Alexander Isak | Liverpool player

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Well feck us, but I cheer myself up that it won’t be easy to bed in so many new players. And Ekitike should be a bit annoyed now - especially after the start he had!
 
hellhunter said:
Does Isak for 130m really move the needle for them when they have Ekitike already? Neither are that great as LW, and Gakpo is pretty good there anyway.

They need depth after losing Jota and Diaz more than another big money CF
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Tbf he's better than Ekitike. So yeah their attack now is much less reliant on Salah who carried it all of last season.

It'll be interesting to see if Wirtz does anything to move the needle in midfield though - PSG should've beat them easily in the CL last season, so I don't know if that gets them past them
 
Skills said:
Tbf he's better than Ekitike. So yeah their attack now is much less reliant on Salah who carried it all of last season.

It'll be interesting to see if Wirtz does anything to move the needle in midfield though - PSG should've beat them easily in the CL last season, so I don't know if that gets them past them
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Oh no doubt, but they're spending 130m on a rather small upgrade. Of course we'd all prefer if they signed no one at all, but I think they could spent those 130m in a more meaningful way that improves them more
 
Ayoba said:
My word, what a team they have. Add Guehi to the mix and they're sorted for many years now. The Liverpool dominance has begun.
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Seldom do such star studded teams work out as expected. The Real Galacticos, PSG, even Real last year after they got Mbappe. I would say when Utd after we added the likes of Veron, Barthez, RVN to the treble winning team didn't ever hit the heights we expected (only 1 title from 01-06).

I wouldn't be surprised if they struggle, especially this season having to bed in so many new players. Yes, they've made a perfect start but they were lucky against Bournemouth and Newcastle and nothing special yesterday as well. Let's see but I wouldn't be sweating too much just yet.
 
OverratedOpinion said:
He posted a long rambling message about how important and hard his job is and how he got it spot on in the end. After saying Isak wasn't leaving all summer.

Lost his head.

Transfer journalists are the most pointless people in football in the grand scheme of things. Ultimately it just means you hear about a signing a few hours before the club just announce it themselves.
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He’s an emotional fan, more than a journalist. He’s not what you want from a journalist, more Arsenal Fan TV than serious journalist.
 
With the Isak signing Id fully expect Salah to be off pretty soon and you know they will get a fortune for him from Saudi.

They have replaced nearly all their issues that we were all hoping would be the end of them sadly. (Other than Van Dijk but assuming Guehi is that long term)
 
hellhunter said:
Oh no doubt, but they're spending 130m on a rather small upgrade. Of course we'd all prefer if they signed no one at all, but I think they could spent those 130m in a more meaningful way that improves them more
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I think there was also the chance if they didn't sign him this summer, someone else would've done next summer. Psg, Real Madrid, Barcelona could be in the market for a CF next summer - so they've nabbed 2 now.

It was probably too risky putting the goalscoring load on Ekitike if Salah doesn't start firing.
 
This’ll ramp up the pressure on Lord Varys. Half a billion spent this window alone. Surely he has to deliver a minimum of a double this season.
 
Two 100m+ transfers in one summer. I don't know which lottery they hit, but it's a good one.
 
A lot of money for a player who gets a few injuries, Isak is very good but as others have said, it’s a lot of players to keep happy now, plus I thought Dias was really good and Jota obviously so I don’t think they’ve upgraded that much for the money they’ve spent.
 
Robertd0803 said:
With the Isak signing Id fully expect Salah to be off pretty soon and you know they will get a fortune for him from Saudi.

They have replaced nearly all their issues that we were all hoping would be the end of them sadly. (Other than Van Dijk but assuming Guehi is that long term)
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Still don't think they've come anywhere close to replacing Salah. Even with these signings they'll become somewhat mortal again hopefully.
 
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OverratedOpinion said:
He posted a long rambling message about how important and hard his job is and how he got it spot on in the end. After saying Isak wasn't leaving all summer.

Lost his head.

Transfer journalists are the most pointless people in football in the grand scheme of things. Ultimately it just means you hear about a signing a few hours before the club just announce it themselves.
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It really is a weird profession, as is the fan obsession over them. People getting worked up and talking about them getting transfers "right" or "wrong" when all they are doing is reporting information they are given by people involved in the deals, not predicting transfers with magic skills.
 
spiriticon said:
Two 100m+ transfers in one summer. I don't know which lottery they hit, but it's a good one.
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They've gotten more than 200m in sales, alongside saving money last season. Getting the money they got for Diaz, Nunez and Quansah was the real lottery.
 
Another annoyingly good signing for Liverpool.

It's also annoying how Newcastle have managed to receive a much bigger fee than the initial bid despite the untenable position of the player being on strike with them, not playing, and making it clear he wants to join one specific club. In our case, that's seriously weakened our hand and reduced the fee we hoped to receive, but they've managed to hold out and get Liverpool to seriously up their bid.

Obviously a lot to do with the stock of the player and how much the buying club is prepared to pay - but still always seems like clubs are only prepared to lowball us, while prepared to pay the modern crazy fees to other clubs. And that also applies to some of the suspiciously high fees Liverpool have received for their unwanted squad players / young academy players that they've sold this summer.
 
Bertie Wooster said:
Another annoyingly good signing for Liverpool.

