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Rossa said:
Yeah, I'm not sure who I can compare him to. The Nani comparisons are completely off the mark - very different players both stylistically and athletically.

What Garnacho brings is his uncanny ability to be in the right place and time his runs, create space for himself without being blistering - he's still quite fast, faster than Mahrez ever was for instance - nor is he a playmaker, so he's not your typical young winger, but nor is he a 10.

He has good technique, but it's erratic. Just as he has good finishing, but it's erratic.

I still have hope for him, and as I said, if he had capitalised on his chances instead of some erratic finishing and sometimes poor decision making, then we would be having a different discussion.
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I would argue technique is one of his weaknesses.
 
Can we kill the pure fabrication that he has 'pace'? Pace by a wingers standard, not a chance. Never once see him dust anybody and Lewis Dunk was faster than him in a footrace this season. As soon as he gets the ball on a break you see the opposition closing him down in no time, then one brush and he's on his arse. He's got a lot of qualities but none of them are pace.
 
Hammondo said:
I would argue technique is one of his weaknesses.
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As is finishing. Can we handwave everything our other players are demonstrably not very good at as them being good but erratic? We'd have an amazing team on paper if so.
 
The Hilton said:
As is finishing. Can we handwave everything our other players are demonstrably not very good at as them being good but erratic? We'd have an amazing team on paper if so.
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Erratic would suggest he does more good shots than he does, he does nearly completely crap shots, with a rare good shot. Same could be said about me playing football :P

Not that I dislike him, or anything, I am happy to keep him, give him time support, I just get annoying by the hype some give him which is obviously far from true.
 
klayton88 said:
Can we kill the pure fabrication that he has 'pace'? Pace by a wingers standard, not a chance. Never once see him dust anybody and Lewis Dunk was faster than him in a footrace this season. As soon as he gets the ball on a break you see the opposition closing him down in no time, then one brush and he's on his arse. He's got a lot of qualities but none of them are pace.
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Good acceleration. Fantastic timing and movement. Decent top pace.

Awful finishing.
 
Hammondo said:
Erratic would suggest he does more good shots than he does, he does nearly completely crap shots, with a rare good shot. Same could be said about me playing football :P

Not that I dislike him, or anything, I am happy to keep him, give him time support, I just get annoying by the hype some give him which is obviously far from true.
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I think this highlights the problem.

You deem your perception of Garnacho right and everyone else's wrong so you get annoyed by anyone that doesn't see your point of view.

Some of us fans try find the positives as much as possible rather than purely focusing on the negatives all the time.

It's an element of support Seen even when looking after ones child coincidentally similar to raising up Garnacho.

Maybe when your child is doing GCSE's you focus on the subjects your child is good at than beating him up for the one's he is shit at because not every child is going to be good at the same subject, some children are going to do better at better schools or even under better teachers or even at better times.

The fact is even if he is shit, Garnacho is deemed a 60 million prospect in this world, that is by people who know more about football than me and you. He is clearly not as shit as people pretend him out to be who concentrate only on his negatives like his shots hitting people's faces.

Everytime he has a good game, or more likely does something that leads to an important goal or and assist -

This thread is extremely quiet. You might see some fans say " I thought he had a better game than usual today" and no one analyses his better performances all that much.

However when he has a bad game which is more so where he lacks the finishing product rather than being unable to impose himself on the game - this thread becomes the biggest thread in the whole forum with people like you who avoid him most of the time he does well decide to come back here every time he couldn't make his opportunities count.

I mean the guy is 20 years old. Is a child who is doing exams at the same age as the rest of the class bad because he decided to study earlier? No because he is ultimately still 20. The fact he has more experience as a 20 year old doesn't make him a 39 year old player.

Everyone has a value. Even your husband/wife would analyse you and wonder if its worth being with you or leaving you to be with someone else by analysing your value for them and what you give him or her.

It's the same with Garnacho or any player in the world, give us the money that correlates with our value of him and you can have him. For some reason some of our fanbase dont realise that all this over analysis and trying to constantly deem him of not good quality, as overrated, as dumb & wasteful is putting the value of Garnacho down because they think these words can't be heard because they are sitting behind a computer.

It's why United are one of the worst selling clubs in the world, we always sell the player as some beaten piece of meat at the butchers than a fresh tasty one.

That's directly linked to its so called supporters.
 
Quagmaguire said:
I think this highlights the problem.

You deem your perception of Garnacho right and everyone else's wrong so you get annoyed by anyone that doesn't see your point of view.

Some of us fans try find the positives as much as possible rather than purely focusing on the negatives all the time.

