I was skeptical as I thought he looked iffy at Ajax and I remember in his first game he came flying out in the last minute and absolutely clattered a Wolves player that should’ve seen us concede a penalty and the entire league cry-arsed about it for the entire season. That moment I thought he has Massimo Taibi in him.
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We just sold Kelleher and we still have three keepers better than Onana.
It's really easy to upgrade on him. The main difficulty is is actually offloading him in the first place.
I've resigned myself to the increasing possibility of us going into the season with him as our starting keeper.
"Onana really isn't that bad."
Mate, even John O'Shea is a better keeper than Onana. I bet Robbie Keane scores 10 out of 10 in that game vs United if it was Onana at goal.
Mate, even John O'Shea is a better keeper than Onana. I bet Robbie Keane scores 10 out of 10 in that game vs United if it was Onana at goal.
How can any serious club be starting this grossly incompetent keeper this season is beyond me.
Honestly think it would be a huge mistake. You will want to change as many of your deficiencies and bad eggs as possible this summer, to enhance the perception in the squad too, that this is essentially a new team. Unlike most sides, disruption can only work in your favor this summer.
Even if you signed someone as bad as Onana, it would be a net benefit.
There's bound to be some half decent safe hands going this summer. An interrim keeper on the cheap wouldn't be the worst option.
For comparison - in hindsight, Sander Vesterweld was definitely a worse keeper than James and Friedel. I still think we were better off signing him than we would have been persisting with either of James and Friedel as first choice.
I had a dream(nightmare more like) that I walked into my living room and our first match against Arse was on the TV. We where losing 7-3... all 7 goals where Onana mistakes 
He is the Adama Traoré of goalkeeping. Looks the business. Looks to have everything to be a top top player. Yet they are fundamentally flawed not because of raw ability but something mentally. Not character as such. More mental strength, consistency, reading the game, decision making kind of attributes. Onana has always just looked wrong. Its been said from the very start. He is half a step off here, half a step off there. He has the physical attributes and the ability to make great saves but the greatness in goalkeepers and in fact all players come from the fundamentals being perfect 99 percent of the time. You are slightly off in your positioning or make a slightly wrong decision and your fkd. This is why people kept thinking Traore will come good for 10 years and why they think Onana will come good. They look the business but they are flawed. For a goalkeeper thats even worse
Traore simply had no clue what to do with the ball in the final third.
Think he would have made a decent wing back if his prime had coincided with the current 343 vogue.
Edit. Just realised he's 29. Blimey.
Yep, and Hojlund starting upfront..
You have 2, and those two combined cost almost £100m and one you had to loan back for a while.
I'd take Jaros over Onana as well.
There's absolutely nothing to justify that opinion.
I had a dream(nightmare more like) that I walked into my living room and our first match against Arse was on the TV. We where losing 7-3... all 7 goals where Onana mistakes
The worst thing I can say about this is it could be reality rather than a dream and no one would even take it as a surprise. He’s that bad.
Really disagree. He doesn’t ’look the business’.
He certainly does not have the physical attributes needed to be a keeper - unless you mean he’s taller than 5’10 and can raise his arms in the air - then yes.
He has nothing that would make him a top keeper - exception being that he is excellent at controlling the ball with his feet.
His passing is poor, command of his area is poor, is positioning is poor, his decision making is abysmal, he doesn’t react to the ball - he anticipates because he’s slow, so often gets it spectacularly wrong, his technique is poor.
He’s essentially a failed right back who is comfortable on the ball who has been put in goal very late on in his development - so has none of the fundamentals that a goalkeeper should have.
It’s nothing to do with mentality - that can’t fix the fact he cannot do the basics.
I bet he is excellent at rondos. But that’s about it. He won’t ever come good.
jaros has done incredibly well wherever he's gone on loan and is set to be first choice keeper for Ajax this coming season.
And Onana is terrible.
I think it's an easy choice.
Where he has gone is a bunch of lower league teams and the Austrian league. Onana has had more good games for United than Jaros has played meaningful games in his career.
If Berrada and our new football structure are serious about winning the PL by 2028, there is just no room for such underperforming player like Onana. He is the worst GK in our history and he get to keep his place as No.1 next season?
Where is the standard? How to raise the bar when a clown will be playing as our No.1 three season in a row. It's all sales talk and lies to win the PL by 2028 if Berrada is fine with Onana's standard. Liverpool just sold Kelleher who is 10 times better than Onana.
Where is the standard? How to raise the bar when a clown will be playing as our No.1 three season in a row. It's all sales talk and lies to win the PL by 2028 if Berrada is fine with Onana's standard. Liverpool just sold Kelleher who is 10 times better than Onana.
It’s all talk, until you dig into your financials and realize you can’t do half the things you wanted to do.
