To cut it short we have 2 shit goalkeepers and it's yet another reminder about what an awful appointment ETH was.
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Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) discuss United's fantastic win away against Athletic Club in the semi-final of the Europa League.
They also pick out the positives of United's 4-3 loss away at Brentford, and Nik reviews a day out at Old Trafford watching Manchester United Women qualify for the Champions League.
I'd still play him Thursday. At least it will be a surprise. With Onana, I already know the outcome.
He also cost us in the league cup. He's a terrible keeper who was a laughing stock in Turkey for his blunders.
Beyond a pretty much overhyped game against Arsenal in the cup this remains true. He's just way below the standard required. People were desperate for him to play and pretend he's got a chance of being a safe replacement for Onana, if only till the end of the season, but he's not. He's a disaster.
There's not a single strength in his game. Also mentally doesn't look like being a 2nd keeper suits him, which is a skill in itself. He looks nervy and out of practise every time he gets a start.
He's comfortably worse than Onana, which says it all. He was a bizarre purchase and has looked like that since he arrived.
Imagine scouting every goalkeeper in europe, and picking this guy. Whoever watched him surely must have seen how fragile mentally he is, and how there is zero composure from him.
And we paid money for him..
He was not even free ..
By now I think it is safe to call out we have the worst scouting and recruitment department in all of the top 5 leagues of Europe, and by a fair margin. The amount of money we have spent on dross after having every possible advantage to scour the world for the best possible players, requires a unique level of incompetence.
He looks like he would benefit from a loan. If he can’t hack one season starting for a team in the bottom half of the league with his career on the line then bin him.
As I typed that, it occurred to me that we are currently that team :-).
As I typed that, it occurred to me that we are currently that team :-).
He's shite.
Another one for the bin.
Another one for the bin.
You're joking right? He's already made two mistakes (that I can think of) with his passes that have led to goals, not to forget mutiple times he's booted the ball out of play. He's not all that better with his feet, such an overrated factor of his game.Onana, for all his many faults, is much better on the ball than people give him credit for.
Genuinely there's no way he'd make the mistake Altay did for Newcastle's fourth. He is really good on the ball under pressure.
The issue is, he'd probably have fecked up elsewhere and let in another soft goal, so we really can't win
not good enough. short passing ability is very poor, long ball distribution is also feeble, seems very very nervous which spreads to our defence. He is only tall and has physical presence. that's it.
We need to get rid of both Onana and Bayindir.
Get a VERY GOOD GK and VERY GOOD STRIKER. Splurge 100m pounds on each position if need be!!!!
We need to get rid of both Onana and Bayindir.
Get a VERY GOOD GK and VERY GOOD STRIKER. Splurge 100m pounds on each position if need be!!!!
Loans are only useful for young players with potential who would benefit from game time we can't give them. Crap players like Bayindir should just be got rid of permanently
Given enough matches any keeper will make mistakes with their passes. Point is it's a rarity for Onana.
I know it's sacrosanct to compare Onana to De Gea in a positive manner here at the moment but just look at De Gea when he was on the ball for comparison. He couldn't handle being pressed at all. Unfortunately, Altay seemed to have a similar problem against Newcastle; he didn't look comfortable on the ball at all. Onana, for all the many faults in his game, handles that aspect well by comparison.
Yeah, but for that small gain I'd rather give that up and have a keeper that does the more important parts better.
He isn't good enough, nothing shocking we all knew that. In my opinion his distribution looked better than Onana's and apart from the feck up, I think he wasn't the total car crash that I expected. I'd keep him in the line up for Lyon.
Onana has diabolical distribution too. Yeah he looks calmer under pressure and than just hoofs it without any purpose. In other words his calmness brings us feck all. Bayindir's passes yesterday had much more purpose than anything I have seen from Onana recently.
Stop trying to beat Chelsea in the "having multiple shit keepers"
We have so many, you'll never beat us in this.
We have so many, you'll never beat us in this.
Same can be said about every position at Chelsea
Wouldn't disagree with that.
Ideally, I'd like us to sign a keeper who is just comfortable all-round this summer. Similar to what Arsenal did with David Raya. He's not a particularly spectacular goalkeeper but also has no glaring weaknesses to his game.
I mean fair, I'm just going to have to steadfastly disagree with you on that one. I thought Altay's distribution was noticeably worse than Onana's yesterday. He looked nervy almost every time he was pressed, culminating in the fourth goal.
Elsewise, I thought he did fairly well though. In particular, he was really confident claiming crosses - far, far better than Onana.
Yes he looked nervy and Newcastle pressed very aggressively, not sure how was his passing stat for yesterday. The mistake was bad, other than that, he did well on other instances I agree.
Wait til we play our trump card - a 39 year old Heaton.
I don’t know who your keeper is now, I’m assuming you’ve moved on from Cech, but I find it hard to believe that your main GK is worse than Onana. I’ve never seen anything like him. It’s like having an outfield player in goal for the season.
Yeah, we really need to start looking away from the "big names". I also wouldn't be against getting Kovar back, we have a buy back for him too.
Brentford 4:3 Man Utd
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He is just so out of sync with defenders that it's just diabolical - the miscommunication with Shaw in the first minutes where the return header went just by the goal post, one or two times colliding with Fredricson...
A poor game and yet, he wasn't really at fault for any of the goals at all
Do we need a new 2nd GK as well? Bayindir did manage one very good save today but don't trust him, it all feels too shaky at the back and don't think he's organising defenders well or giving them confidence.
He's got the composure of an outfield player in goal
Onana can be terrible, but this guy doesn't even look like a keeper most of the time. I mean, what the hell was he doing for the 2nd and 3rd goal?
Nailed it. Some of the first time passes he was making out to the wingbacks were brutal.
He's okay as a no.2 but we absolutely could do better.
He's really not, can't think of a worse number 2 keeper we have had in the last 30 years. Nothing convincing about his game, lack of composure to everything he does outside of shot stopping.
I'm not sure who was responsible for his signing but he is brutal. Sows nervousness throughout the backline.
Needs to be gone regardless of what happens with Onana.
Needs to be gone regardless of what happens with Onana.
Terrible keeper. Another gift for Ten Hag.
despite everyone in the world knowing he's bad when dealing with pressure and panics, any reason why our defence passes to him a million times a game?
It's an essential part of playing out from the back. Or something.
I think we can now understand why Onana starts no matter how bad he is.
Awful keeper. No idea what the scouting department saw in him. Can’t deal with pressure, can’t pass, weak in the box.
Another dud in a squad that's full of them.
We used to have second string keepers like Henderson, Romero, Kuzczak and van der Gouw.
We used to have second string keepers like Henderson, Romero, Kuzczak and van der Gouw.
We have to unfortunately bin him off. It’s not happening.
I get how financially we dame out with psr or whatever with the sale of kovar and adding him, but why the feck did we decide on him? World full of keepers that we prob could've got on a free that are better than him