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He's still a kid, playing in a terrible team, and has spent a good chunk of the season playing out of position/learning a new position due to the teams new style change midway through the season.

And he still managed 21 goal contributions. He gets a lot of stick but I think he's a very exciting talent. I'd rather keep him, myself.
 
Garnacho vs Attacking midfielders/Wingers in the top five leagues.

"Why don't we create anything?"

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but where exactly is this potential coming from? Dribbling he constantly loses the ball, strengthwise he constantly gets shrugged off. If he is in space he is moderately quick, but dont really see him beating people and leaving them in the dust. Decision making is incredibly subpar, passing comes late-if at all. Shooting he can make some great shots, but then will miss the net/smash it into the defender the other 9 times out of 10. To top it off he/his brother truly believes himself to be ronaldo level at this stage, at least based off what i have seen/heard.

Things I see: mindset and mentality of continuing to keep going. Big deal imo. Makes great runs. He gets so many chances too. Works hard in the attacking 3rd, constantly making runs.

I do agree with the negatives: not an amazing dribbler, doesn't have top end speed.

But in a different league such as Bundesliga or La Lita he may have more success, esp as he matures and he develops his passing and shooting ability.
 
I will be very surprised if he doesn't end up being one of the best attackers. I see a ton of potential. Whether it's with us or not.
This is what I think too, and I always find it difficult to believe I’m in such a minority. I think he’ll go on to be a great player, I just wouldn’t like to predict where he’ll do it.
 
Garnacho vs Attacking midfielders/Wingers in the top five leagues.

"Why don't we create anything?"

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Everything there can be summarized with his first instinct is to carry and second instinct is to shoot. Otherwise he's just playing it backwards. I don't think this is inherently a problem, there are many players whose primary role is ball carrying. The rest of the stats make up for it if you bother to post them. His mid range carry is one of the best in the league - give him the ball on the touch line, he will move you 30 yards up the field and pass it inside to Bruno or take a shot.

Madueke is a good stats comparison because they're very similar. The only question is if he will develop a brain and learn to spot a pass. His cutbacks are getting there.
 
Things I see: mindset and mentality of continuing to keep going. Big deal imo. Makes great runs. He gets so many chances too. Works hard in the attacking 3rd, constantly making runs.

I do agree with the negatives: not an amazing dribbler, doesn't have top end speed.

But in a different league such as Bundesliga or La Lita he may have more success, esp as he matures and he develops his passing and shooting ability.

How can you develop a pass you don't even try. I'm not exaggerating. Literally 95% of his passes in any game are a backpass or a square ball. He doesn't even look for a forward pass. Normally improvements come from repetition of things you're not good at, and in doing them often, you improve.
 
Never thought I’d see the day our fans turn on a 20 year old academy talent to defend a manager who has been here 6 months and taken 0.92 ppg.

What the feck is wrong with you?
If Garnacho was showing the requisite humility and development that one would expect from a young player, I think people would give him a lot more leeway. Instead, you have him throwing a strop when he gets subbed and letting it be known via social media that he's feeling hard done by when he doesn't start a match (despite being underwhelming in the vast majority of matches that he did start.) I don't remember Amad (or any parasitic siblings) doing that, despite far worse treatment by Ten Hag. I think Garnacho could turn out to be a decent player, but if we were offered 60+ for him, we'd be mad not to take it.
 
He will sign for a Napoli and look amazing. Mctominay looks amazing for Napoli, Antony looks good for Betis. These players were not amazing in the premiership.

Sell him for £50m plus a solid sell on clause. He will probably be at Barcelona in 4 years time.
 
You need to learn how to detect sarcasm. I was obviously taking the piss :smirk:

What I do now is that Garnacho did more than Mount and even if it's high risk/low reward with him, it's better than Mount who was completely harmless.

Garnacho at least, had a decent shot on target as soon as being introduced.

Ha, fair enough, I didn't pick that up at all!

I'd suggest Garnacho was equally harmless, he did nothing beyond that shot, which was low percentage, a comfortable save for Vicario, and it came about because he ignored Dorgu who had the freedom of the Spurs penalty area and was a simple pass away.
 
Garnacho vs Attacking midfielders/Wingers in the top five leagues.

"Why don't we create anything?"

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"Because we're relying on a 20 year old"

However he is the player that creates something. He gets shots on target and like against Spurs, hes the one who makes the goalkeeper work

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How can you develop a pass you don't even try. I'm not exaggerating. Literally 95% of his passes in any game are a backpass or a square ball. He doesn't even look for a forward pass. Normally improvements come from repetition of things you're not good at, and in doing them often, you improve.

Of course he makes a lot of backpasses, because hes beat a defender and pulling the ball back. What do you want him to do there, shoot?
 
I can't see a future for Garnacho at United if Amorim remains.

There's no way we would be receiving the reported £50-60m for him after his form fell off a cliff this season. No doubt he has talent and could develop well elsewhere, but I just don't think he is good enough and doesn't even fit the Amorim system.
 
I can't see a future for Garnacho at United if Amorim remains.

