Thankfully Afcon has been moved to off-season, going forward.
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 31
- Goals
- 2
- Assists
- 2
- Yellow cards
- 1
At least the next AFCON is scheduled during the summer break, so it will not be a mid-season disturbance. But it's quite annoying that it's every other year compared to every four for the Euros and Copa America.
If they play every other year, then what happens during world cup summer? Do they play both Afcon and WorldCup
It will be played every 4 years from 2028
He really has dropped off quite a lot and hopefully Carrick can build him back up, maybe a little over these next 3 games and then in pre-season. Whether you think he is United quality or not, he is 100% going to be here next season and our wide options are very limited right now and have other priorities now to work on this summer.
Our options of the bench or to even rotate and not have a drop off is going to be critical to being in in CL and more than likely later rounds of Carabao / FA, so we need him to pick up. Before at least he was a danger, just the end product wasn't coming off but, now everything else he had has dropped off.
Also, do like that he took it that hard for his mistake, shows how much he cares and also recognizes what a big moment it was. Now for Carrick and also his teammates to lift him along with himself.
Our options of the bench or to even rotate and not have a drop off is going to be critical to being in in CL and more than likely later rounds of Carabao / FA, so we need him to pick up. Before at least he was a danger, just the end product wasn't coming off but, now everything else he had has dropped off.
Also, do like that he took it that hard for his mistake, shows how much he cares and also recognizes what a big moment it was. Now for Carrick and also his teammates to lift him along with himself.
Yeah this aged like milk! My bad
I could see this happening as his form has really fallen off. If Lacey had played a bit more and shown improvement on his initial spark, he likely would have taken minutes off of Amad this season.
If Amad could rediscover his earlier form, then there is a decent player there but as it stands, he is sadly well shy of where we'd all hoped he would be. Bringing in Mbeumo should have given him the incentive to prove himself but he almost seems to have gone backwards.
Arsenal are about to win the league with way worse wingers getting regular game time, in my opinion.
Yeah they have not excelled, but Arsenal can afford it since they are defensively solid.
He works hard, he puts in a shift. I'm not sure his performances have ever consistently hit the heights some think it has. Quite apart from the fact it's becoming eerily depressing to have yet another player by the time he's in his early to mid 20s already having his best days being described as historical events using the dreaded past 'goal contributions' stat - something only ever pulled out when a player is struggling. Nobody cares about 'goal contributions' until we're several months into someone looking poor. Then out comes "goal contributions"
If we're thinking about raising the bar and progressing on we need to be a lot more ruthless and stop pretending that being decent a few months ago somehow means that they're bound to become work class if only we give them 300 more games to prove it.
I think he lacks what it takes to be in our starting XI, even now let alone where we want to be in the next year or two. He's looked good at times but he's never consistently looked amazing aside from to that core of the fan base that will insist anyone that correctly ties their shoe laces in a red shirt must be considered a generational talent.
If we're thinking about raising the bar and progressing on we need to be a lot more ruthless and stop pretending that being decent a few months ago somehow means that they're bound to become work class if only we give them 300 more games to prove it.
I think he lacks what it takes to be in our starting XI, even now let alone where we want to be in the next year or two. He's looked good at times but he's never consistently looked amazing aside from to that core of the fan base that will insist anyone that correctly ties their shoe laces in a red shirt must be considered a generational talent.
Ok I will concede he's been way below par recently, but the way some of you are giving up on him is bewildering. This is a guy who over the past 2 seasons alone: has begun a season being bizarrely ignored by ETH; was moved into a new position for large parts of his first season with Amorim (and when he did start hitting a serious vein of form under Amorim, culminating in a hattrick against Southampton, then got injured and lost momentum); began this season playing wingback but then went away to AFCON and returned to being as a winger again.
Yes he's been underwhelming but there have been more than a few mitigating factors that surely afford him some benefit of the doubt.
Yes he's been underwhelming but there have been more than a few mitigating factors that surely afford him some benefit of the doubt.
Needs to be much improved next season. Clearly a player there, but he hasn't kicked on like we hoped this season.
