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Got a 50m Euro release clause as well.
Got a 50m Euro release clause as well.
Alternatives for Frenkie De Jong
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
Fellaini
Think he’d be excellent, perfect Matic replacement.
Dont follow the Italian league to be honest, but he looks very exciting in this clip.
Was last year his breakthrough year or has he kept a high level for long?
Do wonder why City never went for him seems the mould of a Fernandinho. He's not a household name so to speak and due to United not utilising the scouting infrastructure I'd be surprised to see the club move for him.
Nah it was 2018-2019 with Empoli, he was also best player at the AFCON in 2019 when he won it. Got the move to AC Milan and has been one of their best player since, played a key part in their serie A win last season but has had some problems last season with injury.
Fabian Ruiz would be similar to FDJ. We would still need a #6. Honestly - think I prefer Ruiz over FDJ
This guy would be my choice if de Jong doesn't want to come.
Think Florian is the most comparable player that we could get.
There is no plan B. We can remain irrational longer than Barcelona can stay solvent.
This entire thread is an affront to the devotional muppetry happening in the de Jong thread. There is no "alternative" or "plan b", so, get your hineys back into the the de Jong thread and help it pass 1k pages!
Andy Mitten has written in the GQ that for Ten Hag it's FDJ or bust. We will either buy him or the transfer won't happen and we'll spend that money on Antony imo.
Haha sorry
Maybe think about why we are absolutely refusing to have alternatives. Or why we haven’t pulled our offer.
Just imagine a scenario where he actually didn’t want to come and we maintained our current stance. Would have been mental.
The smart money says that for the £100m they’ve spent so far on Lewandowski and Raphinha, then surely someone is getting sold to balance the books, especially for Barcelona of all clubs.
And I’m currently not seeing any strong, substantial sales links outside of FDJ leaving for United. They‘re probably going to need to sell Depay too, seeing that Dembele renewed and Aubameyang is relatively new still.
And I’m currently not seeing any strong, substantial sales links outside of FDJ leaving for United. They‘re probably going to need to sell Depay too, seeing that Dembele renewed and Aubameyang is relatively new still.
I'm 100% sure that this is not true. Ten Hag himself has said when asked about De Jong that it is necessary to have "this kind of player". Should the De Jong transfer not materialize, this will still be true. United lost Pogba, and the other midfielders are of somewhat questionable quality for a top team, of course they need a technically strong central or box to box midfielder and they need him ASAP.
De Jong might be the clear first choice and the club might be willing to be very patient and insistent about him, but of course they will have alternatives on their list. Even if they're willing to wait a year for De Jong, they'll still need someone now, a "smaller" transfer.
Certainly hope so mate, I'm tired of seeing Mcfred..... so, so ,so tired.
I'm kind of serious about Neuhaus though, last summer he was in everyone's mouth but the attention has shifted after a season that had nothing but turmoil at Gladbach. His contract is up in two years, he's reportedly disappointed that Favre didn't come, now is surely a good time to get him.
I'm not even sure Frenkie is better than him.
I'm not even sure Frenkie is better than him.
I assume from your response that you don't think there are any problems and the FDJ circus we are watching is purely pre season entertainment.
I would agree with you.
Personally I think United should drop the idea of Frenkie and Anthony due to the insane price / difficulty of transfer, and go for Florian Neuhaus and Patrick Schick instead.
I hope you're right. This saga is beginning to make me yawn. Barcelona are up financial shit creek without a paddle and if they want to force FDJ out, they should also be forced to pay him his dues. I cannot understand the logic behind being able to (allegedly) fork out millions that you haven't got for players that you cannot register and then create a situation which further prevents any progress. I find it slightly incongruous that Barca are treated differently than Madrid were when they were being bailed out by banks and local government aid. "The times they are a changing" Just ask the Saudis. Anyone for golf?
Keep reading that de Jong does not want to come to OT, so why are we chasing him. If we keep on then we are in danger of unbalancing the positive vibes coming from the team. Not once has he said " I want to join United". Forget him. Move on
Doesn't make it true, does it. Most likely thing is he didn't plan to leave before this summer, but that is not the same as he doesn’t want to come here.
And now it's apparently a waiting game between him and Barca over the deferred wages from the last two seasons.
A very boring waiting game from our side of things but if he says publicly that he wants to come here then he loses his leverage over Barca.
I'm ok with the wait, as long as we don't end up panic buying Fellaini on the last day of the transfer window
Yeah, this.
ETH mentioned in his interview with Simon Stone the other day that if he can't get FDJ he will "mould another player into that role" (McT, Fred or Garner, I guess)
Great pity that Jim White won't be around on the last day of the transfer window to make a meal of this.
Fabian Ruiz, Bennacer, Koopmeiners.
He said in the same interview that he would develop that player if they could not get the player they are after.
And before that he said we have a list and only if the players on that list are unattainable do we develop the player
Which is all common sense.
Was that a general comment or did it relate to Frenkie as the one I referenced related to Frenkie?
We should go for Fabian Ruiz, probably the closest thing to de Jong style and he’d probably be halve the price aswell. Let’s not just go for the easy options and pick players in the prem just because there ‘prem proven’ I’d rather us chose players based on quality!
But can he play in the rocket science system ETH is gonna implement? Because apparently FDJ is the only midfielder on the planet that can play in the role.
I think he would be an even better fit for us as he is defensively better than Frenkie.
Fabian Ruiz should change his name into Fabian Van Ruiz. If he manages to play 2-3 games in the Dutch league then he would probably be considered as a great alternative to FDJ.
It won't be Mctominay, he lacks the basic abilities to play deeper, hence why you're seeing Fred go deeper more often. Even though it's not Fred's best role, he is still better than Scott.
Ruiz is not a holding midfielder so can't be a great alternative to de Jong.
"Alternatives for Frenkie Dejong "
"Alternatives to Frenkie Dejong"
"Alternatives to Frenkie Dejong"
Many of you misjudge Ruben Neves, considering him a pure DM.
Actually, he take the ball from the CB, going forward, always looking for a chance of long pass to either of the wingers or CF.
Arguably he is better in defensive part than De Jong.
So I think if "this kind" is the one we are looking for, then we should move for Neves.
Actually, he take the ball from the CB, going forward, always looking for a chance of long pass to either of the wingers or CF.
Arguably he is better in defensive part than De Jong.
So I think if "this kind" is the one we are looking for, then we should move for Neves.
Kevin Strootman
Neuhaus is intriguing to me, though sadly it doesn't seem like he's on our radar.