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2024-25 Performances


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5.5 Season Average Rating
Appearances
58
Goals
11
Assists
10
Yellow cards
5
Nico Williams has been massively overrated though.
I've watched him 10-15 times this season, he's absolutely excellent. There's a reason so many teams are after him. But he's not immune to having bad games.
 
I think this highlights the problem.

You deem your perception of Garnacho right and everyone else's wrong so you get annoyed by anyone that doesn't see your point of view.

Some of us fans try find the positives as much as possible rather than purely focusing on the negatives all the time.

It's an element of support Seen even when looking after ones child coincidentally similar to raising up Garnacho.

Maybe when your child is doing GCSE's you focus on the subjects your child is good at than beating him up for the one's he is shit at because not every child is going to be good at the same subject, some children are going to do better at better schools or even under better teachers or even at better times.

The fact is even if he is shit, Garnacho is deemed a 60 million prospect in this world, that is by people who know more about football than me and you. He is clearly not as shit as people pretend him out to be who concentrate only on his negatives like his shots hitting people's faces.

Everytime he has a good game, or more likely does something that leads to an important goal or and assist -

This thread is extremely quiet. You might see some fans say " I thought he had a better game than usual today" and no one analyses his better performances all that much.

However when he has a bad game which is more so where he lacks the finishing product rather than being unable to impose himself on the game - this thread becomes the biggest thread in the whole forum with people like you who avoid him most of the time he does well decide to come back here every time he couldn't make his opportunities count.

I mean the guy is 20 years old. Is a child who is doing exams at the same age as the rest of the class bad because he decided to study earlier? No because he is ultimately still 20. The fact he has more experience as a 20 year old doesn't make him a 39 year old player.

Everyone has a value. Even your husband/wife would analyse you and wonder if its worth being with you or leaving you to be with someone else by analysing your value for them and what you give him or her.

It's the same with Garnacho or any player in the world, give us the money that correlates with our value of him and you can have him. For some reason some of our fanbase dont realise that all this over analysis and trying to constantly deem him of not good quality, as overrated, as dumb & wasteful is putting the value of Garnacho down because they think these words can't be heard because they are sitting behind a computer.

It's why United are one of the worst selling clubs in the world, we always sell the player as some beaten piece of meat at the butchers than a fresh tasty one.

That's directly linked to its so called supporters.
What the feck was that? A rambling post with mentions of children, parents, wives…all to simply point out that some are a bit harsh on Garnacho…
 
Considering he is only 20, if he can get a bit fat like Shaw I think Garnacho could genuinely be one of the best wingbacks in the world.

Even if we do sell him, I'd rather we only do it after trying him at wingback first.

It's something I've wanted to see for a long time, Amorim has tried Amad & Antony at wingback in multiple games but Garnacho only played in a single second half tactic.

It made me question if Amorim only prefered attacking wingbacks on the right but it's not like Garnacho is incapable on the right side either.

Garnacho's ability to make the well timed run in behind would be a nightmare for the opposition. He now also has the work rate.

I think biggest benefit would be because as a wingback he doesn't have to find the overlapping pass - he would be the widest man always trying to make a cross more so than a defence splitting pass.

Please Amorim, only sell him after you experiment with this during pre-season. Maybe it's a false hope because I've heard Amorim is a very strict guy who would sell his parents if they didn't fit the system.
You have a troubling parental fixation.
 
Do you think that had anything to do with Amad coming on at the end of the game against a team that were mentally deflated and spent the last hour playing with 10 men?
No idea. But from what I’ve seen of Amad generally he looks a lot better than this guy, whenever I have seen him.
 
I hope that watching someone as obviously talented as Nico Williams struggle maybe adds a little perspective to this discussion from now on. Being a young attacking midfielder is a pretty unforgiving role.
Weird timing. Garnacho seemed much more dangerous despite his obvious flaws
 
His all round footballing IQ is woeful. His dribbling is painful, he nevers tries to feint or drop his shoulder, he is so predictable.

His passing goes from a lovely one across the face of goal that leads to a decent opportunity, to not knowing how much weight to put on a 6 yard pace thus leading to a counter attack.

He's just so frustrating. You can't learn creativity, vision, iq etc.
 
A lot of people on here are all about giving up on our players and all want us to continuously sign new players and then rubbish and dump them.
According to so many people on here the following players were all rubbish.
Elanga, Scott, Anthony,Garner and I could mention so many more.
Garnacho is a very talented footballer and will only get better as he grows older so just let’s give him a chance.
 
So tired of us giving up on our youngsters so flippantly. My kingdom for James Garner as an option in our midfield right now.
I knew we'd regret letting JG go. As for this issue: Its crazy. We have witnessed a league in which within 3 years, the likes of Watkins and Mateta went from average to consistent attackers. All above age 25. Yet neither are in Garnacho's talent bracket.
 
I knew we'd regret letting JG go. As for this issue: Its crazy. We have witnessed a league in which within 3 years, the likes of Watkins and Mateta went from average to consistent attackers. All above age 25. Yet neither are in Garnacho's talent bracket.
Imagine that. Having a few years to adapt to the best and arguably hardest football league in the world being beneficial.
 
His all round footballing IQ is woeful. His dribbling is painful, he nevers tries to feint or drop his shoulder, he is so predictable.