It's also annoying how Newcastle have managed to receive a much bigger fee than the initial bid despite the untenable position of the player being on strike with them, not playing, and making it clear he wants to join one specific club. In our case, that's seriously weakened our hand and reduced the fee we hoped to receive, but they've managed to hold out and get Liverpool to seriously up their bid.

Obviously a lot to do with the stock of the player and how much the buying club is prepared to pay - but still always seems like clubs are only prepared to lowball us, while prepared to pay the modern crazy fees to other clubs. And that also applies to some of the suspiciously high fees Liverpool have received for their unwanted squad players / young academy players that they've sold this summer.
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Slightly different scenarios IMO. In our case the fee was for a player that if you don't sign is not the end of the world, but if you do it is nice a bonus. Here they are asking Newcastle to sell their best and world class player. If someone came in for our best and world class player that was going to significantly weaken the team we would also hold out for big money.
 
Real Name said:
Liverpool title to lose now.
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Anything less then PL and CL this season will be a huge failure.

Once they have Isak they will have broken the world record for spending in a single window. Almost £500mil by themselves if Guehi comes as well. Insane.
 
RedRoach said:
Slightly different scenarios IMO. In our case the fee was for a player that if you don't sign is not the end of the world, but if you do it is nice a bonus. Here they are asking Newcastle to sell their best and world class player. If someone came in for our best and world class player that was going to significantly weaken the team we would also hold out for big money.
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If the player remained professional, yeah. If the player situation became the same as Isak, and some of our current ones - absent from the club and becaming an untenable situation - then you'd expect that to weaken our negotiation position as regards a price rather than strengthen it and allow us to get maximum fee for the exiled player (as Newcastle have managed).
 
dinostar77 said:
Anything less then PL and CL this season will be a huge failure.

Once they have Isak they will have broken the world record for spending in a single window. Almost £500mil by themselves if Guehi comes as well. Insane.
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We've spent almost as much as them over the last two summer windows and they have raised more money from players sales too.

It's easier for them as they have built a really good squad of players so they can just go out and add the very best players that they can get, whereas we need virtually a whole new squad!
 
They'll end up getting crazy Salah money next summer from Saudis, as he will still be tied up with them for another year, but it won't hit them as hard, as they'll be less reliant on him bailing them out this year. Probably spending big on central defenders next summer, unsettling Botman, van Hecke or van de Ven.
Rat bastards.
 
Bertie Wooster said:
If the player remained professional, yeah. If the player situation became the same as Isak, and some of our current ones - absent from the club and becaming an untenable situation - then you'd expect that to weaken our negotiation position as regards a price rather than strengthen it and allow us to get maximum fee for the exiled player (as Newcastle have managed).
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Still don't think it is equivalent when you are comparing the ability of the players we have sold. A better comparison IMO is Ronaldo. We didn't want him to go, he wanted to go to Real Madrid and was antagonising for the deal (not as much as Isak granted, but similar). Real Madrid wanted him, but he was our best player and one of the best in the world at the time. The result a world record fee for the time and a fee that is still our record sale.
 
MaMa given red said:
We've spent almost as much as them over the last two summer windows and they have raised more money from players sales too.

It's easier for them as they have built a really good squad of players so they can just go out and add the very best players that they can get, whereas we need virtually a whole new squad!
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Yes we are light years behind. Even at youth level. They are producing players to sell for decent amounts like Chelsea. We have alot of catching up to do. It will probably take 5-10 years to do so I think.

They are going to Real Madrid levels at present. There is no domestic challenge. City are broken. Arsenal are on a Arteta straightjacket. Chelsea are unpredictable.
 
ShoePolish said:
They'll end up getting crazy Salah money next summer from Saudis, as he will still be tied up with them for another year, but it won't hit them as hard, as they'll be less reliant on him bailing them out this year. Probably spending big on central defenders next summer, unsettling Botman, van Hecke or van de Ven.
Rat bastards.
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Wouldn’t surprise me if they already had a deal in place for Salah from Saudi to continue to fund their exorbitant spending this summer and come out in the net positive. They are run dangerously well as sickening as it is to say.
 
Why do so many people think this is a major problem for Ekitike?

The plan was always to get Ekitike and Isak. Liverpool now have Gakpo, Ekitike, Isak and Salah, all who can play across the top, easy to rotate those 4 around and change formation if required. None are a Halland type striker that is limited to playing through the middle. Elliot, Chiesa and young Rio to come in when needed.

Very exciting options for Liverpool.
 
LochGormanAbú said:
Why do so many people think this is a major problem for Ekitike?

The plan was always to get Ekitike and Isak. Liverpool now have Gakpo, Ekitike, Isak and Salah, all who can play across the top, easy to rotate those 4 around and change formation if required. None are a Halland type striker that is limited to playing through the middle. Elliot, Chiesa and young Rio to come in when needed.

Very exciting options for Liverpool.
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Cause they're both strikers and you play 1 striker
 
LochGormanAbú said:
Why do so many people think this is a major problem for Ekitike?

The plan was always to get Ekitike and Isak. Liverpool now have Gakpo, Ekitike, Isak and Salah, all who can play across the top, easy to rotate those 4 around and change formation if required. None are a Halland type striker that is limited to playing through the middle. Elliot, Chiesa and young Rio to come in when needed.

Very exciting options for Liverpool.
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It's not as versatile an arrangement as their previous successful combinations unless proven otherwise which would mean at least one of them has to either be benched for long durations or play out of position and at this stage that's presumably ekitike who has great potential and such an outcome might hamper his development.
 
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