André Onana | Loaned to Trabzonspor

golden_blunder said:
We need to give him the Hojlund treatment and directly tell him that his time here is done. He’s made too many mistakes and his performances been too erratic to be considered a Manchester United goalkeeper. Thanks for your efforts here but it’s time to find a new club.
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Us agreeing a deal with a club before we even know if he's interested in going there is a fairly clear message to the guy,.

Also unlike Onana Hojlund stood a genuine chance of still been able to fight for his place if he'd stayed given he only had Sesko to compete with, but still decided to go because he wants to play more and prove himself, and also read the situation that he wasn't wanted anymore.

Onana is now clearly third choice in a season where we have 18 games or so less than last year, so you'd conclude that he's not that bothered whether he play or not if he does stay, and will so become another money pit until his contract is up.
 
Berrada is at least sticking to his guns with underperforming two years into your contract. If that's the case, you're out the door. Antony (albeit a loan on year 2), Hojlund and now Onana. This is how you create a winning culture. Underperform and you're out.
 
DuruttiColumn said:
There’s a whiff of something about some of them too
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Insinuating racism without proof doesn't fly well on here. I suggest you provide some evidence or even explain why you think that.

Isn't him being a constant disaster enough to want to ship him out?
 
Think the Turkish window has until Friday, so this is going to go on and on.

Surely he can see his days here are numbered.
 
Wibble said:
Insinuating racism without proof doesn't fly well on here. I suggest you provide some evidence or even explain why you think that.

Isn't him being a constant disaster enough to want to ship him out?
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Well said
 
Wibble said:
Insinuating racism without proof doesn't fly well on here. I suggest you provide some evidence or even explain why you think that.

Isn't him being a constant disaster enough to want to ship him out?
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You’ll be waiting a while, I asked 2-3 times already and he’s just doubled down
 
Claims of racism in this regard are bizarre. Bayindir is viewed with equal contempt in terms of ability, any difference in strength of feeling is dictated by the fact Onana cost 9 times as much and is on double the wages.

Criticism is usually weighted by expectation, and in football expectation is driven a lot by wages and fees. Antony wouldn’t have had half the ridicule if he’d cost the £25m or so he was worth. Wirtz at Liverpool is already under pressure because he cost over £100m, no one would be batting an eyelid yet if he cost a third of that.

Onana is the third most expensive keeper in history, on big money, and he’s been little short of catastrophically bad when viewed as a whole. Sure, there’s been patches of solid form here and there, but a keeper’s job first and foremost is to not lose games for his teams. He’s dumped us out of the champions league single handedly and the Johnson goal in the EL final was hardly glorious keeping. Throw in the countless other howlers, it’s easy to see why people are fed up with him and want him gone. Skin colour doesn’t and shouldn’t come into it.
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
Us agreeing a deal with a club before we even know if he's interested in going there is a fairly clear message to the guy,.

Also unlike Onana Hojlund stood a genuine chance of still been able to fight for his place if he'd stayed given he only had Sesko to compete with, but still decided to go because he wants to play more and prove himself, and also read the situation that he wasn't wanted anymore.

Onana is now clearly third choice in a season where we have 18 games or so less than last year, so you'd conclude that he's not that bothered whether he play or not if he does stay, and will so become another money pit until his contract is up.
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Yeah there's no way he goes from being shoved on loan to starting.
 
Bastian said:
Let's be honest, if he came into pre-season asking for a raise, then of course he's going to still think he's #1 here and not go on loan to a small club in Turkey. The best bet here is that a Saudi club moves for him on a permanent and he's attracted to earning more than he could here.

What we as a club can do is never play him again, which he shouldn't. And he needs to be told his United career is finished. Nothing personal, he's just shite.
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Saudi clubs aren’t coming in for him.
 
The Boy said:
What's a bit weird is the Athletic is reporting that his agent approached the club after he was dropped for the Fulham game to ask if he should look for a new club while the window was still open, but was told that he was part of Amorim's plans. The rumours around another goalkeeper signing were around for much of the summer, so I wonder what changed and why this has only happened when the vast majority of markets are closed.


https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6431666/2025/09/06/andre-onana-manchester-united-trabzonspor-loan/
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It is a bit strange.

Seems like it was either we had to wait for sales on the last day or we were umming and ahing all summer about trying to stick with Onana and Bayindir. Hopefully the former because if we didn't know from the end of last season that we needed a keeper then it is quite poor.
 
Gums said:
That's a strange comment about somebody wishing him well. You don't need to agree, but the world is already full of idiots spreading a negative, hateful attitude. Wishing somebody well is hardly a problem. I'd argue based on your post that your attitude is a bigger problem.
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You don't need to agree with me, in the same way as I didn't agree with the poster whom I replied to. Also you can keep insinuations about my attitude with yourself. Not interested in handling personal attacks in a footy forum. Send Onana a bouquet and a sports car from your high horse. :lol:
 
The Boy said:
What's a bit weird is the Athletic is reporting that his agent approached the club after he was dropped for the Fulham game to ask if he should look for a new club while the window was still open, but was told that he was part of Amorim's plans. The rumours around another goalkeeper signing were around for much of the summer, so I wonder what changed and why this has only happened when the vast majority of markets are closed.


https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6431666/2025/09/06/andre-onana-manchester-united-trabzonspor-loan/
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Well, he was a part of Amorim's plans. And then the Grimsby Town massacre happened.
 
