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Whether we play with wide forwards or not has no relevance to Amad’s best position.

He’s best in attacking areas out wide.

It absolutely does matter to Amorim that he can defend, hence why a) he rarely plays him there and b) he starts 90% of matches with two defensive players at WB.

From memory that wasn’t how Sunderland used him. He did a lot of his best work for them in central areas. He’s definitely not a player who can only contribute with chalk on his boots.
 
Got decent heading considering his height. His goal today reminded me a bit of his first goal against Milan of the bench.
 
He's best used as a right sided no. 10. None of this RWB nonsense, I hope. The best attacking players need to be close to goal
 
I think his current skillset is ultimately going to be best suited to a wide forward in a 4-3-3. Will need to develop his passing/crossing to add extra elements to his game, good at the little short interplay moments and 1 2's but adding that extra threat to his game as a creative passer will be the challenge for him.
 
Personally like him at RWB, it means another forward looking player on the pitch.
Also he is quite good there, has more space and players cant 2v1 against RWB. If we can get a proper no 10 ahead of him it could really trouble oppositions. Cherki and Amad would be a joy to watch on the right.
 
He’s definitely more productive when he plays RWB than the right sided 10. This may change in time but right now that’s his best position for us. It’s easy to see that when he plays there.
 
People who want him to play wing back are amazing. Imagine if Real Madrid and Totrenham continued to use Bale on left back because he looked better there in some games :lol:

Imagine ruining and blocking such a potential forward player who likes to score goals like that and make him defend for more than half a game.
 
People who want him to play wing back are amazing. Imagine if Real Madrid and Totrenham continued to use Bale on left back because he looked better there in some games :lol:

Imagine ruining and blocking such a potential forward player who likes to score goals like that and make him defend for more than half a game.
He won't be defending for more than half a game. That is your mistake.
 
He won't be defending for more than half a game. That is your mistake.

Yeah, I am sure when we play the likes of City/Liverpool next season and we play him on wingback he will be scoring goals and spend most of the game in opposition third. Because that's the position where you put your kost talented forward.

I aam surprised Barca aren't using Yamal there because he has more space to dribble from that position and opposition don't press him there too much.
 
People who want him to play wing back are amazing. Imagine if Real Madrid and Totrenham continued to use Bale on left back because he looked better there in some games :lol:

Imagine ruining and blocking such a potential forward player who likes to score goals like that and make him defend for more than half a game.
Do you have a problem with The System, unbeliever?
 
People who want him to play wing back are amazing. Imagine if Real Madrid and Totrenham continued to use Bale on left back because he looked better there in some games :lol:

Imagine ruining and blocking such a potential forward player who likes to score goals like that and make him defend for more than half a game.
In this formation he’d be expected to be one of the top 3 or 4 attacking players I’d have thought from RWB. We’d need one of the wingbacks to be pushing forward most of the time otherwise what’s the point of them.

Plus he’s no Gareth Bale let’s be honest.
 
Do you have a problem with The System, unbeliever?

I don't care about the system, no. But I don't want to play our most talented forward player in a position that is so far away from the goal.
 
Yeah, I am sure when we play the likes of City/Liverpool next season and we play him on wingback he will be scoring goals and spend most of the game in opposition third. Because that's the position where you put your kost talented forward.

I aam surprised Barca aren't using Yamal there because he has more space to dribble from that position and opposition don't press him there too much.
That's the intention, absolutely. We plan on adding three new forwards to the team. Pretty obvious where we intend for Amad to play.
 
That's the intention, absolutely. We plan on adding three new forwards to the team. Pretty obvious where we plan on Amad playing.

I don't think what we did and what we showed this season is a good argument that doing something like that is a succesful way forward. Because playing 2 forward/winger players on one side hasn't generally been something that's been very common thing in football history, let alone succesful tactics.
 
Where do you think Pep Guardiola would play him, in Bernardo Silva's position, or Walker's position?
As Walker plays full back and not wing back it’s not a like for like swap is it. And Amad hasn’t shown he can be as good a passer and midfield hub as Silva.

He might get there but for me he’s better wider than centrally.
 