His passing goes from a lovely one across the face of goal that leads to a decent opportunity, to not knowing how much weight to put on a 6 yard pace thus leading to a counter attack.

He's just so frustrating. You can't learn creativity, vision, iq etc.

This is the most lowest IQ thing ever.

If you can't learn and grow IQ then everyone would be born and forever be dumb.

It's simply not true.

Garnacho isn't an attacking midfielder that can play defence splitting passes - but he is more in the mould to make crosses like how Valencia couldn't play through balls like Modric either.

Whether Amorim wants that is one question, but I still don't understand why a top league club is willing to spend 60 million on him and then our fans are talking about like we should grab and get out whatever we can get for him.

I know it's just a forum but my lord would I hate to be with some of these fans constantly complaining about life
 
Brentford 4:3 Man Utd New
He’s ending the season quite well. Hopefully he keeps it up in the Europa
 
He’s ending the season quite well. Hopefully he keeps it up in the Europa
Agreed.

I think the way fergie would give Ronaldo Christmas time off early in his career is something that would have benefited garnacho rather than us relying so heavily on him.
 
Really promising signs of greater maturity in his game over the last 6 weeks, when delivering the ball he is picking out areas consistently now. Is always a handful with his movement and willingness to make things happen but with more composure in his play his final product will improve.

With an extra yard of pace and strength he would be very difficult to contain.
 
21 goals/assists for the season now (11 goals/10 assists) as a 20 year old playing for 15th place United with no reliable scorer to play off of (and he himself missing loads of sitters this season. Oh, and under 3 different managers and dramatic change of system.

He's a quality talent, and would be a huge mistake to sell him.
 
I was frustrated with a lot of his general play and head down running into crowds but when you come away with an assist, a goal and creating a couple of other decent chances, you have had a good game.
 
Has beaten last year’s goals and assists totals which were an improvement on the previous year. Just 20 years old.

If he’s going to be sold in the summer then the buyer is paying for an inconsistent yet very promising player: They better fecking give us 80 million for that level of promise.
 
When he was to take that shot I said 'No' and he actually scored :lol: guess that was coming after all shots that went wide or were blocked over last months. Thought he'll start vs Bilbao at OT but 90 minutes today is bit surprising.
 
21 goals/assists for the season now (11 goals/10 assists) as a 20 year old playing for 15th place United with no reliable scorer to play off of (and he himself missing loads of sitters this season. Oh, and under 3 different managers and dramatic change of system.

He's a quality talent, and would be a huge mistake to sell him.

Agreed.
 
21 goals/assists for the season now (11 goals/10 assists) as a 20 year old playing for 15th place United with no reliable scorer to play off of (and he himself missing loads of sitters this season. Oh, and under 3 different managers and dramatic change of system.

He's a quality talent, and would be a huge mistake to sell him.

Yeah, agreed.
 
He was very good today against Brentford. Garnacho was our MOTM and what a banger he scored! He also provided an assist to Mount. I really liked how he ran on the pitch and how he tried to press.

He also has very good stats for a very poor United side 21 G/A. I was wrong about Garnacho lacking any potential to be a great player. He just needs to improve his decision making and finishing.
 
I do think he’s maybe one or two seasons away from being a really top winger, but I do get the impression due to PSR we may sell him, I can’t decide either way what we should do with him

Easy to forget he’s only 20, I don’t think we’d even be entertaining the idea of selling him if not for PSR
Sell. Does crap all. Mainoo is twice the player
He’s been a hell of a lot more useful than Mainoo has this season
 
He actually looked really fast today, which was nice
He put on the afterburners a couple of times and looked quite fast. That ball in from Eriksen wasn't his fault - at first he outpaced the defender, who is quick, but then the ball swerved away from goal, and he had to adjust.

Overall, a little messy today, but a great goal, a nice assist and created chances. Great outlet, if a little erratic - as is expected of a 20 year old.
 
Our MotM today. Excellent goal, excellent assist. Could have scored more even, and from the eye test perspective he ran faster than his usual self
 
He obviously has tons of ability, which is why his decision making is even more frustrating at times. It's a bit of a cliche, but when it "clicks" for him, he can be a very good player. Part of that is trying to beat his man one-on-one more selectively - he almost always ends up losing the ball. His strength is really in passing and moving, as well as driving the ball forward in transition.
 
Fair play, I've been pretty sceptical of him and some of the maddening decisions he makes, and his lack of top end pace, but that was a good performance.
 
@Quagmaguire was being sarcastic. He’s one of the few people on here who haven’t been encouraging his sale since January to fund other signings or downplaying his contributions this season.
 
The kind of player who would generate really high g&a with a bit more composure. He's beginning to make better decisions and it's showing.
 
I feel it’s fairly obvious he’s going if we’re backing Amorim. He just doesn’t fit the system. He’s a winger, not a 10.
 
He should be at this club for the next decade and fully develop his potential. Who cares if we can sell him for 80M? We are not going to get that level of quality from anywhere for that kind of money. He is only 20 years old for christ sake
 
I change my mind on whether I'd be willing to sell after every game.

I do think he's going to be a productive attacker when he hits his prime, you can see the goalscoring potential with the amount of chances he's getting, just needs that one season where suddenly his finishing looks better. He's also creating a bit from cut backs.

He'll probably never be a great technical or intelligent player though. But it would be very disheartening to sell a homegrown talent at 20 who has potential to be a very productive player.