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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
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- Goals
- 11
- Assists
- 10
- Yellow cards
- 5
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Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) discuss United's fantastic win away against Athletic Club in the semi-final of the Europa League.
They also pick out the positives of United's 4-3 loss away at Brentford, and Nik reviews a day out at Old Trafford watching Manchester United Women qualify for the Champions League.
that's from the 06/07 season! not 05/06 which is completely ignoring what people have said.
Also I don't think Garnacho has what Ronaldo had and I'm very on the fence as to whether we should sell him in the summer. I think the point to be made is that players mature at different speeds, Ronaldo's performance levels in 06-07 compared to the previous season were on a completely different level.
There's Ronaldo in 05/06. There's no comparison and even if he was as bad as you say having a bad game was the exception not the norm, that's why he made premier league team of the season and was so high in Balon D'or rankings.
Garnacho is total garbage unless he's playing relegation fodder or 2nd division teams in the cup. His statistics are genuinely on the level of a championship player. You can compare him with Daniel James when he played for us and there's barely a difference in their output.
Garnacho wouldn't stand out in League 1 in England. We need to invest in quick, tricky, 1v1 players asap.
Curious as to what the point of this thread is these days? 100+ pages basically calling him garbage, or that you hate him, that you think he thinks he’s Ronaldo, that he makes poor decisions, that he can’t dribble, he can’t pass, and that it’s time to sell. Blah blah blah repeat repeat repeat. It seems everyone has run out of anything new to say. Guess that means it’s time to just ignore this thread all together but you all have fun. Maybe we can get to 300 pages saying the same things over and over.
The clue is in the title.
When he has good performances good things are said. It just doesn't happen very often.
Ronaldo 05/06 was very frustrating. Remember lots of calls for him to be sold !
I don't remember hoping he was sold. He could be selfish and frustrating, but he balanced it out with genuine moments of brilliance. It was obvious he had bags of potential.
Gernacho exhibits all the worst traits without any of the good to even it out.
If we can get a combined 40m for Onana and Casemiro then whoever is negotiating for us deserves a statue.
That's a great video. The narrative about Ronaldo being lightweight and a diver ignores the fact that a) he was incredibly strong and b) teams tried to absolutely kick him off the park and were given leeway by many referees.
There is zero comparison between him and Ronaldo, however he's 20 years old. Look at Elanga 2 years ago, deemed not good enough sold for peanuts and now ripping it up at the top level. I don't think Garnacho is a world beater but he can definitely be a good player for us.
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Funny because I always knew he was a worldie. I just didn't realise how far he was going to smash through the World-Class ceiling.
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Better than someone who supports Ipswich of all teams. Whats their fan forum like, 2-3 Ed Sheeran fans sitting round talking about what game you get relegated in? Must be awesome.
Yes this! The only reason people keep comparing him to Ronaldo is because they remember how frustrating he was before the season we won the league, but people forget how genuinely good Ronaldo was. He glided past players through skill and pace.
Garnacho is not that quick, is weak on the ball and has little dribbling ability. He works hard, that's it. Maybe he has a decent first touch but that's a given at this level.
I'd usually want to give him another season to sort himself out, but with pure profit thing he get from selling, I think we should sell him.
Ah you know how the overreactions can go like. At the time, seemed like a genuinely tough period to be a United fan
Was not comparing the two players but just pointing out similarly frustrated fans existed.
Talent was clear but like you said, my god, the level he came into. 06/07 Ronaldo, it just seemed everything had just clicked and fallen into place. Never thought he’d surpass Figo.
Anyway, back to Garnacho. Think selling him now would be the wrong move, most of the tools are there with him. Alongside adjusting to new demands under Amorim, we seem to forget he’s still 20. His attitude also seems good, there’s plenty to like about the boy.
There is definitely zero comparison between them. Ronaldo was already world class by his third season and Fergie sold Van Nistelroy to use Ronaldo as his main player.Ah you know how the overreactions can go like. At the time, seemed like a genuinely tough period to be a United fan
Was not comparing the two players but just pointing out similarly frustrated fans existed.
Talent was clear but like you said, my god, the level he came into. 06/07 Ronaldo, it just seemed everything had just clicked and fallen into place. Never thought he’d surpass Figo.
Anyway, back to Garnacho. Think selling him now would be the wrong move, most of the tools are there with him. Alongside adjusting to new demands under Amorim, we seem to forget he’s still 20. His attitude also seems good, there’s plenty to like about the boy.
In 05/06 he was part of the best EPL XI and in 06/07 season he was arguably the best player in the world. Even before that there were promising sings. In 04/05 he scored twice against Arsenal invincibles side and he was excellent at Euros as a 19 year old.
Garnacho's second season was good and promising but this season he seems to be stagnating. His decision making is atrocious and his finishing is poor. As an academy player I want him to do good but it's been very frustrating to watch him this season along with Holjund.
This part confuses me. I felt he looked rapid in his first season cameos, as well as last season - but has really struggled with his pace this season
Get fecked
Newcastle 4:1 Man Utd
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Inconsistent as a young player as expected but we lose a huge amount of threat without him
Nice finish today
Nice finish today
Great finish. Happy he scored. I guess we were saving him for the Europa game by taking him off.
Took the goal well, it was an exceptional finish. Didn't really do anything else of note, but he's not alone in that.
In an ideal world that finish gives him some confidence and sees an improvement in his usually wayward shooting.
In an ideal world that finish gives him some confidence and sees an improvement in his usually wayward shooting.
Good goal. Shame about Amorim taking him off but he's probably surely starting the game on Thursday.
Garnacho is our most dangerous player , no idea why he replaced him so early .
Got the goal with a good finish. Otherwise it felt like he wasn't anywhere near as involved as he normally is.
Looked a bit frosty between him and the manager when he came off.
He gets bullied by physical defenders, but he is still growing I guess
Debatable, Bruno is still clearly No.1 for me. Assume he was taken off for Thursday. As for today took his goal well but needs to bulk up a bit or something because if anyone gets anywhere near his vicinity he's on his arse.
Hopefully it was to save him for Thursday.
He needed that goal after the long barren spell he’s been going through.
I’ve felt his recent poor decision making, poor finishing and greedy play was all down to trying too hard and a lack of maturity.
Shame he didn’t get his 2nd just before half time.
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Garnacho was our best player today. That finish was good and I hope he'll gain more confidence after scoring. It wasn't a brilliant performance from anyone but I felt that Garnacho slightly improved from his poor performances that he had this season.
That match against Lyon on thursday is the highlight of the season and Garnacho will need to step up, just like all of our attackers.
That match against Lyon on thursday is the highlight of the season and Garnacho will need to step up, just like all of our attackers.
Didn’t see the first half, but he has one ability that stands out, and that is ability to get into very good positions. That is arguably one of the most difficult things to learn. Plenty of great players/ wide forwards that weren’t quicker or even as quick as Garnacho. He’s wasteful, but that’s also because he gets into those positions. If he becomes a better finisher, he is a completely different player for any team.
Well, he scored a goal, I guess….
Good finish. Has needed that goal
Can he play up top? I know he can't hold the ball up but maybe he could run the channels and use his nous for being in the right place to our advantage.
He and Bruno are the only attackers of any quality.
Delicate finish, can't remember him ever scoring that type of goal before...just passed it into the bottom corner.
+1 for his G/A
+1 for his G/A
I was pleasantly surprised he scored, it was a composed finish. If he can show that composure more often he'll be actually dangerous.