There's literally no reason why he should just accept United deal without thinking about his future and how much he'll earn here and there.
Ander Herrera to PSG? | Gone.
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Fred is on 160k per week? I simply cannot believe that. I don't believe the club is even that stupid to do that. City backed off, so nobody bidded for him besides us anyway
I wouldn't bet on us not being that stupid.
Obviously but both sides have been briefing to get their side of the story across. Every report I saw from France via Sport Witness mentioned he'd be offered £150,000 per week, which is far less than £200k that's been getting play in England. Also the stuff that's been written today mentioned Herrera wanted the same money as Fred, which is nowhere near £200k.
Clearly its in United's interest to make Herrera looking like a money grabbing blood sucker, and its in Ander's interest to make it look like he's been hard done by. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. However, nobody can deny the whole Herrera renewal talk went very quiet some time ago.
I read somewhere that we've not renewed his contract after the initial 5 year contract that he was signed on. That's very poor by the club- I'd rather we get him to sign a contract 2-3 years into the existing contract than leave for free.
For a Herrera on 80k a week maybe.
There is no way that we would get 25m for a Herrera on 150-200k a week come the end of last season or next though. Being over 30 and everything. Because its pretty obvious that would it would have taken to extend his contract one or two years ago. We would also have been paying much more for his services the last couple of years.
This narrative of us losing money on this situation is incorrect at best. It would also tie us up even more in the transfermarket the next couple of years along with the Sanchez contract. In one year Fred and McT could have taken such steps that they would have overtaken Herrera and we would be sitting with another longterm contract for essentially an old squad player.
The clubs principle of just granting one or two year extensions for older players is really a good one to be honest.
If this is true and then you take into account the fact that until Mourinho's sacking he was barely used then you can understand his position. Barely playing for an entire season could have destroyed his value(wage) from other clubs POV. This is typically the type of things that should see the people in charge of HR on the hot seat whoever that is Woodward included.
I know that players didn't always leave on good terms in the past, most did however. I just get the impression that we have forgotten how to treat them as human beings and not commodities.
I think most people including me wouldn't be against Herrera leaving as unfortunately he is not good enough to play in our starting XI every week. However it's really frustrating that we decide to keep literally useless players like Jones, Young, Darmian, Valencia (looks like FINALLY he is leaving...) while we let Herrera go who is a good squad player to have IMO. If we manage to replace him then it's fine but I have 0 confidence in that. We will mostly spend £40m on another mediocre player.
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Basically summarizes my opinion on his contract situation. Before blaming him for asking for money, we should look at how his underperforming teammates are getting paid. How can he not look at them ?
I won't have any hard feeling against him when he leaves. Good luck for him in PSG.
Absolutely this. It still amazes me that we have one of the highest wages in any club in the world. We have Pogba and DDG who have some sort of claim to those wages (not saying it's justified by any means), and literally no one else.
The fact that a majority of these average players earn 100k+ a week is absolutely baffling.
The Sanchez situation has worsened this. But also, any average players asking for more money based on that should be asked to feck off.
So because we overpaid before, we should carry on doing that with a 30 year old Herrera who is reported to want in excess of £200k a week? if the reliable James Ducker is to be believed..
Yes, but we need to step in and stop this cycle. Next thing we know another player will feel the same way and do the same thing.
Say no to a couple of players, and then that will set a proper precedent. Giving away huge long term contracts to players turning 30+ soon is a bad idea and needs to be stopped.
He's earning a 75k a week. For a player who plays and performs way better than many others it's terrible for him to see how much others are getting far more paid than him.
Can you blame him for asking for more money ? I really can't. Not with our wage structure. He has 100% the right to ask for +150k if Young is earning 110, Mata 140 and Sanchez 350.
Whatever we should give him the contract or not, the issue is we should have never been in such position to start with. If we were giving each player what he deserves, I doubt he would have asked for 200k.
Perhaps we're learning, Mata , Young, Sanchez, all sat on fat contracts, all in massive decline.
Herrera likely won't be far behind, so why repeat the same mistakes.
Maybe the club are trying to reverse this now.
The figures really did change quickly.
Everyone seems so certain about what players earn, despite them not being disclosed.
Yet some don't think people should be rewarded. It should have been done a couple of years back. Then he would still be here and we wouldn't be in need of renewing his contract at this minute and instead are having to spend a fortune on a new player. Who by the way will want a darn sight more than Herrera was on.
How is that stupid? How much do you think a Brazilian international midfielder should be paid at a leading European side? You're not going to get them for tuppence ha'penny a week!
I don't blame him for asking for 200k a week. I'm glad we haven't bowed down to his demands. This might even be a blessing in disguise for us if we sign a cm who would be a improvement on him. We just need to be patient and see who comes in.
And if Ander is the sacrificial lamb to that process, I can live with that.
Thought figures were released or at least United's seem to be.
It's pretty clear most are going off what's being reported by the Manchester press pack.
So we are going to pay wages from 5 years back and expect players to join us. Not sure we have that sort of pulling power any longer unless they support United. If we do not get CL, then we will pay them gazillions.
I remember him almost spitting out that he would be here this season when he was asked about his contract last season.
I cant blame him for being bitter. Woodward and the board are complete arseholes.
You can never blame anyone for asking for more money, especially if there's another team out there that's willing to pay it. But for all we know this contract offer has been on the table long before he was able to speak with other clubs and he's rejected it. United seem set on what they feel his value is and that's not changing. My expectations for next season wouldn't change with or without Herrera, he's a player we can replace with Fred or McTominay and potentially upgrade this summer.
They might release the total wage bill but never the individual players salary.
I don't like the sort of people running this club. I can understand people not wanting to pay over the odds, but they should still treat people with a modicum of respect. Although not sure you can expect that from latter day yuppies.
Somebody posted a list of the individual wages on here going back.
A couple of years ago he was pissed about by LVG and then Mourinho. I can't really blame the club for not rushing to give a bit part player a contract in that time period.
I can't believe we are paying Fred 250K, wtf is the club board thinking of?
Fred is on 120k as far as I'm concerned.
Do quote the leader of the free world - "fake news".
Thank god I didn't imagine it.
Sillyseason.com? Come on!
I can well believe it, especially looking at Sanchez’s wage. Ok, he came on a free but still..
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