Nah, Ole is romanticized as a player but his stature is miniscule compared to SAF. One created an empire at Manchester United the other was a loveable super sub.
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Sometimes I wonder are they Ole fans or United fans. SAF is spot on. Everton is not a relegation fodder (I dont even think we can beat a fodder now) and that team selection was horrendous.
I doubt Sir Alex was aware someone was filming it to throw it on social media. He wasn't trying to stir anything.
So drop Bruno Fernandes then?
This. You can clearly see he’s having what he thinks is a private chat with a celebrity fan.
Knowing how Sir Alex works he would never attract unwanted attention from the press, he’s probably spoken with Ole already to confirm the same.
Well considering we lost 2 points after Ronaldo came on, the valid argument is that Cavani should have stayed on. The other argument is that the game would have turned out differently if Ronaldo had started, which is true. We could have lost 3-0. Or won 9-0.
That's the thing about introducing a variable, it changes everything
Its easy to argue when you sit with the outcome in your hand
This. I don't think there was anything wrong in giving Cavani the start that he clearly deserves. People also need to remember that Ronaldo is 36 and despite being a freak of nature, it will take it out of you at that age - his performance vs Villarreal was really poor (goal aside) and he looked visibly leggy.
I also read that Ronaldo very rarely played 3 games in a week at Juve for this exact reason - it will clearly happen again this season and so it should - Cavani deserves to start games this season.
The main issue with team selection was not no Ronaldo but the midfield that was fielded!
Don’t be silly now.
This idea that Ole is worshipped is absolute fiction that is dreamt up by frustrated teenage Ole-out fans who don’t like people who have a different opinion to them.
Feck sake I’ve defended Ole continuously but he’s Ole not somebody like feckin Cantona who would have some of us under his spell by the sheer scale of his legend.
People think Ole is backed because he scored a goal in the CL final, come off it.
Ferguson was a great manager and a much better football mind that everyone here. But also he doesn't and didn't get everything right in his career.
Of course he did, on several occasions over his career.
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I presume you have read all the comments on it here?
He is heading to international break after that, really no need to rest him, at least from us.
Unless we wanted to manage him well and keep him fresh for his international games for Portugal.
Yeah that’s the spirit, our greatest manager shouldn’t have an opinion and should keep his mouth shut.
I have read a lot of comments on Ole and with one exception I have not read that anyone would put Ole (or any other ex United player or manager apart from Sir Matt) above or equal to Fergie - however reading Ronaldo threads I assume some numpties would choose Ronaldo above Fergie.
The exception I mentioned: I remember one poster in the past writing Keane > SAF, which I found weird despite Keane being my favourite United player ever.
On this thread you could ask SAF when Ronaldo is 42 if he should start every game and the answer would be “absolutely, no doubt about it” - doesn’t mean that it should be done. Ronaldo should indeed not start all the time.
Messi does...
Not at the moment no, but hit me up and we can do some work together!
He's still appointed by the club. Doesnt look good when United-representatives talkes down the manager.
SAF wouldn't be happy if Woodward talked like that when he was managing either.
Love Fergie but not sure he's right on this one.
He looked tired against Vilarreal and Cavani came on looking sharp. People moan at Ole for not being a strong manager but that was a big decision. I don't think it was the wrong one either.
Let's be honest what did Ronaldo do when he came on fresh?
He looked tired against Vilarreal and Cavani came on looking sharp. People moan at Ole for not being a strong manager but that was a big decision. I don't think it was the wrong one either.
Let's be honest what did Ronaldo do when he came on fresh?
Ha ha, indeed.
Talk about taking an off the cuff remark and blowing it up out of proportion. Besides, Fergie used to rotate players plenty, nobody started every match for him.
Anyway, the problem wasn't not starting Ronaldo, it was naivety when dealing with counter attacks (especially from our own corners, which is turning into a very frustrating recurring theme).
