Enigma_87
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Cause one is a winger the other full back?Why did they buy Gordon then?
Cause one is a winger the other full back?Why did they buy Gordon then?
I decided to believe in this.We're signing both!
Good summary of the situation.Balde has had some issues with injury, but I think the reality is that he hasn’t really progressed in the last couple of seasons. When he broke out 3–4 years ago, he was fast, athletic and a good ball carrier, but he couldn’t defend, was a poor crosser/passer of the ball, and struggled with his end product. Fast-forward to now, and he’s pretty much in the same place.
IIRC, Gayà/Balde were expected to be the first-choice LBs for Spain at Euro 2024, but both picked up injuries in the run-up to the the tournament. For the World Cup, I don’t even think Balde was a serious consideration for the squad.
He still has some potential but he has massively stagnated. He’s behind a good, but defensively and athletically limited Cancelo. Flick also seems to have opted for makeshift LB’s over balde too at times, like Gerard. Not sure he’d make much of a difference for Utd currently, which is probably why there’s a lot of dithering or more interest in a loan. Barca probably want to replace Balde, but may not have the money to do so unless they get a decent fee. If they can’t get that, given he’s on a low salary and an academy product, there is probably little incentive to pursue a loan move for him from their perspective.
Balde has had some issues with injury, but I think the reality is that he hasn’t really progressed in the last couple of seasons. When he broke out 3–4 years ago, he was fast, athletic and a good ball carrier, but he couldn’t defend, was a poor crosser/passer of the ball, and struggled with his end product. Fast-forward to now, and he’s pretty much in the same place.
IIRC, Gayà/Balde were expected to be the first-choice LBs for Spain at Euro 2024, but both picked up injuries in the run-up to the the tournament. For the World Cup, I don’t even think Balde was a serious consideration for the squad.
He still has some potential but he has massively stagnated. He’s behind a good, but defensively and athletically limited Cancelo. Flick also seems to have opted for makeshift LB’s over balde too at times, like Gerard. Not sure he’d make much of a difference for Utd currently, which is probably why there’s a lot of dithering or more interest in a loan. Barca probably want to replace Balde, but may not have the money to do so unless they get a decent fee. If they can’t get that, given he’s on a low salary and an academy product, there is probably little incentive to pursue a loan move for him from their perspective.
What has that got to do with them supposedly having no money?Cause one is a winger the other full back?
Their financials are no secret. They also bought Rodri and badly need a striker. Balde is expandable to raise funds.What has that got to do with them supposedly having no money?
We’ll still sign someone. Who it is, I’m not sure.Never sign a player who has no desire to move. Shaw and Mazraoui it is.
Yeah that's very trueTo be fair, no one serious put a direct link to us, it seemed more of Balde's camp pushing the link.
They were quoting more for seys than barca apparently were for Balde.Get the Club Brugge LB who’s rated very highly and not so expensive to Balde
Thought he was going to Atletico?They were quoting more for seys than barca apparently were for Balde.
Looks like Salinas comes in with Shaw remaining starting lb for a while
I expect Salinas to go to Atlético.They were quoting more for seys than barca apparently were for Balde.
Looks like Salinas comes in with Shaw remaining starting lb for a while
Suck it Ron!They were quoting more for seys than barca apparently were for Balde.
Looks like Salinas comes in with Shaw remaining starting lb for a while
Well Seys is not available and as you say his price is higher than Balde anyway. Salinas is supposedly headed to Atletico and all reports have mentioned he prefers to stay in Spain so we might have missed the boat there too. I would hope we have some other options that have not been mentioned in the media yet but I am slowly coming to the conclusion that with no serious bids having been received for him we are going to end up keeping Amass and using him to rotate with Shaw for the coming season.They were quoting more for seys than barca apparently were for Balde.
Looks like Salinas comes in with Shaw remaining starting lb for a while
Not sure you can miss a boat for a player if they had no intention of joiningWell Seys is not available and as you say his price is higher than Balde anyway. Salinas is supposedly headed to Atletico and all reports have mentioned he prefers to stay in Spain so we might have missed the boat there too. I would hope we have some other options that have not been mentioned in the media yet but I am slowly coming to the conclusion that with no serious bids having been received for him we are going to end up keeping Amass and using him to rotate with Shaw for the coming season.
Apparently off to AthleticoSuck it Ron!
Well I think there might have been an opportunity if we had moved early in the window rather than sit there pining for Lewis Hall to become available for 10 quid and a packet of monster munch. In this case we waited until close to the deadline and now Salinas has options in Spain that were not there in July and so he is going to prioritize them. I don't go overboard with criticizing our transfer strategy but in this case we have been negligent, Hall was clearly not happening both because Newcastle don't want to sell and because we clearly don't want to spend the money required to get him and so we should have been aggressively pursuing alternatives several weeks ago and we might have addressed this already.Not sure you can miss a boat for a player if they had no intention of joining
We've been linked to Salinas for a long time and originally the story was he wanted to go to Barca. I imagine the only reason he's not going the is because they need to flog Blade first.Well I think there might have been an opportunity if we had moved early in the window rather than sit there pining for Lewis Hall to become available for 10 quid and a packet of monster munch. In this case we waited until close to the deadline and now Salinas has options in Spain that were not there in July and so he is going to prioritize them. I don't go overboard with criticizing our transfer strategy but in this case we have been negligent, Hall was clearly not happening both because Newcastle don't want to sell and because we clearly don't want to spend the money required to get him and so we should have been aggressively pursuing alternatives several weeks ago and we might have addressed this already.
Maz is nowhere near good enough.Never sign a player who has no desire to move. Shaw and Mazraoui it is.
Agreed, but we can't afford Hall or Balde.Maz is nowhere near good enough.
He's miles off the level needed even as a squad player. Every break dies when it falls at his feet.
I think his future may be as a centre back. He's a decent squad player.Maz is nowhere near good enough.
He's miles off the level needed even as a squad player. Every break dies when it falls at his feet.
Isnt balde £38m and prob £80k a week?Agreed, but we can't afford Hall or Balde.