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I liked Sakas frustration at his team mates not knowing what a maze is.
 

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Fair points and something I'm sure most people who have played at some level would agree with.
But to then put yourself in front of 10 cameras and have the world see it out of relative context is quite idiotic. These documentaries bng in some welcome monies I'm sure, but you lose the essence and soul of the club even more than the usual branding nonsense, because you're actually monetising the internal processes, something that should remain sacrosanct.

It comes off as twee and silly to most outside watchers, especially opposition supporters (regardless that Tuchel might be making little voodoo dolls of all his players in Season 3).

Not a fan, Jeff. Off with Amazon's heads.
I agree with you in most parts but it is what it is. I suspect once you actually watch them they will be the same as the others, quite sanatised, heavily edited & fairly boring.

Sunderland Till I Die, now that was a bit more raw and revealing.
 

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Fair points and something I'm sure most people who have played at some level would agree with.

But to then put yourself in front of 10 cameras and have the world see it out of relative context is quite idiotic. These documentaries bring in some welcome monies I'm sure, but you lose the essence and soul of the club even more than the usual branding nonsense, because you're actually monetising the internal processes, something that should remain sacrosanct.

It comes off as twee and silly to most outside watchers, especially opposition supporters (regardless that Tuchel might be making little voodoo dolls of all his players in Season 3).

Not a fan, Jeff. Off with Amazon's heads.
:lol:

Nobody wants it, am sure Arteta would have hated it. Club is getting a massive pay off and intelligent football people, like managers of other clubs (particularly from lower the chain), will learn a lot from it, I guess.
 

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God he’s talking about pashun within the first 20 seconds of the first episode. I only wished we had done this during Ole’s reign. The team talks would have been incredible.
Ole: "Will someone shoot for feck sake? Marcus you're 35 yards out, shoo.....nevermind, you always do. Donny, if you ever get minutes, shoot! Cath, if you're on reception, shoot!!"
 

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Just seen the first episode. Not sure why he busted out that speech for Norwich but I guess his job was on the line. Forgot how jammy even that goal was :lol:

I get the feeling they'll gloss over a lot of the negatives and focus on their good middle part of the season.
 

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Can’t really laugh at them as ours would be a lot worse if did one of these “inside” shows for us.
 

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Basically his method only works with younger players. No wonder he has to get rid of the 'big egos' in the dressing room, because they probably wont buy into his weirdness. Personalities like Saka and Smith Rowe are PERFECT for him.
 

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Basically his method only works with younger players. No wonder he has to get rid of the 'big egos' in the dressing room, because they probably wont buy into his weirdness. Personalities like Saka and Smith Rowe are PERFECT for him.
Bit of a leap that.
 

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Pretty much. They're like naive kids who will sit there and absorb anything you give them.
Long may they stay naive if they keep having double digits seasons.
Finished the third episode, Nuno looks very introverted and his mistakes clearly didnt help... Ramsdale would get on my nerves very fast. Always seems wrong to hear GK shouting and ranting about the performances of guys who just ran 15km.
 

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Long may they stay naive if they keep having double digits seasons.
Finished the third episode, Nuno looks very introverted and his mistakes clearly didnt help... Ramsdale would get on my nerves very fast. Always seems wrong to hear GK shouting and ranting about the performances of guys who just ran 15km.
Dont get me wrong, Saka is a manager's dream. Too bad you cant have a team full of Sakas.
 

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Starting of episode 3 atm and I am really loving it - would love us to have something like that soon with Manchester United also.
 

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Starting of episode 3 atm and I am really loving it - would love us to have something like that soon with Manchester United also.
if it can bring the fans on board with the manager and the players, then why not?
 

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Not interested in the slightest about anything to do with the gooners.
They are our rivals and should be treated as that.
 

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Always thought Arteta was out of his depth but after seeing this he's even worse that I thought, that bit where he draws the heart and brain is a new level of cringe!
Will be surprised if he lasts the season now there's actually pressure on him
 

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Josh Kroenke comes across well. Much better than I'd imagined, to be honest. He seems affable and genuine. Also, after his years at United, nice to actually hear Albert Stuivenberg in action. Can see why Louis brought him in.

Finally, Arteta seems like a really smart guy. I expected cringe, but I didn't really get this from this. Even the heart and brain stuff was well explained and logical for professional elite sportsmen.
 

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It's been a decent time killer so far, but I expected nothing more.

I agree some of his speeches sound cringey as feck, but it seems the players like him and buy into it which is basically his job.