There's no way we would be receiving the reported £50-60m for him after his form fell off a cliff this season. No doubt he has talent and could develop well elsewhere, but I just don't think he is good enough and doesn't even fit the Amorim system.
Does anyone though? Maybe Yoro but beyond that?
 
He's not good enough but also he's one of the only players that even half threatens the opponents goal.
 
Does anyone though? Maybe Yoro but beyond that?

Amad, Fernandes, De Ligt, Dorgu, Matinez, Ugarte but again needs the right partner

Mount does but to be honest you cannot count on him

Zirkzee does but hes just shit

I think Mainoo can with the right midfield partner
 
Genuine question did Garnacho do anything to justify his position going off of league form? Literally blacked out the West Ham and Chelsea game from my memory.
He was benched and subbed for Mount late on in both games. That’s as much as i remember to be fair, I remember Mount being absolute crap thought.
 
"Because we're relying on a 20 year old"

However he is the player that creates something. He gets shots on target and like against Spurs, hes the one who makes the goalkeeper work

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To further back this up, he is doing ok for his age. Its not his fault we don’t have senior players pulling their weight and lessening the burden.

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He was benched and subbed for Mount late on in both games. That’s as much as i remember to be fair, I remember Mount being absolute crap thought.
Fair enough. Still don't think he deserved the start based off of "iv'e played more" but he definitely should have been introduced earlier then 70 min mark. Half time would have been perfect.
 
Nothing wrong with what Amorim said. He’s essentially saying there’s no point looking back on the decision with hindsight.

Garnacho had a bad game in the semi final when he started and Mount was good when he came on, and the reverse happened yesterday. Amorim is simply making the comparison and saying you can’t predict such a situation.
If Amorim after 7-8 months can’t predict the likeliest goalscorer between Garnacho and Mount then he is incompetent and out of depth.
 
He’s not a top player (yet), but selling him to replace him with another number 10 slowing the team down even more is such a funny decision that only this club could make it.
 
He’s not a top player (yet), but selling him to replace him with another number 10 slowing the team down even more is such a funny decision that only this club could make it.
Why would his replacement slow the team down? Do you think Cunha plays at a slow pace or something?
 
To further back this up, he is doing ok for his age. Its not his fault we don’t have senior players pulling their weight and lessening the burden.

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In an ideal world we'd keep him. But the facts are that we need to make sacrifices for cost reasons and he would actually fetch enough money to get a much better 10 in the door through Eze or Mbuemo as examples.

You could also arguably sell Garnacho and upgrade Delap to a Mateta + get Cherki for a 10.
 
Honestly, probably not. Don't think any of the forwards that started covered themselves in glory in games prior to the final.
in general this season our starters have been rubbih and we've recovered in the 2nd half when we could.

it really didn't matter who started
 
In an ideal world we'd keep him. But the facts are that we need to make sacrifices for cost reasons and he would actually fetch enough money to get a much better 10 in the door through Eze or Mbuemo as examples.

You could also arguably sell Garnacho and upgrade Delap to a Mateta + get Cherki for a 10.

You could sell Rashford and do the same. You could sell Antony and so the same blah blah blah. I also have said enough times I am ok to sell him. But people pretending as if he isn’t showing any decent signs as a player for his age are clueless
 
Honestly, probably not. Don't think any of the forwards that started covered themselves in glory in games prior to the final.
I agree, i can also understand him starting Hojlund because there’s nobody else, but Mount? Over Garnacho? It was stupid. Or forget Garnacho, Ugarte and Bruno further forward i could still understand.
 
I agree, i can also understand him starting Hojlund because there’s nobody else, but Mount? Over Garnacho? It was stupid. Or forget Garnacho, Ugarte and Bruno further forward i could still understand.
He should have just started Zirkzee and tried to get a lead early. At least Hojlund could work later on the counter. ETH dropped Hojlund for the FA cup final. We don’t win it if he plays
 
In an ideal world we'd keep him. But the facts are that we need to make sacrifices for cost reasons and he would actually fetch enough money to get a much better 10 in the door through Eze or Mbuemo as examples.

You could also arguably sell Garnacho and upgrade Delap to a Mateta + get Cherki for a 10.
I’d agree with you but there are many other players that can be sacrificed before we let him go.
Eze is already 26yo and his output matches Garnacho’s, hardly an upgrade.
 
Why would his replacement slow the team down? Do you think Cunha plays at a slow pace or something?
Number 10’s tend to be slower, and weaker than most other players on the pitch. There’s a reason why most teams don’t accommodate them, we’ve decided we’ll accommodate two for some odd reason.
 
Number 10’s tend to be slower, and weaker than most other players on the pitch. There’s a reason why most teams don’t accommodate them, we’ve decided we’ll accommodate two for some odd reason.

Amorim doesn’t play with traditional number 10s. At least one of them is more of a wide forward who can play with back to goal (where Garnacho stuggles a bit) also Garnacho has actually adapted well its his finishing / end product that has been lacking.

Cunha does not slow the game down or play slow
 
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