[Irwin99]

I know so many people on here want him to be the wingback but just supposing he isn’t being considered for that role, he might end up being back up for the two 10 positions. Either that or Cunha might play as a false 9 some games?

Probably not looking great for Mason Mount either. Obviously injuries will happen and players will get chances but there’s a lot of competition for those two positions, especially with no European football.

 

[Mcking]

Him, Cunha, and Mbeumo should rotate for the attacking midfield positions behind the striker, with Zirkzee the other option. I'm confident he has the ability to also play comfortably on Cunha's side. I'm really not having him for a full season at wingback. Many seem to be ignoring the defensive aspect of that position.

 

[El Jefe]

Competition is good. Amad has no divine right to start and neither should Mbeumo.

 

[Skills]

We signed Amad Diallo for £20m + £20m bonuses back in 2020 thanks to Murtough.

Since then we've spent £75m on Sancho in his position, £80m on Antony in his position - maybe this times the charm and we end up someone not inferior?

 

[Ezkay]

Another one that’s not got over the fact Amorim will be here and starting the season with us. And it’s quite sad you’d want him gone by November as that means you want the team to be doing Awful. What a terrible fan

I didn’t say I want us doing bad. Clubs can be proactive and make changes before it’s too late. I think we’ll be in and around the top 5 next season with the quality we’re bringing in and 1 game a week. He’s not the right man however

 

[Cassidy]

We signed Amad Diallo for £20m + £20m bonuses back in 2020 thanks to Murtough.

Since then we've spent £75m on Sancho in his position, £80m on Antony in his position - maybe this times the charm and we end up someone not inferior?

Or we don't sign Mbuemo and we're an Amad injury from being shit again

 

[Bebe]

Or we don't sign Mbuemo and we're an Amad injury from being shit again

This is where I'd rather us look for a lower cost option to compete with and/or backup Amad. It's difficult to understand spending 50m on a player who is, at best, as good as what we currently have in his position.

 

[Cassidy]

This is where I'd rather us look for a lower cost option to compete with and/or backup Amad. It's difficult to understand spending 50m on a player who is, at best, as good as what we currently have in his position.

"At best as good as" I think some United fans overrate our players. Mbuemo has been consistently good for 3 seasons

 

[Rockets Redglare]

This is where I'd rather us look for a lower cost option to compete with and/or backup Amad. It's difficult to understand spending 50m on a player who is, at best, as good as what we currently have in his position.

Mbeumo is miles better than anyone we have for the 10 position, as is Cunha.

Amad is a good player but he’s massively overrated on here.

 

[Mainoonited]

At Manchester United we've always had top level competition for places. It's important for successful teams. If we get in Mbuemo he'll have to fight for his place as will Amad. They'll either raise thier games or one will sulk. We need game raisers.

 

[Bebe]

"At best as good as" I think some United fans overrate our players. Mbuemo has been consistently good for 3 seasons

Fair, but Amad is 22 and inexplicably wasn't used by our previous manager. I think he's better than Mbuemo at just about everything except physical strength. None of that changes Mbuemo being a very good player and well suited to Amorim's tactics.

 

[Cassidy]

Fair, but Amad is 22 and inexplicably wasn't used by our previous manager. I think he's better than Mbuemo at just about everything except physical strength. None of that changes Mbuemo being a very good player and well suited to Amorim's tactics.

You might think that but, in reality it would just be yet another gamble on an inexperienced young player who has not shown the consistency and output we need to get to where we want.
It would make zero sense to add another young inexperienced player as his backup

 

[RuudTom83]

On paper Cunha, Mbuemo and Amad could all start in the same team, especially for Home games.

But I understand those that are saying all 3 is a bit OTT for one summer. But once a few of the rejects on loan find new clubs it will become a clearer and more balanced.

 

[Amar__]

Wing back with Mazraoui at RCB is really more like a normal RM role in a 4-4-2. He'll be fine. Yeah during some games we'll go Dalot instead of Amad, but Amorim has called that a winger role quite often and he wants that position to push forward lots more than what we saw.

No, it's not, some of you shouldn't be lying to yourself. In 442 we had people like Nani and Giggs playing as wingers, and now we have signed to Dorgu play there who is obviously player who relies more on athleticsm than technique and skill. It's obviously not the same position and it doesn't require same type of players, and it's far more defensive position in general.

It's basically death of Amad as a potential world class forward player, if he ever had the chance to become that.

 

[TwoSheds]

No, it's not, some of you shouldn't be lying to yourself. In 442 we had people like Nani and Giggs playing as wingers, and now we have signed to Dorgu play there who is obviously player who relies more on athleticsm than technique and skill. It's obviously not the same position and it doesn't require same type of players, and it's far more defensive position in general.