It's a definite shift from the old English mentality though
 

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Said it before, this whole thing is another PR machine to show Arteta in good light. You could see the way when they lose camera focuses on players and how Arteta's cringe team talk is shown as a savior.

Honestly it's a smart move ny Arsenal. They are banking on Arteta and the best way to keep most fans buy into him is show him in good light. There is a reason even his cringefest things are shown in a positive light.

He has been backed by the club to the hilt now and this season is very important for him as well as the club. Some of their fans can pretend missing out on top 4 is fine if they achieve more points than last season but truth is it will be a massive failure and a huge egg on the club's face. You can run this PR only for some time. His PR has run for close to 3 years, now to walk the talk.
 

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Said it before, this whole thing is another PR machine to show Arteta in good light. You could see the way when they lose camera focuses on players and how Arteta's cringe team talk is shown as a savior.

Honestly it's a smart move ny Arsenal. They are banking on Arteta and the best way to keep most fans buy into him is show him in good light. There is a reason even his cringefest things are shown in a positive light.

He has been backed by the club to the hilt now and this season is very important for him as well as the club. Some of their fans can pretend missing out on top 4 is fine if they achieve more points than last season but truth is it will be a massive failure and a huge egg on the club's face. You can run this PR only for some time. His PR has run for close to 3 years, now to walk the talk.
I'm really not sure what you expected. Arteta to throw a few DDTs on Auba or rugby tackle while dressed only in a towel and baseball cap?
 

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I actually expected to hate this, find it completely cringeworthy and lose all respect for Arteta.

But it's actually really interesting, and I'm surprised by how well Arteta comes across. I still can't decide if he's a good manager, but I like the man. Compared to the out of context clips, I even thought the team talks were surprisingly inspiring...

Josh Kroenke, ơn the other hand, makes me feel sick every time he's on screen.
 

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I actually expected to hate this, find it completely cringeworthy and lose all respect for Arteta.

But it's actually really interesting, and I'm surprised by how well Arteta comes across. I still can't decide if he's a good manager, but I like the man. Compared to the out of context clips, I even thought the team talks were surprisingly inspiring...

Josh Kroenke, ơn the other hand, makes me feel sick every time he's on screen.
No doubt massively helped by some rousing strings on the soundtrack. The right music could make a man reading out his shopping list sound like the final scene of Dead Poets Society.

Maybe Arteta missed a trick when he played YAWN. Should have used the documentary soundtrack instead.
 

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No doubt massively helped by some rousing strings on the soundtrack. The right music could make a man reading out his shopping list sound like the final scene of Dead Poets Society.

Maybe Arteta missed a trick when he played YAWN. Should have used the documentary soundtrack instead.
Oh of course. I know I'm a sucker for a well produced PR piece. But my expectations were Brendan Rodgers levels of cringe, and I'm relieved that I've come out of this not thinking that Arteta is a complete idiot and charlatan.
 

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I honestly think an "inspiring" speach would be wasted on me, regardless of who was giving it. Even if it was Fergie in his pomp, although I'm sure in the moment it would be incredible but then you have to go and stand around for ages in the tunnel and start thinking about what's for dinner.
 

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I honestly think an "inspiring" speach would be wasted on me, regardless of who was giving it. Even if it was Fergie in his pomp, although I'm sure in the moment it would be incredible but then you have to go and stand around for ages in the tunnel and start thinking about what's for dinner.
I think a few words from a charismatic leader who you believe in could work quite well. Fergie and his “lads it’s Spurs” would be a classic. For a sport like rugby where they need to be at fever pitch from minute one I can see the need for a really passionate hype man (some good clips of rugby dressing room speeches over the years) but any speech involving flip charts and diagrams can get to feck, obviously.
 

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It’s pretty good. Arteta comes across well.

Nuno Tavares looks like a lonely individual though.
 

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It's interesting so far, Arteta comes across as a good person. Unfortunately though he doesn't come across as a good manager, I was shocked at how poor his team talks are, it's very David Brent. I was impressed how Jose came across in the Spurs all or nothing, tactical insight was class especially at half time. It's interesting how Arsenal take defeats, it's Ramsdale who seems to be most vocal. The rest have the head down, nobody saying anything.

Arteta will never ever, win anything significant, that's what I learned from this. He's not a top manager and rubbing hands together, getting the kit man to chat about a derby or playing YAWN at training, is ever going to be the difference in winning big honours. Oh and Josh Kroenke is a creep, so false.
 

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Arsenal done their transfer business early, same as spurs. This could prove to be an advantage to them.