Fair enough.
André Onana | Loaned to Trabzonspor
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In the latest edition of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) discuss the absolute VAR shambles that lead to us losing the Manchester Derby.
But is it all on the VAR room? How much blame can be placed on Carrick and the players?
They also preview the 2 matches before the International Break and update on the struggles at MUWomen.
I seem to remember Ole's team coming together and it starting to unravel when Ronaldo came back, really seemed to unbalance the team and we were less of a team and more Ronaldo FC, I cannot recall what Sancho was like around then.
The horror show at Grimsby was definitely the final straw.
Hurts to admit as someone who admittedly rated him before this disaster showing, but good riddance.
Hurts to admit as someone who admittedly rated him before this disaster showing, but good riddance.
About time we start moving away from him, if the rule of 2 years is true, then he's shown over the last 2 years he's not worth the headache. I honestly believe he was the cause of our defense becoming so weak, our defenders stopped trusting the GK and it just cascaded from there. Hopefully this transfer goes through, and it may even lead to a permanent move next summer.
Who was Trabzonspor's goalkeeper last season?
Massimo Taibi?
Massimo Taibi?
Taibi would probably be an improvement on Onana, to be fair.
Ugurcan Cakir, he just moved to Galatasary.
FM Legend.
To be honest, he started last season in excellent form for the first few months I think. He then progressively lost his way, but I remember him being very good for a period and seeing his name in ‘Team of the Season so far’ tweets.
That said, can’t argue with the rest. I was never keen on him from the beginning, and saw him as an example of people getting excited about goalkeeper’s passing over their actual jobs. His CL campaign was unforgivable, and amongst many feck ups - that Gibbs-White goal was particularly inexplicable.
He's incredibly unlikeable because of his arrogance when he joined the club compared to what he has actually given the club. The way he went after Maguire in those early games after the year he was having said a lot about his character, who he is.
One of the tabloids might have it recorded!
Best news of today! I do not know who Trabzonspor is but I hope they do not get internet access until this deal goes through.
Ronaldo was causing all the issues himself after the end of the Ole/Rangnick season, long before he ever met ETH. When he finally did rejoin the group he then proceeded to play incredibly shit, to the extent that most fans were saying ETH either had no balls or the club were forcing him to play Ronaldo, as his performance levels certainly didn't deserve the amount of minutes he was getting during those first few months of the season. That entire situation was 100% Ronaldo.
Sancho I'm not quite so sure on, as perhaps someone with better man-management skills could have handled that better. But then again perhaps not, and based on everything else that has happened during his career I do tend to think he would have been a problem no matter who the manager was.
In the same summer of 2023, we signed Onana and Bayindir, and we were rumoured to sign Suzuki
it is the worst scouting work ever!
it is the worst scouting work ever!
Your entire post is spot on except for the last line. I think it's this kind of baseless sentimentality that's been the bane of the fanbase for a long long time now. I mean he has fumbled his way here for 2 years and cost us many games and points. He has been paid his not unsubstantial salary and of course lord knows how much he has earned in endorsements all thanks to the power of the United badge. So the question is what are we indebted to him for that we need to "hope he does well elsewhere"? I don't give a rats arse as to how to does at Trabzonspor or Wisla Krakow. We need to learn to cut the proverbial cord with these kind of players who've had negative contributions to our club.
Yep, Onana was actually very good last season up until the Forest game in early December. He was widely considered our player of the season up until that point. But he made a bad mistake for one of the goals in that game and instantly lost his head completely.
Onana hasn't been as consistently bad as most people make out. For a bit over 12 months in the middle of his time here he was fine, if not better than fine. The problem is that that period was bookended with truly terrible periods where he's making far too many mistakes, and while we could somewhat excuse the first one (the first couple of months after joining), the second one and the fact he completely shit the bed as soon as he made one bad mistake in his second season meant we just can't trust him at all. Even if he had started this season well again, chances are he would have fallen apart as soon as he did make a mistake.
It's not just sentimentality here though, if he does well that will help the club get a better price for him when they do manage to sell him off.
Also I have to say lines like "I hope you do well in your future endeavours" are often a polite way of saying "feck off and I hope to never see you again".
