Thanks. I saw it somewhere else in the meantime.I posted it in Oles thread
Some people even manage to complain about bothNothing wrong with starting Cavani, he needs game time too and Ronaldo can't play them all. We should be able to beat Everton at home with the players we had out there. Some people complain when he doesn't use the squad and others when he does.
this 100%.Eh. We played better with Cavani on the pitch anyway, and looked markedly better when he came on in the Villarreal game too.
Who's the kid in the background? Ronaldo's son?
I agree with this. We were 1-0 up before Ronaldo came on.Eh. We played better with Cavani on the pitch anyway, and looked markedly better when he came on in the Villarreal game too.
This isn't the Ronaldo show, I'm already getting a bit tired of it. He can't expect to walk around the pitch for 80 minutes every game and throw his arms up like a diva anytime something bad happens. It's a team sport.
Don’t blame him when the service and tactics are shit. You want Ronaldo to play midfielder as well?He should hold himself to those same standards then. If you come onto the pitch and spend most of your time strolling around that bollocking holds less weight.
Whilst that is a fair point, the problem is putting the faith in Ole. Yes he has got this to a decent squad and generally improved the mood but honestly has shown nothing in terms of actual football to make anyone really believe we are moving forward in nearly 3 years. If we even saw a slight cohesive system then that's something.And if that winner is the 78 year old retired guy then you’ve got a problem. Because he’s the past, you’re supposed to be looking towards the future. Shades of Busby again, successors struggling under a massive shadow. Not good.
The whataboutism from the Ole in brigade is comical. “What about Fergie, he rotated too”. Really, before an international break when 3 points could potentially take us joint top of the league?People are defending Ole over SAF.... This is clown-tier. SAF never rested his key players in important games. You don't bench Ronaldo. You don't bench a guy that had scored 5 goals from 5 games. Cavani this, Cavani that, if Ole wasn't so hung up enough on his beloved 4-2-3-1 with McFred, they can both play in this team. Every rival fan is laughing at us and our manager and people here would jump at the first opportunity to defend him, even against SAF. It's mind-boggling to see.
That's the FA Cup, no?
It is. It proves you don't always have to start your best players and Fergie never did either.That's the FA Cup, no?
Umm no, not even Oles wife would side with Ole.Fergie vs Ole would break Redcafe
No, we lack quality and control in midfield too and that's another problem.Don’t blame him when the service and tactics are shit. You want Ronaldo to play midfielder as well?
Rooney, Hernandez, , Vidic, VDS and Evra were not key players under Fergie? In a cup game that is a pretty strong team in itself. In comparison to what Ole started ina cup game:
I didn't say he didn't use key players. Just that he didn't play his strongest team, and sometimes you shouldn't need to.Rooney, Hernandez, , Vidic, VDS and Evra were not key players under Fergie? In a cup game that is a pretty strong team in itself. In comparison to what Ole started ina cup game:
Virtually all except Sancho who is still adapting to the PL are bench warmers.
In PL games? What are we fighting for here? Top 4 finish? And even that is not all that secure, tbh. Thank God Arsenal have a clueless manager as ours and Tottenham are just fecking shit otherwise we'd be in trouble.I didn't say he didn't use key players. Just that he didn't play his strongest team, and sometimes you shouldn't need to.
Yeah. You think Fergie played his strongest XI in every PL game? It's just a fact that he didn't. I'm not even saying it's wrong, rotation is important.In PL games? What are we fighting for here? Top 4 finish? And even that is not all that secure, tbh. Thank God Arsenal have a clueless manager as ours and Tottenham are just fecking shit otherwise we'd be in trouble.
Barring injuries and the title not decided? I can't think of one time he rotated his best players. It would have had have been some very important CL game or something.Yeah. You think Fergie played his strongest XI in every PL game? It's just a fact that he didn't. I'm not even saying it's wrong, rotation is important.
Hope this is a joke. And can anyone please explain to me this mythical "United way" I keep hearing about?SAF should've actaully hold his mouth shut.
Doesnt matter if he's right or not, stirring up unnecessary headlines when there's pressure on the manager isnt " the united way "
You must be joking. Fergie would lose here hands down.Fergie vs Ole would break Ole
Ole rotated one player as well. He played the rest of his big hitters.Barring injuries and the title not decided? I can't think of one time he rotated his best players. It would have had have been some very important CL game or something.
Hope this is a joke. And can anyone please explain to me this mythical "United way" I keep hearing about?
Link if you want - https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2009/may/13/alex-ferguson-rotation-manchester-united"Not everyone agrees and there are some fans who want me to play my best team every game," says Ferguson. "But if I could sit down with them and explain the number of miles the players are running in every match, the intensity, the speed, the number of times they have to sprint, they would maybe realise how difficult it is."
My point re: DVB is that people are complaining about a lack of squad rotation limiting his game time, whereas we also have people complaining when we do rotate (the Ronaldo situation). Basically, whatever Ole does he will be criticised even if it's for completely opposing reasons.I think most people would agree that Ronaldo cannot play every game, but in this particular case there was an international break coming up, affording ample opportunity for recovery. Whether or not, regardless of fitness, he should generally be starting ahead of Cavani, is a slightly different point about which reasonable people can disagree.
I'm not sure how you connect the Ronaldo and VdB issues though - they do not compete for a starting spot with one another.
it’s bruno fernandes.Who's the kid in the background? Ronaldo's son?
The club should, he's the managerUmm no, not even Oles wife would side with Ole.
Your not campaigning in the UK right now with the insulation gang by any chance are you?SAF should've actaully kept his mouth shut.
Doesnt matter if he's right or not, stirring up unnecessary headlines when there's pressure on the manager isnt " the united way "