It's an element of support Seen even when looking after ones child coincidentally similar to raising up Garnacho.

Maybe when your child is doing GCSE's you focus on the subjects your child is good at than beating him up for the one's he is shit at because not every child is going to be good at the same subject, some children are going to do better at better schools or even under better teachers or even at better times.

The fact is even if he is shit, Garnacho is deemed a 60 million prospect in this world, that is by people who know more about football than me and you. He is clearly not as shit as people pretend him out to be who concentrate only on his negatives like his shots hitting people's faces.

Everytime he has a good game, or more likely does something that leads to an important goal or and assist -

This thread is extremely quiet. You might see some fans say " I thought he had a better game than usual today" and no one analyses his better performances all that much.

However when he has a bad game which is more so where he lacks the finishing product rather than being unable to impose himself on the game - this thread becomes the biggest thread in the whole forum with people like you who avoid him most of the time he does well decide to come back here every time he couldn't make his opportunities count.

I mean the guy is 20 years old. Is a child who is doing exams at the same age as the rest of the class bad because he decided to study earlier? No because he is ultimately still 20. The fact he has more experience as a 20 year old doesn't make him a 39 year old player.

Everyone has a value. Even your husband/wife would analyse you and wonder if its worth being with you or leaving you to be with someone else by analysing your value for them and what you give him or her.

It's the same with Garnacho or any player in the world, give us the money that correlates with our value of him and you can have him. For some reason some of our fanbase dont realise that all this over analysis and trying to constantly deem him of not good quality, as overrated, as dumb & wasteful is putting the value of Garnacho down because they think these words can't be heard because they are sitting behind a computer.

It's why United are one of the worst selling clubs in the world, we always sell the player as some beaten piece of meat at the butchers than a fresh tasty one.

That's directly linked to its so called supporters.
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What in the world
 
I am most apprehensive about the next matches in the Europa league because of Garnacho. His tenacity in getting good positions is great, but his low IQ decision making and low shot conversion is so poor. We see this over and over again.
 
If Garnacho wants to find his shooting boots for any game all season, this is the freaking one! Come on son.
 
Berbasbullet said:
If Garnacho wants to find his shooting boots for any game all season, this is the freaking one! Come on son.
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Yeah I don't think any other one thing could have a bigger impact this season than Garnacho taking his chances.

Not really his fault, he's 20, but just the chances he hasn't taken. What a difference it would make if he had put most of them away.
 
Yamal is 17 and showed age is no obstacle to good decision making. Let's hope Garnacho gets his head up tonight and cuts out the glory boy stuff.
 
Olecurls99 said:
Yamal is 17 and showed age is no obstacle to good decision making. Let's hope Garnacho gets his head up tonight and cuts out the glory boy stuff.
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Comparing anyone to yamal is so pointless. Might as well compare them to fecking Pele. Everyone develops at different speeds and he has lots of decent attributes. He is still young (amad was playing badly for rangers at his age and he's developed well) and has time on his side. He shouldn't be starting every game for us but he is because no one else has done a better job or been capable of staying as consistently fit.
 
Garnacho has to remember to lean over the ball when he's at point blank range. No more NFL field goal attempts!
 
Once again I'm baffled by some post that claim he was excellent. How? He was ok in the first half but didn't really do anything of note really. Yes he works hard but once again it's clear his technique is not good enough and his decisions are questionable at best. I'm glad Amad is back he is a level above Garnacho.
 
Hammondo said:
In what sense a threat though? I did miss parts of the game but I don't remember a good chance for him.
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In constantly running at their defence, getting in behind at times and I’m surprised we didn’t actually get another penalty as he was pretty close to making it 4-0 when he was shoved. Great workrate as usual as well.
 
Hammondo said:
In what sense a threat though? I did miss parts of the game but I don't remember a good chance for him.
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Had a goal ruled out and also should have got a pen when he was fouled second half when he was about to score
 
Hammondo said:
In what sense a threat though? I did miss parts of the game but I don't remember a good chance for him.
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Marginal offside goal, could've had a pen or tap in and got neither, and then had a decent chance and decent shot from a Luke Shaw cut back that was saved well. Good tenacity throughout and a key role in the penalty. Was a reliable out ball for us in the first half before we started really dominating the game against 10 men. He definitely was a positive today and had a big impact IMO.
 
bosnian_red said:
Marginal offside goal, could've had a pen or tap in and got neither, and then had a decent chance and decent shot from a Luke Shaw cut back that was saved well. Good tenacity throughout and a key role in the penalty. Was a reliable out ball for us in the first half before we started really dominating the game against 10 men. He definitely was a positive today and had a big impact IMO.
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Can’t really argue with any of that. His persistence and enthusiasm are some of his best traits, for me.
 