Personally I feel it's alright to wish ex-players well even if they were shite as long as they were consummate professionals who didn't shit-talk the club or act out.
hopefully his loan materialises into him never wearing the Utd shirt again. He was a really poor choice in the first place and had been dining off that Champions League final for Inter.
Doesn’t help when you get ex Pros like Rio coming out with nonsense then amplified by the YouTube mob like Howson ‘A proper Goalie’
All the red flags were there and this isn’t a case of Utd ruining him. Poor technique with his hands, poor decision making and distribution over stated.before he played a single game for us.
Doesn’t help when you get ex Pros like Rio coming out with nonsense then amplified by the YouTube mob like Howson ‘A proper Goalie’
All the red flags were there and this isn’t a case of Utd ruining him. Poor technique with his hands, poor decision making and distribution over stated.before he played a single game for us.
I disagree on Sancho. It is becoming increasingly obvious that ten Hag is sh*t and difficult but he signed off on giving Sancho a 3 month break. He did try the carrot first, but the moment he even hinted towards the stick, Sancho saw his arse.
Pep quite happily let an obviously talented player in Sancho go, which I’m sure had far more to do with him being a knobhead than ability.
Rather than loaning him out, can we sell him at whatever highest offer we got?
I don't care if it is just 5M
I don't care if it is just 5M
Same here. We under utilized Cavani and ended up dismantling the balance we had from that initial upbeat start
ETH gave Sancho a 3month paid holiday during the season. I think he did what he could to help Sancho
He also gave Ronaldo the captain's armband and played him for 90 minutes regularly. So I think he did what he could with him as well.
Firstly, the better he does on loan, the more we can get for him when it comes time to sell in the summer.
Secondly, I dont believe he has purposely been terrible, just isn't good enough. So I dont wish him bad when he leaves. This is as much on the club/ETH as it is him. He wasn't highly rated in the game when we signed him but had a decent season at Inter.
I agree. We can still be forensic, and rectify our mistakes quickly - whilst still being a club that says and does the right thing.
I can’t stand Onana, and never want him to play for the club again. But of course we should wish him well.
There are so few options left, we aren’t getting an offer for £5m. A loan covering his wages would be a very good deal. He’s out the club, and hopefully gains some semblance of form.
At present, no club would take a risk on a perm transfer, and he probably wouldn’t want to go to any club that would want to buy him now (majority of transfer windows closed).
We might have a chance at getting some money for him next summer.
Back to the GK situation do we assume Lammens is starting vs City. I'd be dead worried about Altay parrying the ball around Haaland 
What's a bit weird is the Athletic is reporting that his agent approached the club after he was dropped for the Fulham game to ask if he should look for a new club while the window was still open, but was told that he was part of Amorim's plans. The rumours around another goalkeeper signing were around for much of the summer, so I wonder what changed and why this has only happened when the vast majority of markets are closed.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6431666/2025/09/06/andre-onana-manchester-united-trabzonspor-loan/
To say his goodbyes to teammates then head off?
You’re right with regards to wishing players well; there’s very few that I wouldn’t *cough* Sancho *cough*.
Onana is rubbish, was always rubbish, I knew it was a bad signing, but that’s not his fault. Doesn’t across as a massive bell end, just a very bad goalkeeper. It’s just massively encouraging to see the club being so much more ruthless with moving players on. Hopefully the days of Jones, Lindelof and co approaching testimonials are behind us.
Yes there are exceptions, Sancho is one.
Players fail, players fail at all clubs, this summer at least we’ve started to address it.
He's a good fit for Tarbonsponsor I reckon
I don’t think they live there either.
Let's not forget that he is reported to have wanted a newer fatter contract for this season.
Dodgy goalkeeping has cost us so many points.
We have to keep changing them until we get it right.
We have to keep changing them until we get it right.
Absolutely, some of the comments about him on this thread have gone too far. There’s a whiff of something about some of them too
This window is turning out to be a 12/10. Fantastic by ineos to convince anyone to take this pillock.
I'd love to have been a fly on the wall.
As the old ads used to say : If Carlsberg did loan negotiations..
That's a strange comment about somebody wishing him well. You don't need to agree, but the world is already full of idiots spreading a negative, hateful attitude. Wishing somebody well is hardly a problem. I'd argue based on your post that your attitude is a bigger problem.
Racism?
Could you provide some evidence of these Whiffs?