Anyway, the problem wasn't not starting Ronaldo, it was naivety when dealing with counter attacks (especially from our own corners, which is turning into a very frustrating recurring theme).
This thread is worthless without a clip or twitter link with clip embedded.
Sir Alex did rotate players. A good example is when Ole and Teddy came in for the FA Cup Semi-Final Replay against Arsenal, Teddy starting the final game against Spurs over Cole, Yorke not starting the FA Cup Final etc.
However our fixture congestion at that point was bonkers whereas here we were playing before an International Break.
However our fixture congestion at that point was bonkers whereas here we were playing before an International Break.
Not all of them, I struggle to read an entire page of posts here nowadays with all the extreme negativity tbh.
I think if Sir Alex wants to drop some outrageous lines like that, he should always do so while wearing a hooded costume, Sith-style to maintain his anonymity.
Until he ultimately unleashes Order 99 on the current regime, and takes over again, that is.
Until he ultimately unleashes Order 99 on the current regime, and takes over again, that is.
Seriously no video in this entire thread?
I’d have started him, only because we don’t have a game this week. Who are we keeping him fresh for, Portugal? feck that.
He looked tired against Villarreal.
Everton was his 3rd game in 8 days. He will also play for Portugal. If he gets injured with them (due to being overplayed) and misses a few weeks afterwards United will also suffer.
Not starting or resting players is about so much more than just about the gap between two games.
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SAF is Ole out
The old man is just trying to sustain a conversation with a stranger, Jesus Christ people, have you never uttered clichéed standard phrases without exactly meaning them, just to say something?
Leave Ferguson alone, leave Solskjaer alone. Move on.
Leave Ferguson alone, leave Solskjaer alone. Move on.
The Great Man is right imo. Ronaldo might be 36 but he starts this game. Why are we resting him? For internationals? If he's fit enough to come on for 35 minutes why not start him and sub him if and when needed? He's a player whose presence intimidates the opposition and he can be invisible for 89 minutes and score in the last. He should start every league and champions league game unless injured.
So the media will now ask Ole how he feels about what SAF said and Ole will claim everyone in the team is a superstar.
Haha.
It’s getting ridiculous. Ronaldo is not the Ronaldo of 2008. Some fans are so deluded. It’s not a signing Utd needed, but now we have him, it’s going to cause so many problems. I’m sure Ronaldo will be a good squad player, but to suggest he needs to start every game is a joke.
As for Fergie saying he should have started, doesn’t mean Ole was wrong. It’s just an opinion of someone who chose Moyes to be the manager of Utd.
Easy to think we know everything from the outside looking in.
Fact is that SAF would have sold a 36 year Ronaldo to give a chance to Greenwood to play.
3 goals in 3 games at the start. Zilch ever since Van Nistlerooy re-joined.
3 goals in 3 games at the start. Zilch ever since Van Nistlerooy re-joined.
Fergie loves Ronaldo so much that it wouldn't surprise me one bit if he considered managing again. This is the same Fergie who didn't even want to be a distraction when Moyes was manager that he didn't attend games for a while and now suddenly he's on film offering his opinion against the current manager. His loyalties lie firmly with Ronaldo.
Ultimately SAF is a winner. If he thinks he can win the title with a 36 year old striker playing every single game as a starter for United in all competitions then so be it.
I'm just not sure. Love is one thing but SAF would put that need for winning first and foremost.
He hasn’t said anything that could undermine a manager for 8 years. Whether it was Moyes, LVG, Jose, or Ole in his first 2 full seasons. But now it could be about the fact that SAF played a role in getting Ronaldo to rejoin, or it could just be that standards are expected to be met as this is be best squad we’ve had in a very long time. I think it’s the latter.
The media are loving all this.
Doesn't matter, should be able to beat Everton with *checks notes as to what other superstar is starting in place over Ronaldo* Cavani since their best players are injured. I have plenty of issues with Ole but Ronaldo not starting every game isn't one of them.
Pretty sure Sir Alex has praised Ole as manager too.