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I can't honestly picture him signing for any club that isn't from Madrid or Turin.
Good post mate. I agree with this especially the last paragraph. I don't think our players do enough of that. Hence why our attack looks disjointed and we don't create enough therefore don't score enough.Hah and I think therein lies the disconnect - United are obviously the biggest club in the country and should be truly ambitious, but you have parasitic owners happy to sign commercial deals with anyone so they can leech off bigger dividends. You should be after the likes of those you mentioned I completely agree - I just don't think it's realistic given you're looking in the bargain bin for the likes of Rabiot and Arnautovic. My general point is that Morata has been somewhat underrated here based on the posts and is a far better player than those two - I genuinely think it could be a very savvy move at the rumoured price given the state of your squad.
Yeah could see that being the case. I do think some of his mental struggles are being overstated - whilst he's openly talked about the unfortunate confluence of factors that derailed his first year at Chelsea, I do think it's being overlooked that Conte is perhaps the worst manager imaginable to play for if you're dealing with a mental health crisis and that was almost certainly an exacerbating factor.
Really though I just think his strengths would help elevate others at the club - in many ways he's the opposite of Ronaldo in terms of selfishness, workrate, ostentatiousness, hold-up play, willingness to pass, etc. Personally I never thought the Ronaldo signing made sense for you and for me letting the likes of Sancho, Bruno, and Rashford step out of Ronaldo's shadow with a player able and willing to facilitate would lift the team significantly.
What's the alternative? We're looking for a stopgap squad option, any player we look at for that role will have some limitations. Especially at this point in the window.16 pl goals in 50 games as a nr 9 in a top team is shit. Have people forgotten how bad he was in the PL?
For me, Jonathan DavidWhat's the alternative? We're looking for a stopgap squad option, any player we look at for that role will have some limitations. Especially at this point in the window.
Gakpo is the most heavily linked player at the moment and he's only played as a striker a handful of times.
Which would be fine if we had owners who were prepared to spend any kind of moneyFor me, Jonathan David![]()
Would be interesting, but I really don't think the 50-60 million I'm assuming it would take is there for a striker. There has to be a reason that everyone linked is bargain bucket. Either all the links are wrong or there is a limited budget in view of other signings.For me, Jonathan David![]()
No you’re not, you love it!!!Hilarious. Absolute bottler and about as mediocre a goal scoring record possible considering some of the clubs he's played for.
Crap just like all the players we're currently linked with baring FDJ.
Sorry to be so negative but Morata and Rabiotfeck off
This guy seems like the ultimate FFP player to me, seemingly happy just to be squad player at endless CL clubs and getting passed around on loan most seasons, forgot who even owns him currently.
Our strongest links currently are players Juventus are trying their hardest to get rid of, genuinely disgraceful. The club hierarchy should be ashamed.
I’d just realised as you sent it, 2 year loan has done me dirtyMorata isn't a Juve player.
What's the alternative? We're looking for a stopgap squad option, any player we look at for that role will have some limitations. Especially at this point in the window.
Gakpo is the most heavily linked player at the moment and he's only played as a striker a handful of times.
What a load of crap.I'd be very happy if he comes as a relatively inexpensive option. Whenever I've seen him for Spain he's impressed. His linkup play and movement is excellent. Shame about his finishing but, if he could finish he'd be incredible so that's why he's cheap. We're not going to get any top strikers so he's likely the best we can hope for. Very rarely injured too so he's a step up on Martial, whilst they could easily play together also.
Signing players that clubs above us have sold to improve their squad, in hope of closing the gap on them, makes no sense whatsoever.What a load of crap.
Have you even watched him for Chelsea? A striker that cannot finish and score, sure - sounds like a great idea.
Some opinions on this website, for fecks' sake...
Our issue right now is staying afloat before closing the gap. Outside these underwhelming options, there are not any option that not involved silly fee. The upper management failed the transfer window again with their no planning required approach.Signing players that clubs above us have sold to improve their squad, in hope of closing the gap on them, makes no sense whatsoever.
