[Lash]

He gets in position but miss most of his chances. Finishing will improve as he is just 20.

We will regret selling him in few years.

That's not shown in the stats though. He hits pretty speculative shots a lot of the time and his output is usually around his xG. It might, it also might stay the same.

Perhaps. I think if we sell him now, we will be in a better position to improve immediately, so I don't really care if he comes good in a few years at this point.

 

[Silas]

That's not shown in the stats though. He hits pretty speculative shots a lot of the time and his output is usually around his xG. It might, it also might stay the same.

Perhaps. I think if we sell him now, we will be in a better position to improve immediately, so I don't really care if he comes good in a few years at this point.

What’s this rush to immediately improve that justifies selling one of our bright young talent? I don’t see us turning this around and competing in a season. It’d be a drastic move. I don’t think we need to sell Garnacho to be capable of getting Top 4.

 

[Zed is not dead]

What’s this rush to immediately improve that justifies selling one of our bright young talent? I don’t see us turning this around and competing in a season. It’d be a drastic move. I don’t think we need to sell Garnacho to be capable to getting Top 4.

Because 60m might get us some top top players apparently, and the best strategy is to sell your best prospects to buy some not as good prospects while keeping the players that actually lower the floor of the team. To me, thar’s poor squad building.

60m gets you two Wilson Odobert or two Emile Smith Rowes these days.

Whether we like Garnacho or not, the way he plays or his attitude, few 20yo do what he does. Hell, few United players do what he does, as infuriating and inconsistent as he is, the rest of the team is worst.

 

[aeh1991]

Because 60m might get us some top top players apparently, and the best strategy is to sell your best prospects to buy some not as good prospects while keeping the players that actually lower the floor of the team. To me, thar’s poor squad building.

60m gets you two Wilson Odobert or two Emile Smith Rowes these days.

Whether we like Garnacho or not, the way he plays or his attitude, few 20yo do what he does. Hell, few United players do what he does, as infuriating and inconsistent as he is, the rest of the team is worst.

That's rubbish. With good scouting you find someone who's better, for cheap. Other teams arguably have better options, amd got them mostly from other leagues. Even Elanga was a better player this season and he came from our own academy.

 

[Lash]

That's rubbish. With good scouting you find someone who's better, for cheap. Other teams arguably have better options, amd got them mostly from other leagues. Even Elanga was a better player this season and he came from our own academy.

Exactly and no one made any real grumble when selling him. Trying to replace 6 goals isn't exactly an impossible task.

What’s this rush to immediately improve that justifies selling one of our bright young talent? I don’t see us turning this around and competing in a season. It’d be a drastic move. I don’t think we need to sell Garnacho to be capable of getting Top 4.

There's not a rush to improve, we probably won't break the 40 point barrier this season - that's relegation territory, we obviously have to improve drastically next season or we will be stuck in the doldrums. We're talking about a player that was a first team player for our worst ever finish, that's made nearly 100 appearances for us and yet we're still saying he won't be ready for a few years.

He's one of our only sellable assets, we need cash to rebuild and he's not made any difference to our current performance. You always have to make trade offs and the downside for this is we could regret it further down the line if he becomes a world beater.

It's it bit like not cashing out your accumulator with one leg left to go - sure you could let it run with a chance of the jackpot, but if you could do with the money now, you should always cash out.

 

[aeh1991]

Selling him for 60m and buying Cherki or anyone with that talent for 30m would be an excellent piece of business. And I was even against signing Cherki before.

 

[Balljy]

I definitely wouldn't be selling him under normal circumstances as he looks like one of those players who has the potential to score a good amount with his directness.

His attitude and his brother suggest someone who could be a problem though, and if selling allows us to get someone in who we want but couldn't get without the cash it might be worthwhile.

 

[The Hilton]

Whether you rate him or not;

You cannot play Dorgu & Mazroui as your wingbacks and then go and play Mount as one of your front 3.

We only had 2 attackers yesterday until the 70th minute which were Hojlund & Amad.

Anyone saying Mount was the right choice is purely bending their mind on their hatred of Garnacho. Garnacho should have atleast got 40 mins of game time yesterday but got 20.

He has every right to be pissed off because Mount has done absolutely nothing this whole season and didn't even do anything vs Chelsea.

Just like @VP89 , @The Hilton & @Valencia Shin Crosses - Amorim seems to have his one formation in his head with clear favourite players.

Garnacho would have been just as ineffective in 40 minutes as he was in 20. The reality is, Garnacho isn't actually any better than Mount, he can't shoot, pass, dribble, or cross effectively.

You mention the wingbacks too, but Mount is actually a better partner for them, just by being able to operate in central positions - Garnacho always pulls out to the wing, meaning our wingback has to move centrally. It messes up the entire formation.

I'm not bothered about his interview, he's young and annoyed he didn't play, it's understandable. I think he's a nice guy too, seems to have a big heart. But he simply isn't good enough as a footballer, and won't reach the levels we require due to a lack of technical ability and physical attributes. So if we get an offer for him, we should take it gratefully.