It's basically death of Amad as a potential world class forward player, if he ever had the chance to become that.

The drama.

 

[Hip Hop]

With Cunha, Mbuemo and a new striker, we’ll instil huge fear straight away, teams will be more cautious coming at us. They will sit back a lot more so we’ll spend the majority of the game in their half, Amad as a wingback make total sense in that case.

That’s why I lean more towards strikers like Mateta, Schick or Mitrovic instead of Gyokeres who may struggle against a low block.

 

[Brightonian]

The wingback must be a skilful winger type in this system. I'm amazed how many want a glorified fullback there. A WB who can beat or threaten to beat his man 1-on-1 up against the touchline is the difference between a totally toothless system where you literally can't get the ball out of your own half, and a dangerous one where you break in the wide areas and can quickly have 6 'attackers' pressing into the oppo half.

 

[pacifictheme]

My only concern with amad at wingback is when he did play there we got badly exposed down his side. Can't remember the game.

I do think we need stacking wingbacks though, with less expansive midfielders to protect the defence. A bit like Liverpool did where their front 3 and fullbacks attacked, and their midfield was there to destroy and protect the back two.

 

[FrankWhite]

Unpopular opinion, love Amad but he won't be a starter next year. It'll be Dalot at RWB and Mbeumo at RAM.

He'll still get plenty of minutes and will start against teams we expect to play a low block against us. Problem is, the EPL is now full of mid table teams, of which we are one until we prove ourselves to be better.

If we're chasing a game, he'll be the automatic sub for Dalot. He'll also play RAM in the cup games. Like I said, plenty of minutes.

Edit: just read the thread, apparently not such an unpopular opinion.

 

[Brightonian]

My only concern with amad at wingback is when he did play there we got badly exposed down his side. Can't remember the game.

I do think we need stacking wingbacks though, with less expansive midfielders to protect the defence. A bit like Liverpool did where their front 3 and fullbacks attacked, and their midfield was there to destroy and protect the back two.

It really was just one game, and it was Sulemana for Southampton. Had more to do with one of Yoro's first starts and both his and Amad's positioning were off because both were still learning Amorim's game. It wasn't ever really repeated. Overall we didn't look less defensively solid with Amad there than with Dalot. The much higher risk for the opposition player that Amad will skin him is at least as good a defensive quality as being a natural FB.

 

[UpWithRivers]

I know so many people on here want him to be the wingback but just supposing he isn’t being considered for that role, he might end up being back up for the two 10 positions. Either that or Cunha might play as a false 9 some games?

Probably not looking great for Mason Mount either. Obviously injuries will happen and players will get chances but there’s a lot of competition for those two positions, especially with no European football.

I know Mbuemo is a midget but he has played CF and RM. I think thats another bonus that Amorim likes. Players that can play multiple positions. Cunha can play 10 or Striker. Mbuemo can play 10 striker or heck maybe swap with Amad on the wingback position sometimes. Mount can play as an 8 or either 10. We can have a fluid attack, shifting positions, hopefully

 

[Ollie Derbyshire]

How can people not be happy with the potential signing of Mbeumo? Amad will still get his chances in the team at RWB or R10. We are desperate for goals. Amad hasn’t shown he can either stay fit for a whole season or is clinical enough to get close to 20 goals.

Either rotating the 10s with one rested or Cunha or Mbeumo playing the false 9 at times will give Amad plenty of opportunities also all the best teams have fierce competition for places, if this doesn’t kick Amad on further then he shouldn’t be here.

 

[Valencia Shin Crosses]

How can people not be happy with the potential signing of Mbeumo? Amad will still get his chances in the team at RWB or R10. We are desperate for goals. Amad hasn’t shown he can either stay fit for a whole season or is clinical enough to get close to 20 goals.

Either rotating the 10s with one rested or Cunha or Mbeumo playing the false 9 at times will give Amad plenty of opportunities also all the best teams have fierce competition for places, if this doesn’t kick Amad on further then he shouldn’t be here.

You realize Mbuemo and Amad have pretty similar xG outperformance right? Saying a player (in his first full season in the PL) hasn't shown he's clinical enough to get close to 20 goals is pretty hilarious as if we watched Amad spoon chances far and wide like a certain other young winger at the club for 2 years straight.

