And Fabinho shoved the ref in the same game. So what? Nothing happened.Shows how lucky we were when Bruno clearly shoved the linesman Vs 'Pool.
And Fabinho shoved the ref in the same game. So what? Nothing happened.Shows how lucky we were when Bruno clearly shoved the linesman Vs 'Pool.
pathetic.Apparently, Fulham were angry that this wasn't given as a penalty (not the Martinez/Mitrovic one that was actually a foul for Martinez).
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50-50, could've given it a penalty tbh if he was getting to the ball.
If Martinez's man scored a header, you might make some sense. But it wasn't a header, it wasn't Martinez's man and the ball didn't even go above head height.Because Martinez is such an areal presence
That was really stupid by Shaw though.pathetic.
Too much Martinez fan boys around here so you cant say anything obvious currently. The guy is great IMO (skill wise and he is agressive) but he does have a height issue for his position. Personally I think he can play in the back position( which is also great because of injuries and season rotation) as well but Im not too happy about him prehaps facing guys like Mitrovic, Kane, Haaland etc...If Martinez's man scored a header, you might make some sense. But it wasn't a header, it wasn't Martinez's man and the ball didn't even go above head height.
Again, the point being he isn't good enough for us. ( even as a backup)The fact that you list he's 29 tells me everything I need to know about how this debate will go and I shan't be partaking.
I didn't say he's past it. I said he's not going to improve much, he's not a young player with potential. He's a consolidated player and what we see now is pretty much all he can offer.Past it at 28?
People don't half post some crap on here
Any examples of his height issue causing us problems?Too much Martinez fan boys around here so you cant say anything obvious currently. The guy is great IMO (skill wise and he is agressive) but he does have a height issue for his position. Personally I think he can play in the back position( which is also great because of injuries and season rotation) as well but Im not too happy about him prehaps facing guys like Mitrovic, Kane, Haaland etc...
Tired clicheToo much Martinez fan boys around here so you cant say anything obvious currently. The guy is great IMO (skill wise and he is agressive) but he does have a height issue for his position. Personally I think he can play in the back position( which is also great because of injuries and season rotation) as well but Im not too happy about him prehaps facing guys like Mitrovic, Kane, Haaland etc...
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Where does it say past it? It says won't improve much which is probably truePast it at 28?
People don't half post some crap on here
Doesn't matter what he said, trying to influence the ref when going to the VAR monitor is enough for a red card and that's what he did, he knows he was in the wrong and basically said so in the post match interviewsMore than this thug, I really want to know what Marco Silva said.
Straight red card to the manager just for saying something is pretty rate...
I guess you could say he hasn't been Cina round here in a while!This thread reminds me that Cina hasn't been around in a while.
I guess you could say he hasn't been Cina round here in a while!
I guess you could say he hasn't been Cina round here in a while!
Nah, I'm known for my wit and impeccable sense of humor.I guess you could say he hasn't been Cina round here in a while!
Too much Martinez fan boys around here so you cant say anything obvious currently. The guy is great IMO (skill wise and he is agressive) but he does have a height issue for his position. Personally I think he can play in the back position( which is also great because of injuries and season rotation) as well but Im not too happy about him prehaps facing guys like Mitrovic, Kane, Haaland etc...
Leans into him by not jumping with him and also pushing his hand into his back from behind.You're being very generous to Fulham if you think that is 50/50. That's a classic defender leaning into the attacker at they jump move. There's not really a push in there. Normally that gets praise for being 'clever' defending.
The fact they didn't show it again in the live coverage, or discuss it at HT or FT, just shows how much of a nothing incident it was.
The Martinez/Mitrovic tangle was a bigger shout, but also isn't a penalty. Mitrovic engineers the contact and dives to try and win one, if anything.
Personally I cant see why that should result in a penalty kick, the attacker was never getting high enough to reach the ball which goes straight over his headLeans into him by not jumping with him and also pushing his hand into his back from behind.
It was lazy defending, one of them decsions that always splits opinions, some would call it soft others will say it's a penalty everytime.
Personally, I think he got away with that.
Well if he doesn't get pushed he just might.Personally I cant see why that should result in a penalty kick, the attacker was never getting high enough to reach the ball which goes straight over his head
The contact from Shaw is after he jumped so it in no way effects his ability to reach the ball, in fact after watching it again it looks like the ball is already past the attacker's head at the point Shaw makes contact.Well if he doesn't get pushed he just might.
That is because Oliver is/was a pu**yThis wasn't a red card
It’s a 2 handed shove .Leans into him by not jumping with him and also pushing his hand into his back from behind.
It was lazy defending, one of them decsions that always splits opinions, some would call it soft others will say it's a penalty everytime.
Personally, I think he got away with that.
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Not that it really matters, but that's Fernandes the closest to him f I'm not mistaken.And Fabinho shoved the ref in the same game. So what? Nothing happened.
This is more than a bit of a stretch, basically just taps him on the shoulder as if to get his attention.And Fabinho shoved the ref in the same game. So what? Nothing happened.
Yeah, I have to say I thought they were on about the one between Martinez and Mitrovic which was clearly not a penalty. There's a bit more in that Luke Shaw one, I didn't see it at the time.It’s a 2 handed shove .
People here would be livid if it was reversed
Unlikely but they might make a real example of him and go as high as 10. Which would effectively be his season over. He wouldn't be able to play again until ironically United at Old Trafford on the last day.Mitro was always getting smashed for this one.
If they let premier league players get away with shoving refs then ranting in their faces, you'll have major problems at grass routes and kid level games.
6-8 game ban probably.
What sort of ban do we think he'll be looking at then?
6 games? 10?
Di Canio got 11. I wouldn't be surprised if they match it.Unlikely but they might make a real example of him and go as high as 10. Which would effectively be his season over. He wouldn't be able to play again until ironically United at Old Trafford on the last day.
No he thwacks him in the back because ref didnt blow some foul they wanted. Worse than what Bruno did.This is more than a bit of a stretch, basically just taps him on the shoulder as if to get his attention.