 

[Gazautd18]

Was against selling him previously.
Now if we get a decent offer I will gladly pack his bags.
He's a talent but has shown he's selfish on and off the pitch.
£60 mil please!

 

[Valencia Shin Crosses]

He should have started instead of Mount or Hojlund.

It was such a “safe” lineup by Amorim and I fecking hated it. Starting Hojlund was always going to be a terrible move but it was the easy thing to do, and then he goes with Mount to just make sure he has a bit of work rate and technicality to pass the ball backwards instead of actually putting another semi threatening player on the pitch.

 

[Valencia Shin Crosses]

That's not shown in the stats though. He hits pretty speculative shots a lot of the time and his output is usually around his xG. It might, it also might stay the same.

Perhaps. I think if we sell him now, we will be in a better position to improve immediately, so I don't really care if he comes good in a few years at this point.

I’ve said it too many times so I’m not going to go on another tangent, but yeah ultimately my opinion of him is just that his “ceiling” isn’t as high as his biggest backers think, so even if he did fulfill his potential I don’t think we’d be selling a future superstar.

 

[Lash]

I’ve said it too many times so I’m not going to go on another tangent, but yeah ultimately my opinion of him is just that his “ceiling” isn’t as high as his biggest backers think, so even if he did fulfill his potential I don’t think we’d be selling a future superstar.

I agree. From watching him I don't get any sense of improvement or adaptation in his game. He's the same player that broke through in my opinion and that's a red flag

 

[EireRed_GS]

Said a few times this season we would be mad to sell him, our most attacking threat most of the time.... but at the same time he drives me mental with how many simple chances he completely messes up, and then his childish /up his own arse behaviour off the pitch... I would just take the money for him now (but a very decent price) . Could do without a melt like that in the squad.

Its been said many times, his ego extremely out-weighs his talent. Too many times has he mouthed off on socials, then has to apologise next day, but yet he keeps on doing it, so clearly isnt learning his lesson, or simply doesnt care.

 

[Blood Mage]

We're selling him because we're skint and he's one of the few players other clubs would actually give us money for. It's sickening to lose a talented player while keeping most of the dross that's here just because we can't sell them.

 

[Betson]

We're selling him because we're skint and he's one of the few players other clubs would actually give us money for. It's sickening to lose a talented player while keeping most of the dross that's here just because we can't sell them.

That is it unfortunately , people are getting too worked up because he is annoyed about how the season has gone and is upset he did not start the other night and has been open about it. At least he is showing some bit of passion and hurt , more than most have shown.

He will go on to have a very good career and win things at another club that is not a basket case like us. We will replace him with an inferior player.

 

[the hea]

If someone is willing to pay 60m for him I have no problem with us selling. He's a decent prospect but nothing special.

 

[Paul778]

He is capable of moments of absolute brilliance but we're not clipping the game up for tiktok. He needs to be able to do good things consistently throughout each and every game.

 

[RuudTom83]

We're selling him because we're skint and he's one of the few players other clubs would actually give us money for. It's sickening to lose a talented player while keeping most of the dross that's here just because we can't sell them.

Yeah sadly I think you hit the nail on the head.

You can put the entire squad up for sale but nobody will give you a bag of crisps for 90% of them.

 

[gobertan]

Don't understand crying over a kid with a bad attitude and only 8 g/a across 36 Prem matches. 2 assists as winger across a full season and he has the gall to whinge. Embarrassing. And age is a shit argument when he's made over 100 appearances and has little development to show for it. He's not a wonderkid, he's a mid level prospect. Works hard, but no end product and lacking the technique required for this league. Type of player that would have been a footnote in any other era of this club. Shipped out on loan or quietly sold for 5-10m. Not worth the hype or the headache.

 

[Vidooq]

Well, that's it then for him. Such a talented footballer, but no brains whatsoever. I just hope he doesn't end up in another club in England, now that he has been told by Amorim to find himself a new club.

 

[Orange Tree]

He should have started, especially because like he said, he has been contributing to us getting to the final.

That said, his reaction is teally poor. He forgot that it's a team game. It showed from his reaction and the way he plays.

 

[United Hobbit]

I wonder who is advising these young players, someone needs to tell him to get his brother to stfu - he's not exactly helping Garnacho career, as clubs potentially look at that and see he comes with baggage in the form of gobby brother.

It doesn't help his cause, I can understand he's frustrated, but if we were looking to sell him in January to raise funds, he's just given them a golden ticket for a sale, as they can now just pin his sale now under "creating the right culture at the club"

I think there's a huge number of players id rather sell ahead of Garnacho, its a shame

That photo of him, Kobbie and Rasmus is feeling like it's going to become the poster image of these times for all the wrong reasons, the unholy trinity at this rate.

The other reason I'm not pro selling him, is because i don't trust us not to waste the money on more deadwood

 

[AdNani]

We're selling him because we're skint and he's one of the few players other clubs would actually give us money for. It's sickening to lose a talented player while keeping most of the dross that's here just because we can't sell them.

No we're selling because he has a terrible attitude, hes been largely shite and every time he gets dropped his brother is all over Instagram, he's nowhere near good enough to put up with off field issues.

