[Trigestis]

Still only 23 and he should be a squad player, in my opinion. But a starter? Not a chance.

 

[Fracture90]

Still only 23 and he should be a squad player, in my opinion. But a starter? Not a chance.

Yeah that's a fair assessment. He can still imporve but don't think he is a starter material. Good squad player though.

 

[Nyland]

Lowering standards for young players because we think that’s following in the club tradition will never stop being mad to me. If someone accepts he isn’t good enough now why are we talking about keeping him in the squad or giving him goal contribution targets for next season?

 

[Trigestis]

Lowering standards for young players because we think that’s following in the club tradition will never stop being mad to me. If someone accepts he isn’t good enough now why are we talking about keeping him in the squad or giving him goal contribution targets for next season?

Because he is a young player and has already shown a much higher level than this. It's not like this is his best. He had 14 goal contributions in 20 starts last season in the league.

 

[saik]

The issue I have with that is no serious club rewards someone “nowhere near good enough” with game time to even make the hope of 20 goal contributions possible.

Someone at the club might believe his last season was decent enough to build on. But yeah, he needs to earn that game time by impressing when he comes on a sub. If they are anything like today, he's toast.

 

[Nyland]

Because he is a young player and has already shown a much higher level than this. It's not like this is his best. He had 14 goal contributions in 20 starts last season in the league.

Every player not good enough for us seems to have great goal contributions. Maybe him and Rashford can rack up goal contributions between them as one gives the ball away the other refuses to defend and we can win the goal contributions league by losing every match 3-4.

 

[Fracture90]

Lowering standards for young players because we think that’s following in the club tradition will never stop being mad to me. If someone accepts he isn’t good enough now why are we talking about keeping him in the squad or giving him goal contribution targets for next season?

Because he is young, has shown potential and some quality before.

Also he is good enough to be a squad option, we can't afford to spend money in his position when we have other glaring holes in our team.

 

[Fortitude]

Not much (any?) mention of the team becoming extremely reluctant to pass to him. That’s a really, really bad sign. If your teammates lose faith in you, you’re on a tough road to win back their confidence.

 

[groovyalbert]

Stinker of a season.

 

[Trigestis]

Every player not good enough for us seems to have great goal contributions. Maybe him and Rashford can rack up goal contributions between them as one gives the ball away the other refuses to defend and we can win the goal contributions league by losing every match 3-4.

He was one of our best players last season, and we can't just sell every player not good enough to be a starter and replace them with starter players. That's not how it works.

 

[Lash]

I said it in the match day thread, it was a big feck up, but I am way more disappointed in how shit the defence was.

 

[BetRed]

Him and Mbeumo both seem out of confidence. Either way we'll need plenty of playerss with CL-football next year and he will play a big part.

 

[DWelbz19]

I said it in the match day thread, it was a big feck up, but I am way more disappointed in how shit the defence was.

Very bad. It was Szobozlai, not prime Mane or Salah running at them. Awful stuff

 

[Cathy Ferguson]

Agreed.

But is he not a decent back-up for a title chasing team? if not he has to be sold then. Too bad Shea Lacey is injury-prone and has off field problems too.

Decent backup but would sell him if we get a decent offer and Lacey is ready to be the backup.

 

[Deewill]

I hate how reactionary our fanbase is. At a certain point he was our best player and he showed the tremendous qualities he can bring to the team. He's having an off season and his confidence took a huge hit. It happens, as it happened to even more established senior players in more functional teams. We just take it on the chin and go again for next season. Then we sell him if he repeats that season

 

[Pickle85]

Poor, yet again.

 

[Lash]

Very bad. It was Szobozlai, not prime Mane or Salah running at them. Awful stuff

And it wasn't full pelt, he turned Maguire inside out with a small feint and then rolled it through Dalots (I think) legs. There was so much more to do and as a team, we failed.

 

[L1nk]

I would genuinely cash in on him, think that he will never be an absolute world beater, and I think we could reinvest the money into areas we really need.

 

[Carl]

He's been Space Jam'd.

 

[AndyMUFC]

He’s not having a great time but let’s not be too hasty. Look at the year Mainoo had before he came back into the team. Just like with him, the talent is there with Amad.

 

[Maluco]

We saw this with Salah for years in the PL post AFCON. Him and Mbeumo are both exhausted. That has to factor into planning with both players.

 

[RopersReturn]

He’s more than capable and can compete at the highest level. I just wish he wouldnt try and over elaborate at times, and pass to teammates rather than going for random off target shots.

 

[LDUred]

Maybe rest him for the last three games. He's going to be going off to the World Cup so if there is serious burn out that's not going to help.

 

[Frank White]

We saw this with Salah for years in the PL post AFCON. Him and Mbeumo are both exhausted. That has to factor into planning with both players.

Salah would have been in every competition no? Don't think that excuse is valid for them 2 when we've played 1 game a week for basically the whole season.

 

[Maluco]

Salah would have been in every competition no? Don't think that excuse is valid for them 2 when we've played 1 game a week for basically the whole season.