 

[Ollie Derbyshire]

You realize Mbuemo and Amad have pretty similar xG outperformance right? Saying a player (in his first full season in the PL) hasn't shown he's clinical enough to get close to 20 goals is pretty hilarious as if we watched Amad spoon chances far and wide like a certain other young winger at the club for 2 years straight.

haha no need to bring Garnacho into it, I know it's some sort of fetish for some on here.

Mbuemo is a better player than Amad right now. I'm not fussed about xG this xG that, if we buy him he'll improve the first 11, that's the bottom line, Amad moving to RWB improves the first 11 in my opinion so for me it actually strengthens us in two key areas.

If people are worried about Amad being challenged for his place in the team then boo hoo, if he's as good as we all hope and improves more next year and puts Mbeumo on the bench, we'll still be in a better position than we are now.

Some people are just never happy no matter who we buy.

 

[ThanksBoss26]

haha no need to bring Garnacho into it, I know it's some sort of fetish for some on here.

Mbuemo is a better player than Amad right now. I'm not fussed about xG this xG that, if we buy him he'll improve the first 11, that's the bottom line, Amad moving to RWB improves the first 11 in my opinion so for me it actually strengthens us in two key areas.

If people are worried about Amad being challenged for his place in the team then boo hoo, if he's as good as we all hope and improves more next year and puts Mbeumo on the bench, we'll still be in a better position than we are now.

Some people are just never happy no matter who we buy.

Agree with this on Amad.

 

[Valencia Shin Crosses]

haha no need to bring Garnacho into it, I know it's some sort of fetish for some on here.

Mbuemo is a better player than Amad right now. I'm not fussed about xG this xG that, if we buy him he'll improve the first 11, that's the bottom line, Amad moving to RWB improves the first 11 in my opinion so for me it actually strengthens us in two key areas.

If people are worried about Amad being challenged for his place in the team then boo hoo, if he's as good as we all hope and improves more next year and puts Mbeumo on the bench, we'll still be in a better position than we are now.

Some people are just never happy no matter who we buy.

When did I say anything about being upset we bought Mbuemo? I'm thrilled, the more quality attackers the better considering how abysmal we were going forward this year. I was just pointing out that saying Amad "hasn't proven to be clinical enough" when he's played 1 season and actually was pretty clinical with the chances he got was a strange thing to state.

 

[Ollie Derbyshire]

When did I say anything about being upset we bought Mbuemo? I'm thrilled, the more quality attackers the better considering how abysmal we were going forward this year. I was just pointing out that saying Amad "hasn't proven to be clinical enough" when he's played 1 season and actually was pretty clinical with the chances he got was a strange thing to state.

You didn’t but others did.

Yeah maybe I was in a harsh mood when I posted that ! What I meant I guess was he’s been injured a fair bit and not shown to be a goal scorer like Mbuemo yet. So having both will be amazing. If it happens.

 

[Valencia Shin Crosses]

You didn’t but others did.

Yeah maybe I was in a harsh mood when I posted that ! What I meant I guess was he’s been injured a fair bit and not shown to be a goal scorer like Mbuemo yet. So having both will be amazing. If it happens.

Cunha, Mateta/Gyokeres, Mbuemo, Amad with Bruno creating from deeper SHOULD be one of the best attacks in the league. Whether it all comes together is another thing. Fingers crossed it works.

 

[USREDEVIL]

The drama.

Someone is dying, what did you expect.

 

[Ollie Derbyshire]

Cunha, Mateta/Gyokeres, Mbuemo, Amad with Bruno creating from deeper SHOULD be one of the best attacks in the league. Whether it all comes together is another thing. Fingers crossed it works.

Yeah agreed, praying Amorim can get us playing some good football after all these years!

 

[Dominos]

I'm not overly concerned about his game time as long as we don't give sympathy games to players like Mount and Zirkzee where they start as a #10.

If we wanted all of Cunha, Mbuemo and Amad to start 30 PL games next season for example. We could do that by giving Cunha 30 starts as a #10, Mbuemo 30 starts as a #10, Amad 16 starts as a #10 and then another 14 starts at RWB.

I think we'll just have to see if we can get away with Mbuemo playing left 10 occasionally.

This will become less of an issue when we have European football again so there's more games to go around.

However, I still don't like the system really, feels like we're sticking Amad at RWB because we don't have anyone else and we've not seen him tested defensively over 38 games to see if it actually costs us which it may do. I am coming round to him in that position though as he does seem to get a lot of space in this system in that position and you want your best players being given that sort of space, I think he can still be one of the best attacking players in the league from that position.

If Amorim doesn't work out and we end up playing 433/4231 then buying Mbuemo to replace our current best attacker is weird squad building.