 

[lost7]

I'm devastated that he'll be going, he's so young and while he's got so many flaws (both in terms of personality and on the pitch) I reckon he can still develop into a top player

 

[flappyjay]

I'm devastated that he'll be going, he's so young and while he's got so many flaws (both in terms of personality and on the pitch) I reckon he can still develop into a top player

Its just as deflating as Wednesday for me.

 

[Rilz]

I’m genuinely confused why some fans see him as a sort of future messiah. Shown absolutely nothing that makes me think he’ll become a top tier player unless his game undergoes a gigantic transformation

 

[Castia]

I’m genuinely confused why some fans see him as a sort of future messiah. Shown absolutely nothing that makes me think he’ll become a top tier player unless his game undergoes a gigantic transformation

Even in this shitty season with a 17th place finish and complete lack of goals he’s on 11 goals and 10 assists, He’s scored and played well in finals and smashed in a screamer or 2 he’s obviously talented. Makes me sick to see him go whilst some of the other shite will still be stinking the club out next season

 

[Chumpsbechumps]

I’m genuinely confused why some fans see him as a sort of future messiah. Shown absolutely nothing that makes me think he’ll become a top tier player unless his game undergoes a gigantic transformation

Me too, plenty of examples over the years of players who start well very young , get ahead of themselves believing the hype and end up with very unremarkable careers.

 

[Oscar Bonavena]

He's one of the few players we could get good money for, but typical United, we let the rest of the world know that we don't want to keep him just to guarantee we'll get the minimum price possible for him.

And then Ineos laying off staff left right and centre to save peanuts.

FML!

 

[Rake]

He's one of the few players we could get good money for, but typical United, we let the rest of the world know that we don't want to keep him just to guarantee we'll get the minimum price possible for him.

And then Ineos laying off staff left right and centre to save peanuts.

FML!

Leak probably came for Garnacho's camp.

 

[Rockets Redglare]

He's one of the few players we could get good money for, but typical United, we let the rest of the world know that we don't want to keep him just to guarantee we'll get the minimum price possible for him.

And then Ineos laying off staff left right and centre to save peanuts.

FML!

That isn’t how it works.

 

[Hammondo]

He's one of the few players we could get good money for, but typical United, we let the rest of the world know that we don't want to keep him just to guarantee we'll get the minimum price possible for him.

And then Ineos laying off staff left right and centre to save peanuts.

FML!

The first wave saved 8-10 million a year, so not peanuts.

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

Bye bye Garnacho. I'll miss you

 

[Isotope]

It was such a “safe” lineup by Amorim and I fecking hated it. Starting Hojlund was always going to be a terrible move but it was the easy thing to do, and then he goes with Mount to just make sure he has a bit of work rate and technicality to pass the ball backwards instead of actually putting another semi threatening player on the pitch.

Mount was superb against Bilbao, while Garnacho was wasteful. And Mount had winning CL experience and was one of the best player on the Final.

Like Amorim said (and I agreed), it's so obvious and there's just no contest, from a manager's perspective.

Although subbing Mount so late even though not showing any impact, that was just so silly.

 

[Ekeke]

I’m genuinely confused why some fans see him as a sort of future messiah. Shown absolutely nothing that makes me think he’ll become a top tier player unless his game undergoes a gigantic transformation

What do you think Mo Salah was doing at 19/20?

 

[Isotope]

What do you think Mo Salah was doing at 19/20?

Are you implying that he'll be Mo Salah's class?

Or is it just "could be"? But then why stop with just Mo Salah? Why not with Gullit, Rummenigge or Stoickhov?

 

[ElDiabloRojo]

Are you implying that he'll be Mo Salah's class?

Or is it just "could be"? But then why stop with just Mo Salah? Why not with Rummenigge or Stoickhov?

Or just better than the others we have, who are the managers favs, like the good for nothing Mount.

Garnacho isn't perfect but he is an easy sale, unlike so many more of the duds that the club are stuck with.

Amorim will probably be gone by December, he is too stubborn on a boring defensive system that doesn't suit the Premier League.

 

[Ekeke]

Are you implying that he'll be Mo Salah's class?

Or is it just "could be"? But then why stop with just Mo Salah? Why not with Gullit, Rummenigge or Stoickhov?

I'm implying that 20 is too young to be asking what a player has done. It doesnt make the slightest bit of sense, but if you actually look at the numbers he's done very well compared to most top players when they were at his point

In terms of potential and ability I think he has more than Mbeumo who was a top 5 winger/attacker in the league this season. More than Semenyo who was top 10. And more than McTominay long term who has just had a great season and helped his team to win their league. I think Garnacho will end up having more success than those 3 players doing very well and will have more success than Amorim too.

 

[Hammondo]

What do you think Mo Salah was doing at 19/20?

What do you think the vast majority of players were doing at 19/20? Should we assume and keep every player until they are 24?

 

[Ekeke]

What do you think the vast majority of players were doing at 19/20? Should we assume and keep every player until they are 24?

I'd keep all the ones we have on this list

That was from last season

He's also 5th for most goals in the top league for an under 21 this season after Yamal, Diao, Gittens and Castro whilst playing in the best league.