Vitinha?
Alex Scott
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Vitinha?
I am sure we would do our due dilligence
Very good young talent, well rounded, can cover the whole pitch for 100 minutes, down to earth. Would be great signing for 40mil, but probably more. Next year he will cost what Anderson costs now.
He'd be taking Mainoos place on current form
Well first of all he covers the ground twice as much. That is why Mainoo will be upgraded in the first place.
For England he absolutely should
Would be a great signing as competition for Mainoo but a no. 6 is a must. Cant go another season with a weak midfield.
Yeah ideally we could get Guimaraes/Tonali and one of those because then you have experience too
Developing into High speed and physical Frenkie De jong type.
Scott seems athletic and quick. Pretty signifcant upgrades to Mainoo already
De Jong is much more of a creative passer of the ball.
Seems a lazy comparison because they have similar hair.
Maybe he can improve that aspect further
Floppy hair and GF who doesnt want to leave Bournemouth?
I like him. He offers something different to Mainoo and provides some good physicality and quality in the middle of the park as well. The price shouldn’t be too steep.
Yeah has an outside shot of World Cup squad too
Really?...
He was called up to the England squad once in November, but wasn't given a cap and Tuchel has decided against giving him a chance since. There must be some reason for that.
I hope not. Automatically adds £15 million to his price if so.
Think this is important to consider. We've got to start making moves early. At £40/50m it doesn't mean we can't still spend big on another midfielder as well.
Actually, next year he will only have 1 year left on his current contract (it expires summer 2028).
But with only 1 year left on his deal, there'll be even more clubs probably in for him.
And also yeah, there is absolutely zero chance Bournemouth sell for only 40mil this summer. I guess It'd likely be closer to £60mil.
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definitely a player we need to have on the list of targets and would be a solid alternative to Anderson plus a bit cheaper which might allow us to target a winger or CF as well
I suggested taking the gamble on him before the Bournemouth move and was told he was too risky, and he wouldn't flourish here, needed to grow etc 25m seemed like a very good risk to take to me
Free Kobbie t-shirts would break out and the media United legends would be losing their minds
The risk then and still is is that he has had a lot of injuries for a young man.
Its you who gives a shit about their hair IDGAF about. Besides being a type does not mean being an exact clone. Ever.
Bingo.
Yeah I do worry about his ease in picking up injuries
Not if we're actually playing well.
The problem with Amorim freezing Mainoo out was that Ugarte being subbed on ahead of him was crazy, and the fact that Casemiro and Bruno were not a good duo. Bruno needed to be further forwards.
If we bench Mainoo because we finally find a balanced midfield that can compete with the best - alongside Mainoo getting fair opportunities to play as a squad option instead of being frozen out - we'll all be happy.
He may be over them now but they were not minor injuries.
He has a dreadful injury record though. We need midfielders available for 90% of games especially as even if we get 3 this summer we are still limited.
Yeah that's very true
Interesting perspectives but somewhat confusing to say his injury record is dreadful. Since making his pro debut he's made 176 appearances and missed 32 games through injury. That's an availability rate of about 85% in his career. This season, he's been available for and appeared in every single match we've played. 100% availability in 26/27 would indicate he doesn't have any long term impact from the two injuries he suffered. To compare him to another young midfielder, Mainoo has made 97 appearances and missed 42 games through injury, an availability rate of about 70%.
And yes, I know those numbers exclude games when they were available but not picked. As a guide though, they show Scott is in good shape.
Not that I want to see us sell him but unless he signs a new deal then I think it's inevitable that he'll go in the summer. However, it will be for a lot more than £40m.
And yes, I know those numbers exclude games when they were available but not picked. As a guide though, they show Scott is in good shape.
Not that I want to see us sell him but unless he signs a new deal then I think it's inevitable that he'll go in the summer. However, it will be for a lot more than £40m.
this lad is a really intriguing prospect as he has an eye for goal but he's also got that grind in his game where he doesn't mind doing the dirty work and putting in tackles
i like the option of this lad and Fernandes from West Ham.....and neither would break the bank
i like the option of this lad and Fernandes from West Ham.....and neither would break the bank
He had surgery on his knee injury, which kept him out for a long time. The surgery could well have solved the problem, judging by the fact that he hasn't had a single injury in the 14 months since his return.
Don't disagree with the general point but including games injured before a player has even made his full professional debut is somewhat harsh IMO given you can't really be missed as missing games if you weren't really in proper contention. Mainoo would be at 23 clubs games missed through injury from 129 total clubs games which gives an availability of well over 80% and is comparable with Scott. The reason I've gone into this is because in fairness people have questions Mainoo's injury record too so it's not unreasonable to look similarly at a player with a similar record. I don't think eithers record is problematic personally, Mainoo had muscular issues which isn't uncommon with younger players, Scott had a knee injury which he recovered well from and has played almost every game this season as far as I'm aware. For what it's worth I think he's a cracking player.
It'll be one or the other you would imagine and a 6
I took the stats from Transfermarkt. There it says he made his debut in the 22/23 season (1 PL appearance, 1 FA Cup and 1 EFL Cup). The injuries listed start from the 23/24 season, a season in which he was either on the bench or playing in every game that he was fit.
https://www.transfermarkt.com/kobbie-mainoo/verletzungen/spieler/820374
To be fair, the info there isn't always reliable, especially around injuries.
You're absolutely right about young players and muscle injuries. I simply picked Mainoo for the comparison as the obvious candidate given the clubs involved. To take another young midfielder, there's Wharton - 138 appearances with 24 games missed so an availability of around 85%. Or Elliot Anderson - 161 appearances with 25 games missed equalling around 87%.
The posts above were saying Scott's injury record is dreadful when it really isn't. His overall availability % is very similar to the other young English CMs who might be on the move this summer. Any, all or none of them could go on to have terrible injury records in their career from here - hopefully none - but there's nothing especially worrying about Scott's availability to date.
There is quite the difference coming off the bench late on to making a full debut, the figures I gave are from when he made his first league start from the club onwards. But yeah, if you wanted to take it from the earlier point the % would be much lower, I just don't think that's overly fair and would go from when players made their first league start or were at least coming off the bench 3/4 games in a row.
Wharton has also had his injury record questioned too, both on this forum and elsewhere, so there's no real need to be quite so defensive when the three players available between 80-85% of the time have all had their records questioned.
As I said, I don't think Scott's record is problematic but the players you compared him to - Mainoo and then Wharton - have both had their injury records questioned too. If we can sign players who are available to be on the pitch for 85% of our gametime then it's good business as far as I'm concerned.
i think Fernandes could play the 6 and be very good in that role.....you have 4 quality players like alex, kobbie, bruno and matheus....much more solid than what we have right now and you mix in an academy guy or two
I like him. Reminds me a bit of early days Modric.
Big comparison that