I think to get away with Amad as a wingback for a full season, you need 3 truly dominant defenders. United have only Yoro who fit that description in the squad, and another potential in Heaven. Both are still very young and developing, so playing him there next season will still depend very much on the opponent.
 
Playing RWB means we can get another attack minded player in the team. Given our lack of goals I can't see how that wouldn't be a good thing. Imagine an Mbuemo infront of him
I rather have a new RWB as he needs to be as close to the goal as possible
 
I don't think what we did and what we showed this season is a good argument that doing something like that is a succesful way forward. Because playing 2 forward/winger players on one side hasn't generally been something that's been very common thing in football history, let alone succesful tactics.
So you'd much rather a player at wing-back who is far more limited going forward than Amad, for the sake of balance?
 
So you'd much rather a player at wing-back who is far more limited going forward than Amad, for the sake of balance?

No, my point was never about the system or about the balance. It's about ruining Amad's potential playing him in a position that he is too talented to play. We should be looking how to free him up from defensive responsibilities, and not add him more.
 
Playing RWB means we can get another attack minded player in the team. Given our lack of goals I can't see how that wouldn't be a good thing. Imagine an Mbuemo infront of him
Imagine a half decent WB next to him to create space for him and give an option to work the ball.
He was playing there when he scored today, before that he was pretty average.
He wasn't particularly special later on, he just had two very decisive scenes. He will obviously find more space out wide but he will also be further away from goal. It is good, that he is able to switch, but longterm I think, it would be a huge mistake, to waste the player with the most game intelligence (probably in the whole squad) and the best dribbler out wide. He struggles as a 10 because we aren't working the ball well and opposition has an easy time grouping up on him. Just imagine a wide player like Valencia who bombs down the right wing next to him, pulling opposition away.
I rather have a new RWB as he needs to be as close to the goal as possible
Same here. I could live with him being played out wide for one more year even though I think, that is a risk given that I think he simply has to play more centrally given his ability on the ball. I don't deny that he looks better at RWB than Maz and Dalot but I mean, thats a pretty low bar since both of them are probably not even above average in terms of attacking contribution.
 
Amad isn’t a wing back. He can play there to cover he’s too good to have far from goal.

Him and Cunha will be the 10s.

I’d like us to go for someone like Tony Valencia in his prime for RWB. An absolute physical beast.
 
No, my point was never about the system or about the balance. It's about ruining Amad's potential playing him in a position that he is too talented to play. We should be looking how to free him up from defensive responsibilities, and not add him more.
He isn't too talented to play there. People need to get over this idea of wing-back being a defensive role. It isn't. Amad at wing-back is basically cheating. I can't imagine that there is a better wing-back in world football.
 
Amad isn’t a wing back. He can play there to cover he’s too good to have far from goal.

Him and Cunha will be the 10s.

I’d like us to go for someone like Tony Valencia in his prime for RWB. An absolute physical beast.
If we pursue three starters for the 10 positions/striker, then Amad will be at wing-back.
 
Imagine a half decent WB next to him to create space for him and give an option to work the ball.

He wasn't particularly special later on, he just had two very decisive scenes. He will obviously find more space out wide but he will also be further away from goal. It is good, that he is able to switch, but longterm I think, it would be a huge mistake, to waste the player with the most game intelligence (probably in the whole squad) and the best dribbler out wide. He struggles as a 10 because we aren't working the ball well and opposition has an easy time grouping up on him. Just imagine a wide player like Valencia who bombs down the right wing next to him, pulling opposition away.

Same here. I could live with him being played out wide for one more year even though I think, that is a risk given that I think he simply has to play more centrally given his ability on the ball. I don't deny that he looks better at RWB than Maz and Dalot but I mean, thats a pretty low bar since both of them are probably not even above average in terms of attacking contribution.
Well if we ever get a player like that and start to play like a team who can actually play this formation well consistently he may be able to play there.

For now, I’ll still argue he’s better suited to an attacking RWB position.

People say he should be played as close to goal as possible, but we’re not doing that for Bruno who keeps getting moved back as we need him in CM also. Bruno and Cunha if we get him should be our 10s next season and we should get the CM sorted before we spend on a RWB.
 