 

[TRUE NUMBER 9]

IF they can get the deal done for Mbeumo, we will likely see Amad as the starting RWB right? I like the idea as he plays his best football when he has lots of green space ahead of him, rather than going up against CBs in close quarters. Should they feel the need for a more defensive approach at RWB for certain games, Diogo Dalot can fill that role with Amad a nice bench option if things start to go norks up.

 

[Hit It]

I'm happy with him being at rwb, rm rw, rf it doesn't matter. For years its been cursed position and we finally have someone who offers a threat down that side of the pitch, we should be grateful. My only concern is if he gets injured we have to downgrade to Dalot and that means we will be less potent in attack, just my opinion.

 

[Berbasbullet]

I'm happy with him being at rwb, rm rw, rf it doesn't matter. For years its been cursed position and we finally have someone who offers a threat down that side of the pitch, we should be grateful. My only concern is if he gets injured we have to downgrade to Dalot and that means we will be less potent in attack, just my opinion.

Meh Dalot is decent second choice, when you lose first choice it always gets worse.

 

[MrBest]

It feels like for the first time in a while, we are finally ideating over potential competition. If amad has to sit on bench because Mbeumo and Cunah are on fire, sounds good to me and vice versa. Too many players over the years are too comfortable that they will always start with half of them being under 23. Amad appears humble with a good head on his shoulders, this will only motivate him.

 

[Skills]

It feels like for the first time in a while, we are finally ideating over potential competition. If amad has to sit on bench because Mbeumo and Cunah are on fire, sounds good to me and vice versa. Too many players over the years are too comfortable that they will always start with half of them being under 23. Amad appears humble with a good head on his shoulders, this will only motivate him.

Erm, what about the 2 years he spent sitting behind Antony? Or the fact that we bought him, then the following summer we spent £70m on another RW (Sancho) and then another £80m on another RW (Antony).

Our player development is fecking dogshit because we buy a player because we like the idea of their potential, bottle it when it comes to actually developing them by giving them adequate gametime and then quickly sign another expensive more experienced option in their place. We've repeated this year after year, and then sat there gormlessly wandering why aren't playing developing without proper gametime.

 

[TwoSheds]

Erm, what about the 2 years he spent sitting behind Antony? Or the fact that we bought him, then the following summer we spent £70m on another RW (Sancho) and then another £80m on another RW (Antony).

Our player development is fecking dogshit because we buy a player because like the idea of their potential, bottle it when it comes to actually developing them by giving them adequate gametime and then quickly sign another expensive more experienced option in their place. We've repeated this year after year, and then sat their gormlessly wandering why aren't playing developing without proper gametime.

I think the point would be that he would only be dropped or appearing off the bench if the guys starting are on fire. Genuine high level competition for places as opposed to "who's been least shit in the last couple of weeks?" I'm really hoping it will be the case whoever ends up getting the nod in the starting lineups, it's been far too long since it's happened to us.

 

[FrankWhite]

I think the point would be that he would only be dropped or appearing off the bench if the guys starting are on fire. Genuine high level competition for places as opposed to "who's been least shit in the last couple of weeks?" I'm really hoping it will be the case whoever ends up getting the nod in the starting lineups, it's been far too long since it's happened to us.

I'm completely on board with this. In Cunha and Mbeumo, we'll have two proven players, used to shouldering the match winner responsibility for their respective teams. This should be the minimum expectation of our attackers. That's how you set the standard.

 

[MrBest]

Erm, what about the 2 years he spent sitting behind Antony? Or the fact that we bought him, then the following summer we spent £70m on another RW (Sancho) and then another £80m on another RW (Antony).

Our player development is fecking dogshit because we buy a player because we like the idea of their potential, bottle it when it comes to actually developing them by giving them adequate gametime and then quickly sign another expensive more experienced option in their place. We've repeated this year after year, and then sat there gormlessly wandering why aren't playing developing without proper gametime.

Firstly i think you missed the point i was making - competition is really good and for once feels like we have genuine competition.

On the Amad case, I hear you. Ten Hag came out and said he didnt play Amad because he was too small, I also do not agree. Amad has also had bad luck, getting injured at the start of the season a few times. Either way, we are on new path now, Amad will have plenty of time because he is a baller but back to my point, competition will hopefully make him better.

 

[quadrant]

I'm content with Amad's role next season, even if we get Mbeumo. He's 22, but he still only has about 50 career starts and half a season at the highest level. If he splits his appearances across RWB and number 10, with a mix of starts and subs, then he could finish the season with something like 30 starts and 40 total appearances, if he stays injury free. That would still be another step up in his career development.