I don’t think anybody is satisfied with the players we have- I’d go as far as saying Berrada would put a knife through 2/3s of what there is. But wishing and doing are dictated by financial flexibility which we don’t have.
I'd take the infatable tube man that they blow up at my local Skoda garage over Onana.
Yes, we are unable to sell Rashford, Sancho and Garnacho. So there is no chance we are able to sell Onana. He will be our main keeper.
They still have operate within our allegedly low budget. It seems that this year the priority is to get goals into the team. Maybe next summer the priority is midfield and maybe keeper. Its a process.
Then we can forget about 2028. Liverpool, City and Arsenal are miles ahead of us and so far doing very well on the market. Even, Chelsea and Newcastle are better than us.
Yes, it's a process but we need to show much more than this to catch up.
2028 is a realistic timeline. Nothing can be done in one window for the amount of problems we have. I imagine the idea is to add more quality next year then go for a big star or 2 to help us cross over in summer 2027.
If Rio and Vidic (especially Vidic) were playing in front of Onana 2 seasons ago for the CL mistakes then Onana would have been on the side of a milk carton fairly soon after.
I had a dream(nightmare more like) that I walked into my living room and our first match against Arse was on the TV. We where losing 7-3... all 7 goals where Onana mistakes
That's because Onana was sitting there in your lounge watching the drama unfold.
Seriously though I have no hope of us getting anywhere with this guy between the sticks come next season.
I find it worrying that he isn't being pushed out this summer. A keeper of a PL standard would save 12-15 points a season for this absolute abomination of a team. I guess we don't need more points or something. Trust the process.
If he's between the sticks against Arsenal in the first game of the season, I'd personally write the season off before it's begun. That's before the question marks over the manager and numerous others too, but Onana would have been my priority to replace before anyone else. A solid foundation always starts from the back.
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Agree with every single word here mate. This club never ceases to amaze me.
I'd love to know by what metric Onana looks the business.
You mean the Onana who was first choice for Ajax when they reached the semis of the CL? Or CL final with Inter. Why is it a good benchmark for him but not Onana?
Genuinely, such a nonsense comment about your third string keeper. Kelleher was massively overrated as well, he was a large reason we beat you in the FA cup with his absolute lettuce wrists.
There's no problem criticising Onana for his absolute horror shows, but let's not pretend you didn't go and pay £30m for a keeper as a back up to Alisson, but had two good keepers on your books. Your club knows neither them are good enough.
Other than Jaros, whoever he is, being a different human being?
The hype surrounding Onana before and just he arrived at Old Trafford was something to behold. It was as though we had just signed Cantona.
But questions didn't take long to be asked. Was it his first, or perhaps second, friendly when Onana was lobbed from the stratosphere?
But questions didn't take long to be asked. Was it his first, or perhaps second, friendly when Onana was lobbed from the stratosphere?
100%. Especially some posters here who claimed that they know a thing about tactics and whatnot that Onana build up play from the back will totally transform our attack. He was like the final missing piece of a puzzle to complete our attack. Strange that the same thing was claimed about Lisandro Martinez.
I've never heard of him but I agree 100%
I dont remember many people going that far that he'd make that big a difference. Most people, myself included, said he'd be play a part in improving our control of games and (less directly) our attack. Of course that was in the expectation that the rest of our team would stay at least the same level and hopefully improve further. Unfortunately the rest of the team got significantly worse instead, so we could have had Ederson in goal and it wouldn't have done much.
The better the team is, the more impact a keeper with good ability on the ball can have (if the team plays to that strength). Conversely, the worse a team is (like we have been these last two years) the less it can do.
Or course, it's turned out Onana isn't even as good on the ball as we had thought. Very good control, but his actual distribution isn't anything to write home about.
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We are simply not ruthless enough as a club.
It's actually quite unbelievable that our two weakest positions in our starting 11 going into the summer - striker and goalkeeper - we've decided actually our goalkeeper is good enough and will start next season, and we've decided not allocate our initial budget towards a striker and instead pray for sales that aren't coming, whilst keeping an eye on Calvert Lewin and Jamie Vardy on a free should the sales not go well.
An absolute shambles of a football club.
It's actually quite unbelievable that our two weakest positions in our starting 11 going into the summer - striker and goalkeeper - we've decided actually our goalkeeper is good enough and will start next season, and we've decided not allocate our initial budget towards a striker and instead pray for sales that aren't coming, whilst keeping an eye on Calvert Lewin and Jamie Vardy on a free should the sales not go well.
An absolute shambles of a football club.
It's the phytagoras in boots guy, get him!!!!!
What does that say about Amorim then?
I like Amorim and want him very much to be a success, but I think his acceptance of Onana, instead of being decisive and cut him like he did with Garnacho will be the death of him. I believe if Onana start the season he'll lose his job by November at least.