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In the latest edition of the United Hour Podcast, Imran (@Annihilate Now!) & Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to discuss disappointed FA Cup exit at the hands of Brighton - confirming our shortest season in over 100 years. They also discuss the news that Michael Carrick is set to be United's manager until the end of the season.
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No he wasn't, he was pretty poor in a lot of games leading towards his benching. But Garnacho and Rashford were also not doing enough for him to be excluded for a month, I think ETH reverted back to what he trusted from last season seeing as Amad didn't nail down a starter spot.
You can see he’s a baller and did some really beautiful things on the pitch today. I’ll probably get attacked but I just don’t think he can replicate that in the PL out on the right.
That’s not to say he can’t be a contributor but I think to maximise team potential I’d like to see him be developed as a central player and us get a fast and powerful wide player.
That’s not to say he can’t be a contributor but I think to maximise team potential I’d like to see him be developed as a central player and us get a fast and powerful wide player.
Yeah I think people are confusing those of us who have been banging the table for Amad as saying “he’s world class or a potential superstar” when in reality we are just saying “he’s our best option this year And has the most potential at that spot”.
Like I said to someone else, bring in Yamal or Salah tomorrow and you wouldn’t hear a peep out of me talking about how Amad is getting screwed.
It fascinates me to see the contrast of fan opinions and how clueless some of our own fans can be. Thank you for reminding me.
He literally won our player of the month, what are you on about. I didn’t say he lit the league on fire, just that he was the best of a poor attack in majority of games
Absolutely sensational timing. Aged really well within the same night.
I’m just gonna throw the thread on ignore because if people can’t see it I can’t be bothered to try and show them.
How someone can watch Amad and think “yeah this is just Antony level” boggles my fecking mind. Better carrying, better take on threat, better crosser, better finisher, better decision maker, more two footed, and quicker. But sure he’s equal to Antony
Garnacho also won our player of the month. So what are you on about 'comfortably the best of a bad bunch'
They were all average to shit.
For anyone to come to the conclusion that Amad is the same level as Antony, it beggars belief. These people must honestly watch matches with their eyes closed.
Remnants of ten Hag who disliked him as well. I think people will start warming to him under Amorim.
He's basically what Antony was meant to be.
Ten Hag didn't dislike him - that's an absolute myth.
I don't understand the posters who don't like Amad though.
There’s people genuinely posting in this thread saying he actually is what Antony is!
Complete madness that ETH thought it was a better idea to play Mazraoui at no. 10 instead of Amad. In any game, any ground it’s madness.
i actually dont know how Garnacho is rated higher than him. Maybe he needs more cocky celebrations to get his profile up.
Quality player. Needs some actual coaching now and he will flourish
Don't get why it seems a few people just dislike the guy.
Don't get why it seems a few people just dislike the guy.
Our treatment of this guy has been bizarre. When you consider how poor our forward players usually are, his lack of playing time has been a joke. It's not just Rashford but just as an example because of him being a bigger name, there is absolutely no reason at all that he should be playing instead of Amad other than his reputation and wage, let's be honest.
He's exactly the sort of player we need in our team if we want to play better football. Start playing him FFS.
He's exactly the sort of player we need in our team if we want to play better football. Start playing him FFS.
The new system should be perfect for him, then.
That must have been the deciding reason to sack him
The 2nd goal will get all the plaudits but honestly that was a great header for his 1st. He puts the power on the ball to loop up over the keeper and defender and has enough finesse to direct it into the far side of the net. Lovely stuff.
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It's not a league thing necessarily. Obviously EPL is generally harder than this group stage but it's about who's stretching the field opposite side. Rashford cripples our pressing and ability to stretch the field.
Amad with Garnacho is our best pairing.
Not talking about Amad, but in general the Academy players from United have been overrated by our fan base. Like alot...
Lets hope the young guys will make it big this time.
Academy players also get far more leash and grace from the fan base. Which makes sense but can also be frustrating when it comes to forming a top level squad and discerning who is up to scratch.