As long as we're stuck with Amorim and his system, I think Amad's future has to be in the RWB position.
 
I don't disagree but I'm not sure who that player is whereas I think Amad behind someone like Mbuemo could give us a seriously scary threat down the right and pin the opposition back
I'd say it is probably easier to find and bring in a fullback'y player who is really good at contributing to attack since Mbeumo would cost quite a bit of money so the scope is quite big.
He isn't too talented to play there. People need to get over this idea of wing-back being a defensive role. It isn't. Amad at wing-back is basically cheating. I can't imagine that there is a better wing-back in world football.
What?! How can you say that? I mean, the guy plays his first real season in top flight football.
I don't think it is a good idea to a) hype him up like that and b) be so absolute in terms of positions. I also think you are wrong about the wingback not being a defensive role. The thing with the wingback position is that it is both an attacking position as well as a defensive position. Alex Sandro was good at it for Juve because he contributes on both sides of the pitch. Quenda did well for Amorim there but not just because his attacking output was so good, but because he brought the tenacity and workrate with him to be where he should be against the ball. Thats not me saying that Amad can't do a job there, maybe even a pretty good one. But he is our best dribbler, the player who is the best in tight spaces, he is also calm under pressure and generally pretty smart on the ball. Such a player should be made use of more centrally. If it turns out, it doesn't work, fine, but just sticking him there because he is better than Mazraoui or Dalot would do him a disservice. I guess, he'd look good in central midfield as well. Given the listed qualities he has.
Well if we ever get a player like that and start to play like a team who can actually play this formation well consistently he may be able to play there.

For now, I’ll still argue he’s better suited to an attacking RWB position.

People say he should be played as close to goal as possible, but we’re not doing that for Bruno who keeps getting moved back as we need him in CM also. Bruno and Cunha if we get him should be our 10s next season and we should get the CM sorted before we spend on a RWB.
Well, I see and fair enough. I think, we see things very differently, for Amad and for Bruno. But each to their own.
 
What?! How can you say that? I mean, the guy plays his first real season in top flight football.
I don't think it is a good idea to a) hype him up like that and b) be so absolute in terms of positions. I also think you are wrong about the wingback not being a defensive role. The thing with the wingback position is that it is both an attacking position as well as a defensive position. Alex Sandro was good at it for Juve because he contributes on both sides of the pitch. Quenda did well for Amorim there but not just because his attacking output was so good, but because he brought the tenacity and workrate with him to be where he should be against the ball. Thats not me saying that Amad can't do a job there, maybe even a pretty good one. But he is our best dribbler, the player who is the best in tight spaces, he is also calm under pressure and generally pretty smart on the ball. Such a player should be made use of more centrally. If it turns out, it doesn't work, fine, but just sticking him there because he is better than Mazraoui or Dalot would do him a disservice. I guess, he'd look good in central midfield as well. Given the listed qualities he has.
I don't think it's a particularly controversial thing to say. There isn't a more naturally talented footballer than Amad who currently plays as a wing-back. Amad is capable of playing centrally, but it's in the wide areas where he causes havoc. He can come inside from there and play short, snappy, incisive passes.

The wing-back role is an attacking position under Amorim. That's where the progression comes from. Ball playing defenders, progressive ball carrying from the wing-backs and goals/assists from the tens. Amad is a tremendous asset as a wing-back. A truly unique additional threat.
 
People who want him to play wing back are amazing. Imagine if Real Madrid and Totrenham continued to use Bale on left back because he looked better there in some games :lol:

Imagine ruining and blocking such a potential forward player who likes to score goals like that and make him defend for more than half a game.
Crazy.
 
Amad plays well in spite of being at wing back, not because of it. You play your best attacking players close to goal.
 
Amad plays well in spite of being at wing back, not because of it. You play your best attacking players close to goal.
So if we buy Cunha, who’s the best attacking 2 players, Bruno, Cunha or Amad?

By most arguments on here you play your best attacking players close to goal, so Bruno would be a nailed on 10 yeah???
 
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