No we need to stop having teams stuffed with benefit of the doubt’s. Nothing crystallises the chasm between the standards we set when we were successful to where we are now fans seemingly being okay with players who have achieved absolutely nothing being given endless time to ‘come good’ based on very little.
If we was absolutely amazing for a considerable period then I would understand, but he wasn’t. He was good. Playing well for a bit needs to stop being a free ticket mediocrity for extended periods.
It is incompatible with trying to build a foundation to be successful in the future by insisting that if a player has a decent spell for any period of time we owe them months or years in the first team because of some kind of misplaced sense of loyalty towards them.
We need to stop being the club that as soon as a player smiles at us and looks decent for a few weeks we insist they must be given 350 games before we can decide if they’re good enough.
Let’s leave the era of ‘He’ll come good FC’ in the past. Collectively I think we need to be a lot better at identifying how much of a red flag it is when we are speaking about a player in his early to mid 20s and reminiscing about how good he used to be. As a fan base, we are really bad at missing those red flags.
We’d be winning the treble every year if not for the African nations cup, media stories, falling out with partners, remembering historical injuries, all these top players somehow having massive depressions of form that fans seem to want absolutely no consequences for, players being a bit sad, parking issues and much more besides.
We’d definitely win the ‘but his goal contributions’ cup were it to become a thing
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I prefer him to the "tw*t from Argentina" but his United career is almost starting to mirror that of the aforementioned brat. He started off as a young talent and flashed brilliance, only to end up being a head down run into trouble player with very little end product. With the emergence of Dorgu, Lacey and Gabriel, perhaps United will feel that they have enough youth to cover Cunha & Mbeumo going into next season, especially if they (as they should) look to add a proven player in the summer, so maybe a decent offer for Amad would not be the worst outcome.
He's had a shite time since he came back from AFCON, but wanting him gone is way too hasty. Jeez, he was our best player not long ago. He deserves a chance to turn his form around.
Amad is Garnacho now? Nothing about Amad is Garnacho like except that both can't seem to hit a barn door right now. His form is a worry I'm not going to lie but so is every other wingers at the club barring maybe Cunha but even then he's gone through weeks of games where the only thing people have praised is his work rate.
Amad and Mbeumo are a serious worry because it's hard to pin down what's caused the drop off. People have said it's AFCON but to me that's a cause for even bigger concern over what they'll be like next year when we have to play every 3/4 days for weeks at a time?
I think there's a quality player in there and he's shown glimpses, albeit briefly this year. Hopefully next year with a fresh start all are wingers find some form of consistency.
Amad and Mbeumo are a serious worry because it's hard to pin down what's caused the drop off. People have said it's AFCON but to me that's a cause for even bigger concern over what they'll be like next year when we have to play every 3/4 days for weeks at a time?
I think there's a quality player in there and he's shown glimpses, albeit briefly this year. Hopefully next year with a fresh start all are wingers find some form of consistency.
"form" is a temporary measure
example, Baleba has had a serious drop this season - more to it than simply a dip in form...
when the spell of poor play extends beyond a few months, something more is afoot and a club of United's stature cannot allow 12 months to be written off as a mere dip in form
This season, despite his talent, Amad has been shockingly poor - I'd sell him IF - and only IF - as I mentioned earlier, the club are confident enough in Lacey, Dorgu & Gabriel going forward as depth with a new proven attacking threat to come in.
example, Baleba has had a serious drop this season - more to it than simply a dip in form...
when the spell of poor play extends beyond a few months, something more is afoot and a club of United's stature cannot allow 12 months to be written off as a mere dip in form
This season, despite his talent, Amad has been shockingly poor - I'd sell him IF - and only IF - as I mentioned earlier, the club are confident enough in Lacey, Dorgu & Gabriel going forward as depth with a new proven attacking threat to come in.
A twenty one year old kid losing his mother at the start of the season is huge mitigation that isn’t taken into consideration enough.