The combination of that could easily affect their fitness. Salah was poor post-AFCON most seasons he participated in it.

A typical example in 21/22 when he was at his peak as a player…

• Before AFCON: 23 goals and 10 assists in 26 matches.
• After AFCON: 7 goals and 6 assists in 25 matches, with a goal-per-game rate dropping from over 0.88 to roughly 0.33.

It’s a lot of travel mid season, a lot of time away from teammates and some massive games with a lot of pressure. The fact they have both looked so much worse after the tournament is unlikely to be a coincidence.

 

[Apokalips]

I hate how reactionary our fanbase is. At a certain point he was our best player and he showed the tremendous qualities he can bring to the team. He's having an off season and his confidence took a huge hit. It happens, as it happened to even more established senior players in more functional teams. We just take it on the chin and go again for next season. Then we sell him if he repeats that season

Agree. He was actually having a decent season performance wise in the first half of the season but you're only as good as your goal contributions or your recent performances in the football world.

He is clearly talented and hard working, there should never even be the slightest consideration of selling him.

 

[M Bison]

I’ve never been a massive fan, people raving about him earlier in the season but he’s just an ok player for me.

Wouldn’t get anywhere near the starting lineup for city or Arsenal.

I think he’ll be plying his trade elsewhere after another season or 2. Can definitely see Shea overtaking him.

 

[Frank White]

The combination of that could easily affect their fitness. Salah was poor post-AFCON most seasons he participated in it.

A typical example in 21/22 when he was at his peak as a player…

• Before AFCON: 23 goals and 10 assists in 26 matches.
• After AFCON: 7 goals and 6 assists in 25 matches, with a goal-per-game rate dropping from over 0.88 to roughly 0.33.

It’s a lot of travel mid season, a lot of time away from teammates and some massive games with a lot of pressure. The fact they have both looked so much worse after the tournament is unlikely to be a coincidence.

Way too many mitigating factors to put it down to just AFCON being the reason he had a drop from damn near WC levels of output from Salah but if that is true then what will next year be like from them two? We'll be travelling a lot next season and the games will have a lot of pressure.

I'm genuinely concerned for them if they're struggling this much with as little football we've played this year. Next year we'll hopefully have weeks where it's Tue/Wed, Sat/Sun for weeks at a time.

 

[Mike Smalling]

Beginning to really worry about him. Needs a full reset in the summer.

 

[AndersB]

Not much (any?) mention of the team becoming extremely reluctant to pass to him. That’s a really, really bad sign. If your teammates lose faith in you, you’re on a tough road to win back their confidence.

Hmm. I haven't really thought of that myself. Do we have anything substantial to draw this from, or is it just an impression of sorts.

He does seem at rock bottom confidence wise though, and that will likely affect team mates decisions too I guess, consciously or not

 

[golden_blunder]

Error aside, absolutely dreadful form continues

 

[Fortitude]

Hmm. I haven't really thought of that myself. Do we have anything substantial to draw this from, or is it just an impression of sorts.

He does seem at rock bottom confidence wise though, and that will likely affect team mates decisions too I guess, consciously or not

Today it was evident. Whether it was to save him from himself or distrust is something that'll reveal itself in the upcoming games.

 

[Cathy Ferguson]

Error aside, absolutely dreadful form continues

Has he ever been really good and a serious threat? He was better under Amorim but still quite an average player.

 

[golden_blunder]

Has he ever been really good and a serious threat? He was better under Amorim but still quite an average player.

Overhyped a bit admittedly but he’s not been in bad form like this before

 

[Bwuk]

He badly needs the season to end. Just not happening for him at the minute.

I love Amad and I think he’s got it in him to hit the very top, but next season is probably make or break for him at United.

 

[Wednesday at Stoke]

He’s woefully out of form, I was surprised Zirkzee didn’t get the second half ahead of him.

 

[Rossa]

His running looks a little off, and he doesn’t look as explosive or nimble from a dead start either. Somehow he looks off. Maybe just a write off season and he gets back to his business next season. If not, he would sadly have to be let go.

 

[flameinthesun]

Invisible apart from the mistake. As we build up the squad he is starting to look like he may not be of the quality to go on a journey to winning a major title. Mbuemo was not great bit at least he had some physicality this game, Amad had nothing.

 

[Oscar Bonavena]

The 2nd half was set up for him. We were defending deep against a Liverpool team who were clueless with how to break us down, and we could hit them on the break at every opportunity.

Perfect for him to use his pace and dribbling ability with the ball against a shaky Liverpool defence.

And he f**ks it up barely a minute after coming on and gives them a lifeline out of nowhere.

I don't know where last year's Amad has gone but he needs to get his head out of his arse in time for next season.

 

[Tosicsleftpeg]

People saying he's not good enough are an absolute joke. He was amazing last year and has huge amounts of talent, remember the city away game and the Southampton hat-trick ...also when he scored 2 in the Europa League against PAOK and a load of other games.

He's had a poor season but he's definitely a good player, if people can't see that then they don't know anything about football.