Generally agreed, but there also comes a time when you have to click on the Buy It Now button, or else run the risk of losing to a rival bidder.Of course we should be driving the price down. We should be paying the least we can for every potential target. You don't just go around offering exactly what the selling club wants. If he goes elsewhere, then good luck to him.
Is it your money mate? Remember how we squeezed a great fee out of inter for lukaku and didn’t invest it? “Waking up and saving the glazers money at the expense of signing players to make us competitive” must be anew trophy.Of course it's unreasonable. The guy has 1 year left on his contract. He could be free in some months.
United must drive a hard bargain. We are not desperate for a left back as it is.
Its quite encouraging that they have woken up now when it comes to negotiations.
I would say take it to the wire on October 5. So many sellers have been taking us for fools. We must not always pay what they want. Negotiate and meet in the middle
Are you daft? Why do you think we have not sold the deadwood? Its because we overpaid in the first place or gave them big contracts.Is it your money mate? Remember how we squeezed a great fee out of inter for lukaku and didn’t invest it? “Waking up and saving the glazers money at the expense of signing players to make us competitive” must be anew trophy.
We've been run like an absolute joke for at least decade now. Our struggles stem largely from the shit decision making of our board and managers.Thiago was an unreal bargain, doesn’t make it the benchmark. What do you think is a fair price? The £12m that was rumoured?
the point is someone else will pay the asking price, no idea how anyone on here can be defending the club over this - or the entire transfer window. It’s taken a week from agreeing terms with him and we still haven’t agreed a fee, with every step conducted via the media. It’s a joke how we are run and all but a select few on here can see that clearly.
You may be an oracle on transfers on this forum, however, I do have a certain degree of understanding of transfer workings. Granted, there might be other options available for United. Likewise, there are no guarantees there are no alternative clubs willing to pay Porto more than United for Telles. This is how an open and free market works.Thiago is world class in his position, Liverpool won't find someone out there with the same quality or someone with the same potential can be signed as alternative.
Telles on the other hand is not a world class in his position, we can find someone out there with same quality or if not someone with the same potential can be signed as alternative.
Do you understand now? Bayern knew Liverpool won't give up in chasing Thiago given other alternative won't be worth as much value as Thiago. While what Porto needs to know here United can give up in chasing Telles given there are other alternative. If Porto prefers us to go for the alternative left back then they will lose Telles for free next year.
Maybe slabhead could get on the end of those crosses.This is a must signing.
All FC Porto fans in their fan forum believe he won't sign a new contract and the club has financial problem. If there are alternative clubs who want to pay, they would have done it now to beat us into it rather than waiting it to the end of the window to force Porto selling him cheaper than their asking price. You don't try to play hard ball when your player only has 1 year left contract, not when your club is financially not as good as Bayern and not if you are unsure that the buyer will absolutely pay.You may be an oracle on transfers on this forum, however, I do have a certain degree of understanding of transfer workings. Granted, there might be other options available for United. Likewise, there are no guarantees there are no alternative clubs willing to pay Porto more than United for Telles. This is how an open and free market works.
The only way United end up paying less is if Telles insists its only United he'd move to this window. Porto would then have to evaluate options available to themselves. Either to release him for a substantially lower fee than they were expecting. Keep him and hope another suitor comes in for his signature near the end of the transfer window or in January. Alternatively, he relents and signs a new contract. The worst-case scenario for Porto is leaves for free in the summer.
I didn't know Dortmund had publicly said "this is the set fee" or that Porto hadn't.Well except you can’t overlay that to the Dortmund deal. They have a set fee and won’t budge so there is no “saving” there. It’s similar to how can’t compare why one player went cheaper than another.
No team is gonna come out and publicly state the fee unless a release clause is involved.I didn't know Dortmund had publicly said "this is the set fee" or that Porto hadn't.
Slabhead can't get his head onto defensive headers!Maybe slabhead could get on the end of those crosses.
Oh, so they've got a set fee but they haven't said it. But we know what it is?No team is gonna come out and publicly state the fee unless a release clause is involved.
Yet absolutely no one else is rushing in to buy him at that price, considering everyone is complaining how long we've been stringing this outI think someone else takes him at the asking price of €25m, then we can wal away with our heads held high - in the knowledge that we have the Shaw/Williams combo and about 2 assists from LB this season.
2 assists? That seems pretty high.I think someone else takes him at the asking price of €25m, then we can wal away with our heads held high - in the knowledge that we have the Shaw/Williams combo and about 2 assists from LB this season.
Players are assets and I would trust that bankers in these deals have a better clue of what players are worth in this environment more so than fans on the internet.That's because we have a banker as a negotiator who has no clue of what players are worth
Meeting evaluations means you actually need to make signings. So ya..I feel like we don’t actually have any valuation of players in mind. It’s just “always pay less” Meaning if Porto wanted £30m, we would refuse to go above £25m, but if Porto wanted £20m, we would refuse to go above £12m. You know what I mean? It’s like even when it’s a fair price we just won’t meet it. We’re happy to pay £12m, but if the asking price was £12m we’d only pay £7m.
Thats not true. For a 28yo LB going into his last contract year, asking for 25mil is reckless. It's a need but not a desperate one. We need to start being financial prudent in our purchases and contract renewals which will create a more.competitive culture. I will either bid max 18mil or promise a sign on fee if we get on a free.Sancho I understand. The difference in valuation is 30 million. Haggling over Telles because of 5 mil. C'mon. You are already getting him at a discount at 25 million.
The same bankers that risked the Adidas commercial money by not signing Bruno last summer just to save a few million dollars.Players are assets and I would trust that bankers in these deals have a better clue of what players are worth in this environment more so than fans on the internet.
Fans will either start returning to the football grounds or an alternative to it will be found. Else clubs will start going out of business which I very much doubt it will happen.The financial climate? Jan/Feb time?
Not a chance.
It's not the traditional type of asset though like a house for examplePlayers are assets and I would trust that bankers in these deals have a better clue of what players are worth in this environment more so than fans on the internet.
Why is it a discount? No one else seems to want him and he has 8 or 9 months left on his contract.Sancho I understand. The difference in valuation is 30 million. Haggling over Telles because of 5 mil. C'mon. You are already getting him at a discount at 25 million.
Agreed. This is exactly the type of transfer we should be driving the fee down on.Thats not true. For a 28yo LB going into his last contract year, asking for 25mil is reckless. It's a need but not a desperate one. We need to start being financial prudent in our purchases and contract renewals which will create a more.competitive culture. I will either bid max 18mil or promise a sign on fee if we get on a free.
That's a bit harsh on Porto, if we don't want him, we don't want him.The club is absolutely useless.
Exactly. When have bankers ever fecked anything up?Players are assets and I would trust that bankers in these deals have a better clue of what players are worth in this environment more so than fans on the internet.
It very much looks like that. We have a gargantuan first team squad that needs trimming.It's clear we're trying to sell before buy.
Yeah think once Rojo & Smalling are sorted we will see this done quite quickIt very much looks like that. We have a gargantuan first team squad that needs trimming.
€20M is too much? Hell, I’ve got a fiver if you need it Woody.Tweet
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If true, we must be either skint or saving the bulk of the money for Sancho.Tweet
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The price will be less next week. If the player wants to join us and no risk of losing him then we’ll wait. He has to quarantine anyway so it makes no difference. He’ll be available after Internationals as he’s in the Brazil squad.€20M is too much? Hell, I’ve got a fiver if you need it Woody.