But Amad has hardly been given loads of time - 1.5 seasons at most, and even during that time, he's been shuffled between positions and injured. I'd agree if it's the same by this point next season, but I think you're being premature here and trying a bit too hard to display some kind of 'ruthless fan' credentials. By your metric, Fergie would've given up on Saha, and then we wouldn't have seen his great form in 2006-7.
Been watching a lot of our highlights under Carrick and it's kind of wild how many big chances he has had stopped/blocked/woodwork. I can sense it changing soon for him and he will get a few goals soon.
Made a similar observation a while back, BUT my bigger concern is that he might just remain that player, the almost kind. We know how good he is technically, but if the end product gets into a hit-and-miss kinda territory, might be difficult for him to start games consistently for a title challenging side.
Despite how poor he has been, I am still not giving up on him, and he is too good of player quality wise not to bounce back to his best, I think he should be given the RW role only when playing, and let him duke it out with Mbeumo next season since we'll have a lot more games to play, even if Cunha is not available it should either be a new player we signed or someone like Mount to play LW instead of shoehorning him there.
I can him rediscovering his form.
I can him rediscovering his form.
What filth is this? He needs to read this and get the fire back in his belly.
Clearly they can't afford him but if we could get 45 million for him I would take it and move on.
He's getting one more season surely, but if this poor form continues, he's probably our next export to Serie A.
In summer 2027 we'll be reassessing the attacking situation(plus a new CB probably, when Martinez and Maguire leave) and there will be some changes, Amad seems most likely to get shipped out.
In summer 2027 we'll be reassessing the attacking situation(plus a new CB probably, when Martinez and Maguire leave) and there will be some changes, Amad seems most likely to get shipped out.
He's not world class or anything but he's a talented and hard-working lad. I'll be more critical if I was seeing attitude issues like in the case of Rashford or Sancho but that's not what I'm seeing. It seem more like a confidence issue. He brings more than goals and assist. He's good at pressing, ball retention under pressure, carries into the final third and tracking back to help the full back.
While you need more than that at United, we have bigger issues elsewhere. For now we should be hoping he steps up cause we'll need his contributions next season with all the games we'll be juggling, he's not had a great season but he can do better.
While you need more than that at United, we have bigger issues elsewhere. For now we should be hoping he steps up cause we'll need his contributions next season with all the games we'll be juggling, he's not had a great season but he can do better.
Loan him out for four months to Sunderland. They‘ll get the best out of him, then we get him back. Win win.
No chance I'd sell him this summer but it has been an underwhelming season for him, especially the second half. Hope he has a great season next year with more games and opportunities.
Fine as a squad player and too good to sell as he's never let us down in terms of workrate and there's no guarantee of getting a technically better player in today's market for a fair price.
Probably just needs a pre season to get Amorim's tactical approach out of his system.
Probably just needs a pre season to get Amorim's tactical approach out of his system.
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Just on it, and disappointingly light weight today.
He has been fully blunted for a while now, what's wrong with him?
Yeah he’s getting bullied by most opponents this season when trying to go forward, he’s always been small and slight but he looks tiny at times.
Been absolutely shit since AFCON. Needs to be told that the next season is make or break for him. A winger with productivity can’t be starter for Man United.
Both he and Mbeumo have been mostly terrible since AFCON. They came back hot but both dropped off enormously in the weeks after. Even though he hasn’t played much, Mazraoui also tanked his form. It’s too coincidental not to be linked.
Not worried about either player. They’ll bounce back.
Not worried about either player. They’ll bounce back.
Really poor today. Felt like most attacks broke down when the ball reached him. Seems to have just lost some desire.
The shot off the free kick was so poor too
The shot off the free kick was so poor too
Does he think he's fast? Because he looks slow, like he can't do enough of those small steps to outmanouver any opponent.
Anyway, he needs a reset and let's see how he can come back from this form.
Anyway, he needs a reset and let's see how he can come back from this form.
Squad player is his limit outside of pretending he was world beating a few months ago
Hopefully he does better next season. Very sub par season from him sadly.
He is obviously only squad player quality, which is fine, but only if he doesn't think he's one of the main guys.
Has to be a consideration of a player that we can cash in.