I also just think United fans don’t tend to be as impressed by near technical players as they are a physical/athletic type, even if the former is far often better than the latter for the team. Even Mainoo gets shit for not being super quick, whereas I don’t even think about his pace as remotely an issue or something that I hope he develops as a priority. It would be nice if he gets quicker, but he’s already very powerful in duels for a teenager and a brilliant dribbler who doesn’t struggle to take players on. Id rather he develop more variety to his passing, particularly with regards to penetrative passes and creating chances from deeper ranges (long balls, crosses etc).
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I’d like to see Amad and Mainoo as the 2 10s behind the striker. They are our 2 most technical players and the only one’s who really take care of the ball
if he can work as hard as today, he will always be in contention. That second goals should be shown to whoever is trying to establish as a United player. Hard work & aggression matched with talent. I have no doubt he will be a great player if he can maintain that.
Hopefully Ruud and Ruben can wake up that in our players..
Hopefully Ruud and Ruben can wake up that in our players..
He's tidy as feck. All that's missing is that explosiveness, but I'm not sure if that would hinder his agility
To be fair, I’ve watched a fair few of the games this season with my eyes closed.
But seriously, I was critical towards the latest games from Amad just earlier this week, and I’m delighted he showed me wrong today. Barring a 20 min spell or so he was maybe our best player offensively and simultaneously defensively. The second goal summed up his performance perfectly. Hat’s off!
Every match I watch him Amad play, I remember him take on a man at least 2/3 times per game.
I honestly struggle to remember Antony take on a man that many times in 3 years never mind in one match!
The commentary team said Amad currently has the 7th highest progressive runs in the whole of Europe. That is pretty amazing considering he’s barely even played recently.
(No idea why Robbie Savage found it weird he was “only 7th”. Darren Fletcher had to explain to him there are actually a lot of players in Europe, hence why it’s impressive.)
Ten Hag played Omari Forson over him… not sure it’s debatable at all that he didn’t rate Amad (not surprising considering ETH had some of the worst talent ID I’ve ever seen from a manager)
Good performance tonight. Started off brightly and should have won a penalty but then completely went off the boil for the remainder of the first half with some odd decision making. Well directed header for his first goal, surprisingly decent in air and a deflection helped his 2nd goal looked more awesome than it was but I'd say he deserves it for the determination he showed in winning the ball and then getting his shot away.
More of that please. And for the love of god, trust your weaker foot more when you are in decent positions.
More of that please. And for the love of god, trust your weaker foot more when you are in decent positions.
Ten Hag never played him despite having players that are arguably worse ahead of him.
He clearly didn’t rate him that highly.
It was really disturbing to read the venom and vitriol directed here today at Amad, who at least in my view was excellent and easily MOTM.
I agree, until Ten Hag departure, Amad played at least 53% of total game time he was available for, he was unfairly benched last month (0 mins in the PL against Brentford & Aston Villa, and only 6 mins cameo against Fener because Antony was injured), but it's not like Ten Hag totally iced him out for the whole season, Ruud didn't start him in his first 2 games as Interim, give some minutes (17 against Chelsea and 27 against Leicester), one can argue he should be given consistent minutes a lot more (either start games or come in at half time if either Garna and Rashford aren't doing well), but he wasn't just rotting in the bench.
Missed the game last night but I am happy to see him score 2 goals and hopefully Amorim give him a lot more minutes than what he has gotten under EtH.
Come on now, this season Amad played 575 minutes out of 1080 minutes of game time under Ten Hag (Community Shield game against City until Westham game in the league) yes one can say Amad should have gotten more minutes but don't make things up.
Amad barely got a chance until the Liverpool game in the FA Cup last season, where he came on, played very well and scored the winner. He then got a few minutes off the bench, but didn't start a match for almost two months. He finally started the last three PL games of last season, where he was one of our best players (if not our best) against both Arsenal and Newcastle. He was then easily our best player during this preseason, and started the season well (winning our Player of the Month for August).
Yes, his form did trail off after that and he had a few quiet games, but he seems to be getting held to a much higher expectation (both by ETH and some fans) than the likes of Garnacho and Rashford who get away with long stretches of poor form and poor decision making without really losing their places. It's like Amad had to be great every single game not to be dropped by ETH and considered average by some supporters.
