Andoni Iraola

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7th in the league with Bournemouth after selling most of their best players in the summer/January. Unbeaten in 14 Premier League games and hasn't lost since they sold Semenyo. Playing exciting, front-foot football.

Leaving at the end of the season - I assumed to Athletic Club but it now sounds like they are appointing Terzic.

7/4 favourite to go to Chelsea. Second favourite (behind Carrick) at 8/1 to come here.

Would we take him here?
 
JB08 said:
Would we take him here?
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Yes.

https://es.coachesvoice.com/cv/cinco-claves-estilo-de-juego-andoni-iraola-bournemouth/

I shared this article with goldenboy why discussing Alex Scott a few weeks back. Below is a summary (yes I used Claude on that) in English:

The article lays out five tactical pillars from his Rayo Vallecano work that he brought to Bournemouth:

1. Wide play (juego exterior)
Attacks are channeled through the flanks. Fullbacks overlap relentlessly while wingers drift inside. At Rayo, Isi Palazón tucked in from the right to free up Balliu; on the left, the Fran García / Álvaro García partnership dominated. Fullbacks operate almost as wing-backs, but never both high simultaneously – when one pushes, the other holds. The double pivot (Comesaña/Valentín) slides into the back line to cover.

2. Midfield superiority via an inverted winger
A 4-2-3-1 in possession that becomes a box midfield when one winger (typically Palazón from the right) drifts inside between the lines. This creates a 4-man midfield: two holders, two #10s, guaranteeing numerical control and freeing the fullbacks to bomb forward.

3. A long-ball release valve
He dominates possession but doesn’t force risky build-up. If pressed, the keeper (Dimitrievski) and left-sided CB (Catena) had license to go long behind the opposition fullback. Álvaro García would pin the RB inside to open the lane for Fran García.

4. Mandatory verticality
Possession has one purpose: hurt the opponent. Even horizontal CB passes exist only to enable the next vertical one. Six or seven players attack the box. In late game states he’ll cross from deep without hesitation. He accepts that this verticality leaves his team exposed to counters – a trade he’s explicitly willing to make.

5. 4-4-2 out of possession, high and aggressive
The #10 joins the striker to press both centre-backs. Lines stay tight and relatively high. Counter-pressing after loss is non-negotiable. Wingers (Palazón, Álvaro) are the key triggers – they jump the opposition fullback the moment the ball travels wide. The physical demand is extreme.

It is an old article, but the principles are basically the same at Bmth. What I am sure any Man Utd-fan will recognize from this text is how similar these principles, and his type of football, is to how Man Utd used to play under Ferguson. I also really like how willing he is to use and develop young players.

Furthermore, I think he would be a good fit to continue developing what we tried to achieve under Ruben Amorim; a really aggressive high press. Not sure how Bruno Fernandes would fit, but I am sure he would figure that out.
 
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Assuming Enrique is not available it will be between him and Nagelsmann for me (though it’s all gone a bit quiet so I assume Carrick will get a permanent shot at the job).
 
I think he would do okay but after watching Frank at Spurs and how well Brentford have done without him it would be risky. I'd prefer Nagelsmann, feel like we need someone who has managed a big club
 
My top choice (I don't think Enrique is gettable). Big fan of his football and I think he'd stand as good a shot as anyone at succeeding here.
 
As it stands I'd likely prefer him to Carrick, but would probably prefer Alonso/Nagelsmann to either. If you're hiring a manager from within the PL though, he's the obvious choice.

If you're a top side hiring from a smaller side, style of play really matters. And on that front I think he's obviously more of a fit than someone like Frank ever was.
 
No. Not proven enough. I like him, he did well for Bournemouth but he should go to a europa league team. Chelsea would be the limit for now
 
Iraola is absolutely worth a punt based on what he has done with Bournemouth and his tactics. He's no mug. If it doesn't work out we know to hire!
 
Excellent coach, wouldn't say he's ready for United. Can see him going to Bilbao.
 
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They are about to appoint Terzic
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Now that's a punchable face.

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OverratedOpinion said:
They are about to appoint Terzic
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Didn't see that! Think it was a week ago that I saw Iraola was mentioned. Don't want him to go to Chelsea, don't see Madrid getting him. Pep might well leave but could see them go for Alonso as it looks like Slot will stay at Liverpool.

