in the injury room half the time then yes it’s a waste.
Hes played over 40games last two seasons...problem is more run of games with cancelo there missing games he hasnt got consistency and perfirmances have dipped...thats more the red flag for me.
He can miss 10+ games this season, we still have shaw and other options like dorgu.
2/3years ago for me only nuno mendes and alphonso davies were better left backs...his top game is way above lewis hall.
£35m +£75k a week is peanuts in this market for potentially the best lb in the keague playing 40games...he is the lb o wanted start of summer
 
Barca messed us about enough with Rashford. Loan or nothing, they have already shown they are comfortable loaning out Araujo too.
Popular narrative i dont understand. We need a lb, he is a good one...barca didnt want to buy rashford, moved to other targets....we shouldnt weaken our window out of bitterness.
 
I can see us only wanting loan and Barca being hypocritical and not willing to do it despite asking us for one
It's not hypocritical at all. You can want to loan certain players and buy others. No club has an absolute stance on loan vs buy.

It's all about leverage really. We needed Rashford gone (due to his wages; we couldn't afford to have him just sit out) and Barca was the only buyer he was willing to go to. So they had leverage, and could ask for a loan.

With Balde, we don't really have leverage. Barca can just hang onto him, his wages are low and he still has 2 years on his contract. So we can't dictate terms like they could with Rashford. It's not that complicated.
 
Popular narrative i dont understand. We need a lb, he is a good one...barca didnt want to buy rashford, moved to other targets....we shouldnt weaken our window out of bitterness.
How is he a good one when he won’t even be available for most matches? He is not going to magically fix his injury issues playing in a more intense league.
 
One of Norwegians biggest experts on la Liga says Balde has a much higher ceiling than Hall. His recommendation was - if he is available for £40 million- it's a no brainer - sign him up.
Halls a very good player, but this reminds me of tge Anderson saga....neither are world class...as they are english and in the premiership and fitted our need for those positions theyre being overhyped.
Balde for sure has been a better player than hall already, forms slipped...bit like baleba has already been better than anderson.
Both are players i wanted for over 18months, both potentially world class.
balde and baleba for £100m in this crazy market on reasonable wages is fantastic business.
Personally tielmans is good but getting overly commended since we signed him as one of the best prem cm last 5years...nonsense. lots been better...santos is a really good squad signing that may develop to more.
But baleba and balde are potentially stars here
 
Hes played over 40games last two seasons...problem is more run of games with cancelo there missing games he hasnt got consistency and perfirmances have dipped...thats more the red flag for me.
He can miss 10+ games this season, we still have shaw and other options like dorgu.
2/3years ago for me only nuno mendes and alphonso davies were better left backs...his top game is way above lewis hall.
£35m +£75k a week is peanuts in this market for potentially the best lb in the keague playing 40games...he is the lb o wanted start of summer
So why do Barca wanna get rid of their academy product so cheaply?
 
Glad to see some movement on the LB links. I saw us being linked with a young Segunda LB a few days ago. I would much prefer us to sign someone in that position who has over 100 Barca appearances. I've got nothing against taking a punt on cheaper youngsters, but we need someone who can start ahead of Shaw now rather than in a year.
 
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