Even without the goals today he was probably our best player. He was quiet from about the 25th to the 45th minutes, but before that and after that he was our most dangerous player. Should have won a penalty in the first half, played a big part in most of our attacking moves and did most of his defensive duties well.
Am I saying Amad is a certain long-term starter and is currently (or going to be) world class? No. But he's clearly got something about him that none of our other options have, and has the potential to be a big part of our team going forward. All players will look better in a proper system which has the team functioning well, but some players will actively help that system work. Amad, in theory at least, is that type of player. Whether he's actually going to be good enough remains to be seen, but he needs gametime to show it one way or the other. Something that he really hasn't had yet.
From the way Sporting fans describe Amorim's set-up, he tends to use a traditional #10 alongside an inverted winger type in those two spots behind the striker. In theory at least, Amad seems to be the most suited player we have for the latter role so hopefully we'll soon see him getting that proper chance.
And Saka combined
The hype he gets is not because people think he’s a top 5 winger in the world or even has the potential to. The hype comes from him being the best winger in our squad imo (granted that’s not a high bar)
It's amazing how some fans expect Amad to be almost perfect in every game to justify getting a start, yet they'll tolerate Rashford and Garnacho stinking out the gaff on a regular basis before one of them is ever taken out of the team!
On a technical level, his close control is far better than those two. He's a better decision maker than those two also. Most of the time he will try to play the right pass. Although I have noticed in his last few games that he has tried a few uncharacteristic long range shots from low % positions. I've put that down to frustration at seeing Marcus, Garnacho (and Antony when he was playing) doing the same on a weekly basis and being rewarded with regular game time, so maybe he thinks that's the way to get ahead at this club. I hope it doesn't start to become a bad habit.
(Yes, I'm aware his 2nd goal came from a cut-inside and shot, but there were no other viable options so sometimes it is the correct decision!)
His workrate and tenacity is not even on the same planet as Marcus. Physically, Marcus is a unit but has anyone ever seen him fight for a ball and shrug off a defender twice his size, like Amad did last night? Wouldn't happen.
Garnacho to be fair has a good workrate, but I don't think he has the innate physical strength of Amad. Garnacho gets easily bullied out of games by physical defenders, I don't think that happens to Amad even though he's not a big guy.
He's probably not as fast as the other two, so he might not make the same eye-catching runs with the ball which a lot of United fans like to romanticise about. But most of those "eye-catching" runs they make lead to them running into a wall of defenders and losing possession, so I've had a bollocks-full of watching that the last 18 months!
Hoping this guy becomes an important player in Amorim’s system, gets some world class coaching, and gets a run of games in the team where he's allowed develop and not expected to shoot the lights out in every match in order to keep his place.
On a technical level, his close control is far better than those two. He's a better decision maker than those two also. Most of the time he will try to play the right pass. Although I have noticed in his last few games that he has tried a few uncharacteristic long range shots from low % positions. I've put that down to frustration at seeing Marcus, Garnacho (and Antony when he was playing) doing the same on a weekly basis and being rewarded with regular game time, so maybe he thinks that's the way to get ahead at this club. I hope it doesn't start to become a bad habit.
(Yes, I'm aware his 2nd goal came from a cut-inside and shot, but there were no other viable options so sometimes it is the correct decision!)
His workrate and tenacity is not even on the same planet as Marcus. Physically, Marcus is a unit but has anyone ever seen him fight for a ball and shrug off a defender twice his size, like Amad did last night? Wouldn't happen.
Garnacho to be fair has a good workrate, but I don't think he has the innate physical strength of Amad. Garnacho gets easily bullied out of games by physical defenders, I don't think that happens to Amad even though he's not a big guy.
He's probably not as fast as the other two, so he might not make the same eye-catching runs with the ball which a lot of United fans like to romanticise about. But most of those "eye-catching" runs they make lead to them running into a wall of defenders and losing possession, so I've had a bollocks-full of watching that the last 18 months!
Hoping this guy becomes an important player in Amorim’s system, gets some world class coaching, and gets a run of games in the team where he's allowed develop and not expected to shoot the lights out in every match in order to keep his place.
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