As I've said before, I'd be in favour of bringing him in on loan. That doesn't tie us down to paying a huge fee or taking on his wages in the long-term, if that was the case then perhaps I'd revise my position.Poor bugger.
Look at the position you’re in. It’s August 11th and due to the clubs inability to do anything right you’re making an argument for them to sign Alvaro Morata one of the worst strikers to ever reach the top elite level of football.
He’s absolutely rubbish. Filling the squad with crap like Morata and Rabiot will set us back years, we’ll always be looking to replace average players in a non stop loop. If the first 11 needs improving why the hell are we signing 3rd or 4th rate squad players.
Good post mate. I agree with this especially the last paragraph. I don't think our players do enough of that. Hence why our attack looks disjointed and we don't create enough therefore don't score enough.
We need to be signing a striker that we plan on using as first choice this season and in the future if we want to improve, not a short term stop gap, back up striker that nobody really wants. You’re right when you say our upper management have failed miserably, but we should be putting in a heavy investment towards a good striker, any less and we won’t improve.Our issue right now is staying afloat before closing the gap. Outside these underwhelming options, there are not any option that not involved silly fee. The upper management failed the transfer window again with their no planning required approach.
Inconsistent is quite an understatement. Morata is turning 30 and can barely score 9/10 league goals per season. He couldn’t make Serie A’s top 30 goal scorers of last season.He’s actually an excellent hold up and link-up player. Just inconsistent in front of goal and mentally weak. Considering the alternatives that the club have been looking at in previous weeks (Arnautovic); I would take him pretty swiftly at the right price.
Also, he’s definitely not worse than Martial.
Inconsistent is quite an understatement. Morata is turning 30 and can barely score 9/10 league goals per season. He couldn’t make Serie A’s top 30 goal scorers of last season.
How can anyone see these stats and think “this is a striker for United”?
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He mainly operates as RW, no?For me, Jonathan David![]()
According to here he is mainly a CFHe mainly operates as RW, no?
Ah, interesting. Every time I watched Lille’s highlights, Yilmaz seems to be the CF. David broke from right wing a lot.According to here he is mainly a CF
https://www.footballcritic.com/jonathan-david/player-positions/178654
Ah, interesting. Every time I watched Lille’s highlights, Yilmaz seems to be the CF. David broke from right wing a lot.
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I can understand the lack of links to Osmihen due to his valuation, however can't when it comes to this guy.
9 goals and 7 assists in 2311 minutes translates to a goal contribution every 144.4 minutes. So he either scored or assisted a goal roughly every game and a half.
Just for reference last year (league minutes only) -
Rashford: 4 goals 2 assists in 1233 minutes (205.5 min per G/A)
Martial: 1 goal 1 assist in 705 minutes (352.5 min per G/A)
Bruno: 10 goals 6 assists in 3120 minutes (195.0 min per G/A)
Sancho: 3 goals 3 assists in 1904 minutes (317.3 min per G/A)
Ronaldo: 18 goals 3 assists in 2459 minutes (117.1 min per G/A)
Genuinely don't understand why Morata's record is somehow horrible given this context.
Morata scored 1 goal every 256 minutes in 2022-Serie A. This is not the 90s Serie A and not the current PL. This is one of the highest-scoring leagues in Europe over the last few years. Every decent striker playing for a top-half team should be scoring 15+ goals there, no excuses. And that's what most of them are doing. 30 players in Serie A scored more than him last season. Nobody is asking him to bang in 20+ as Vlahovic, Lautaro and Immobile do. Not even asking him to get the Abragam, Osimhen, Simeone numbers at around 15+.
But why can't he beat random nobodies like Pinamonti, Arnautovic, Delofeu ? Because he is a mediocre striker and he has always been.
Rashford and Martial being crap don't absolve Morata... And shouldn't be relevant in this discussion. Sancho is 22. He is on another level and he's shown it before with BVB, he will be brillant in a system that works.