Needs to get stronger and at least stumble on some shooting power by next season
 
Thought he was really good in this one. I'm honestly still a bit surprised Amorim hasn't tried him at wingback. Feel like it would highlight his best qualities - movement off the ball, carrying over long distances, providing an outlet on transition - while hiding some of his weaknesses - he's lacking a bit of guile and technical quality to play in smaller spaces, he's great at carrying in transition but not so great at weaving his way through a settled defence. Plus, he's got great work rate so I'm positive he wouldn't be an issue defensively. Strange that Amad, who seems a more natural #10, has played there but Garnacho hasn't.

Only potential downside is that he seems to have an uncanny ability to create goalscoring chances with his movement. Getting him away from goal into a wingback position probably limits that a hit. Still feel like him RWB with Amad ahead of him could be great with them interchanging positions.
 
SomeRandomPerson said:
Thought he was really good in this one. I'm honestly still a bit surprised Amorim hasn't tried him at wingback. Feel like it would highlight his best qualities - movement off the ball, carrying over long distances, providing an outlet on transition - while hiding some of his weaknesses - he's lacking a bit of guile and technical quality to play in smaller spaces, he's great at carrying in transition but not so great at weaving his way through a settled defence. Plus, he's got great work rate so I'm positive he wouldn't be an issue defensively. Strange that Amad, who seems a more natural #10, has played there but Garnacho hasn't.

Only potential downside is that he seems to have an uncanny ability to create goalscoring chances with his movement. Getting him away from goal into a wingback position probably limits that a hit. Still feel like him RWB with Amad ahead of him could be great with them interchanging positions.
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I expect it’s because he doesn’t have any other forwards that can carry the ball with any kind of pace.
 
Thought he was very good last night, made things happen and wasn't as wasteful
 
SomeRandomPerson said:
Thought he was really good in this one. I'm honestly still a bit surprised Amorim hasn't tried him at wingback. Feel like it would highlight his best qualities - movement off the ball, carrying over long distances, providing an outlet on transition - while hiding some of his weaknesses - he's lacking a bit of guile and technical quality to play in smaller spaces, he's great at carrying in transition but not so great at weaving his way through a settled defence. Plus, he's got great work rate so I'm positive he wouldn't be an issue defensively. Strange that Amad, who seems a more natural #10, has played there but Garnacho hasn't.

Only potential downside is that he seems to have an uncanny ability to create goalscoring chances with his movement. Getting him away from goal into a wingback position probably limits that a hit. Still feel like him RWB with Amad ahead of him could be great with them interchanging positions.
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Considering he is only 20, if he can get a bit fat like Shaw I think Garnacho could genuinely be one of the best wingbacks in the world.

Even if we do sell him, I'd rather we only do it after trying him at wingback first.

It's something I've wanted to see for a long time, Amorim has tried Amad & Antony at wingback in multiple games but Garnacho only played in a single second half tactic.

It made me question if Amorim only prefered attacking wingbacks on the right but it's not like Garnacho is incapable on the right side either.

Garnacho's ability to make the well timed run in behind would be a nightmare for the opposition. He now also has the work rate.

I think biggest benefit would be because as a wingback he doesn't have to find the overlapping pass - he would be the widest man always trying to make a cross more so than a defence splitting pass.

Please Amorim, only sell him after you experiment with this during pre-season. Maybe it's a false hope because I've heard Amorim is a very strict guy who would sell his parents if they didn't fit the system.
 
I hope that watching someone as obviously talented as Nico Williams struggle maybe adds a little perspective to this discussion from now on. Being a young attacking midfielder is a pretty unforgiving role.
 
Dion said:
I hope that watching someone as obviously talented as Nico Williams struggle maybe adds a little perspective to this discussion from now on. Being a young attacking midfielder is a pretty unforgiving role.
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Nico Williams has been massively overrated though.
 
Lost the ball a lot. I'm loving his attitude recently and he's trying to improve his game by constantly moving once he gets the ball but the possession battle would really be helped if a Cunha or Cherki was there to help and it will be helped once Amad is starting again.
 
Posh Red said:
Yeah I’m not sure how good this kid really is. Wasn’t anything special in the United game. Amad showed more in his ten minutes, to be honest.
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Do you think that had anything to do with Amad coming on at the end of the game against a team that were mentally deflated and spent the last hour playing with 10 men?
 
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