Maybe somewhere in Italy for Iraola? Where to for Glasner too?
 
Would be a excellent appointment. Though I think they are going to keep Carrick. Lacey is being promoted to first team next season as is one of Fletcher or Thwaites. To me that says we need a manager with a track record of developing young talent i.e. Iraola. Or we will give Carrick the tools and people around him to help develop these youngsters.
 
Seems like he's everyone's pick. I wanted him to take over from Moyes but there is no chance with United, Chelsea etc. interested.
 
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Didn't see that! Think it was a week ago that I saw Iraola was mentioned. Don't want him to go to Chelsea, don't see Madrid getting him. Pep might well leave but could see them go for Alonso as it looks like Slot will stay at Liverpool.

Maybe somewhere in Italy for Iraola? Where to for Glasner too?
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I think we should hire him personally
 
He seems to be the unanimous favourite choice among the Chelsea fans I know.
 
Ekeke said:
No. Not proven enough. I like him, he did well for Bournemouth but he should go to a europa league team. Chelsea would be the limit for now
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Two of Bayerns best appointments? Vincent Kompany from Burnley and Hansi Flick from? Dont even know where he came from before he was assistent. Hoffenheim? When they went for «proven» and hired Thomas Tuchel and it was a disaster.

And Barcelona? Probably Pep and Luis Enrique. One from their B-team. The other basically a flop at Roma and not good at Celta. Real Madrid? Zidane!

We have tried «proven» before without much success. I hope we go a bit deeper this time.
 
He feels like the only viable external candidate for United if Enrique stays at PSG. I imagine we'll stick with Carrick, but Iraola is a good young coach.

I'd hope for his sake that he chooses his next step smarter than Chelsea. Even if he doesn't go for one of the very top jobs now, he might be able to get one in a couple of years if he finds a good stepping stone club.
 
As much as the media will spin about the risk we'd be taking by not hiring Carrick in the summer, it'd also be a massive risk not hiring Iraola when he is out of contract and there for the taking, the chance might not come around again for a long time, if ever.

Could Carrick have done what he has done at Bournmouth? Highly unlikely, so if we're looking for the very best available then we at least have to be looking at this guy.
 
I was very sceptical during the period they hadn't won a game in living memory but couple wins recently have certainly made things look a lot prettier.

He certainly wouldn't be my top pick though and I suspect he's leaving the league regardless.
 
Cares more about being the fittest and craziest pressing side around rather than controlling the football. Not sure how high that caps him as a manager. He gives me Spurs Pochettino vibes.

A good manager, no doubt. I’m sure he’ll get a top job and it’ll be deserved based on what he’s done at Bournemouth.
 
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He feels like the only viable external candidate for United if Enrique stays at PSG. I imagine we'll stick with Carrick, but Iraola is a good young coach.

I'd hope for his sake that he chooses his next step smarter than Chelsea. Even if he doesn't go for one of the very top jobs now, he might be able to get one in a couple of years if he finds a good stepping stone club.
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I think we should test the waters for somebody like Conte. If the club is truly set up correctly in terms of recruitment and continuity then there’s no reason one of the World Cup coaches can’t be considered, if there is one that the club think is the right guy.
 
My hunch is that he already agreed terms with Bilbao if not close to it already which is why he announced he wouldn't be extending.

I do agree with @andersj that his football resembles the kind of football we played under SAF, unlocking the opposition in few vertical passes was his bread and butter.
 
Iraola is going to Chelsea, I think. He's good at working with young players and developing them and that's exactly what they are looking for. Doesn't seem to be confrontational, combustive, emotionally unstable character so that will also help with the crazy Chelsea board.

I would like him at United - his style of football(direct, energetic) would translate well to the "traditions" of the club and what fans probably want, expect.

But we're probably sticking with Carrick, which is going to be a mistake.
 
SilentWitness said:
He only has a contract until next summer. Id personally say thanks and move on if someone like Iraola was an option.
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Why though? He's doing an incredible job. Grass isnt always greener.
 
pocco said:
I think we should test the waters for somebody like Conte. If the club is truly set up correctly in terms of recruitment and continuity then there’s no reason one of the World Cup coaches can’t be considered, if there is one that the club think is the right guy.
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Outside of the obvious reservations about his temperament, Conte has a horrible record in Europe. If we didn't go for him pre-INEOS, I really don't think we will now.
 
Winrar said:
My hunch is that he already agreed terms with Bilbao if not close to it already which is why he announced he wouldn't be extending.

I do agree with @andersj that his football resembles the kind of football we played under SAF, unlocking the opposition in few vertical passes was his bread and butter.
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Bilbao are down the road with hiring a different manager named Terzic already.
 
CM said:
Outside of the obvious reservations about his temperament, Conte has a horrible record in Europe. If we didn't go for him pre-INEOS, I really don't think we will now.
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He’s won numerous league titles. Let’s start there. He’s by far a safer option than any other name suggested right now. I mean, who would you trust more between Conte or any of Carrick, Iraola etc? It’s not even a discussion really. The club need to get serious and go and get somebody with the experience and ability to get us there.
 
Carl said:
Why though? He's doing an incredible job. Grass isnt always greener.
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He's 62 and he has the same deficiencies that he had the first time he was here. Of course he's largely doing a good job but we have to move on at some point as a club.

Iraola plays good football and is good at developing young players which appears to be part of the TFG transfer strategy and two things Moyes doesn't really do well.
 
pocco said:
He’s won numerous league titles. Let’s start there. He’s by far a safer option than any other name suggested right now. I mean, who would you trust more between Conte or any of Carrick, Iraola etc? It’s not even a discussion really. The club need to get serious and go and get somebody with the experience and ability to get us there.
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The question you have to ask is whether you think we have a team that is capable of winning the league next season. If the answer is no, Conte's not your guy. And with the amount of business we'll need to do in the summer to beef up a pretty thin squad, I think the answer is no.

Conte isn't what I'd describe as a safe option either. He's combustible and has the capacity to make the environment around the club really toxic, just like Mourinho did historically. I don't want us to be in a position where it feels like if we don't win the league next year or the year after, we have to tear everything down and start again. That's what these coaches often represent.
 
He definitely shouldnt be a candidate for us as he has never managed a big club so doesnt have the expirience and at all 4 of the clubs he has managed he has lost almost as many games as he has won.
 
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CM said:
The question you have to ask is whether you think we have a team that is capable of winning the league next season. If the answer is no, Conte's not your guy. And with the amount of business we'll need to do in the summer to beef up a pretty thin squad, I think the answer is no.

Conte isn't what I'd describe as a safe option either. He's combustible and has the capacity to make the environment around the club really toxic, just like Mourinho did historically. I don't want us to be in a position where it feels like if we don't win the league next year or the year after, we have to tear everything down and start again. That's what these coaches often represent.
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My opinion is that this is the lowest bar there has been in a long time in the PL, and that now is the time to strike. City are far from the team they were, and the likes of Liverpool and Chelsea speak for themselves. So I think that, if we could get a few very good players in and somebody like Conte, then we could do it within two years. He took over a basket case Chelsea, shaped a team around their strengths, and won the PL. I don’t think it’s beyond the realms of possibility that he does it again.

The issue is obviously his temperament, but I only know of his issues at PL teams. He’s going to demand a lot because he is a winner, but if the club meets his ambition then good things will probably happen. In fairness to the guy, he’s fallen out with clubs who, as I said, are basket cases. I’m not sure yet if we’re any better or not under INEOS, but he’s definitely a good choice if he’s interested.
 
CM said:
Outside of the obvious reservations about his temperament, Conte has a horrible record in Europe. If we didn't go for him pre-INEOS, I really don't think we will now.
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He'd be a dreadful appointment.

Seriously can't understand how anyone would want him anywhere near the place.
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
Could Carrick have done what he has done at Bournmouth? Highly unlikely, so if we're looking for the very best available then we at least have to be looking at this guy.
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Could Iraola have done what Carrick has done at United? Highly unlikely.
 
Winrar said:
My hunch is that he already agreed terms with Bilbao if not close to it already which is why he announced he wouldn't be extending.

I do agree with @andersj that his football resembles the kind of football we played under SAF, unlocking the opposition in few vertical passes was his bread and butter.
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Apparently Terzic has as good as signed for Bilbao. For me, Iraola is going to Chelsea, he is not leaving the league
 
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