TrueRed79 said:
Berrada is at least sticking to his guns with underperforming two years into your contract. If that's the case, you're out the door. Antony (albeit a loan on year 2), Hojlund and now Onana. This is how you create a winning culture. Underperform and you're out.
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I do believe Hojlund deserved another year but I concur with this philosophy .
 
Devarshi said:
Well, he was a part of Amorim's plans. And then the Grimsby Town massacre happened.
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Would really be incredible if that's true though. If his agent is happy to look for a move and the club is telling him not to that's absolutely woeful on part of the club.
 
Bastian said:
Would really be incredible if that's true though. If his agent is happy to look for a move and the club is telling him not to that's absolutely woeful on part of the club.
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The club was acting on its best intrests until a new keeper signing was confirmed.
Onana is under contract and well paid.
 
pratyush_utd said:
I read in Athletic i think that him getting injured at the start of preseason was because he was out of shape and didnt follow the protocol which Amorim had asked everyone to follow.

And he asked for new contract to cover the loss in wage from no CL qualification after coming back

These 2 issues pissed Amorim and Onana was out of favour after that.

Seems like Amorim and management are taking no nonsense approach. Bomb squad, Rasmus being forced out and now Onana. Dont think Amorim will integrate Onana now and him being 4th choice GK means, he will most likely train with reserves if he stays
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The cheek of him if true. One of the worst culprits and he wants an improved contract
 
He's an idiot if he doesn't go. He's not going to play a minute of football here, and he desperately needs to go somewhere and try to rebuild his image because he's currently an absolute laughing stock
 
Like Hojlund, seems like a player who can't read the room at all. Just accept that you are not wanted.
 
aeh1991 said:
Like Hojlund, seems like a player who can't read the room at all. Just accept that you are not wanted.
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What did Højlund do?
He wound up leaving despite wanting to stay and fight, a young kid who got treated badly and should never have been signed alone to lead the line, the club failed him, and he's a young person that's been a Man Utd fan all his life, can't see anything he did wrong outside the court
 
Rauður Djöfull said:
What did Højlund do?
He wound up leaving despite wanting to stay and fight, a young kid who got treated badly and should never have been signed alone to lead the line, the club failed him, and he's a young person that's been a Man Utd fan all his life, can't see anything he did wrong outside the court
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Agree with this. How dare he getting signed for 70m and wanting to play for his dream club
 
Rauður Djöfull said:
What did Højlund do?
He wound up leaving despite wanting to stay and fight, a young kid who got treated badly and should never have been signed alone to lead the line, the club failed him, and he's a young person that's been a Man Utd fan all his life, can't see anything he did wrong outside the court
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Did he really get treated that badly though? As a football player you are paid a huge amount of money for playing football well. If you don't play well enough then the club will get rid - it comes with the territory. I feel sorry for him on a human level, but he was atrocious last season.
 
lilcurt said:
Must admit, don't like some of the hate on here towards Onana.

He hasn't been a really poor signing, but that is the extent of it. As far as I'm aware he has never been unprofessional or a bad representative of the club, just a player who hasn't been good enough.

I understand (and have been guilty) or it with other players who seemingly dont try or are unprofessional but that isnt the case here.

Not good enough and we need to move him on. I do though hope he does well elsewhere.
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He has been unprofessional.

I'm not sure if you go to the games, but the frustration from the fans to Onana has been growing.

Not just the mistakes he's made, but the lack of urgency, his dicking around at goal kicks when we're losing / drawing, the fake confidence he exudes....

On top of that, him asking for his contract to be topped up is yet another pisstake.

I am not sure on your perspective, but given the amount of money and time I spend to go watch the club, to see this tit gallivanting around the club not giving a crap, just irritates me to no end.

I don't hate the guy, I just think that he's a bellend and want him gone.
 
Rusholme Ruffian said:
Did he really get treated that badly though? As a football player you are paid a huge amount of money for playing football well. If you don't play well enough then the club will get rid - it comes with the territory. I feel sorry for him on a human level, but he was atrocious last season.
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I wouldn't say Hojlund was treated badly exactly but it was criminal to sign a striker with that little amount of top level football and expect him to be our main striker with no one experienced to share the load.
 
Onana asking for a pay increase may not be as straightforward as it looks. Many African footballers use their salaries to help improve the lives of impoverished people back home. Onana does some really good and important work in Cameroon via his Foundation.

In Onana's case:

André Onana supports infrastructure and initiatives back home in Cameroon through the André Onana Foundation, which provides free healthcare and complex surgeries to underprivileged communities in Sub-Saharan Africa by bringing medical professionals to perform procedures. The foundation initially focused on helping blind children but has grown into a broader medical aid organization, receiving humanitarian awards for its work.

How he provides support:
  • André Onana Foundation:
    This is the primary vehicle for his philanthropic efforts.

  • Free Medical Care:
    The foundation organizes surgical campaigns, primarily in Cameroon, where doctors and surgeons from Europe, particularly Spain, provide free medical procedures.

  • Focus on Underserved Communities:
    The goal is to assist children and adults from underprivileged communities who lack access to essential healthcare services and complex surgeries.

  • Partnerships:
    The foundation collaborates with other organizations, such as the Common Goal project for blind orphans in his native country.
Impact of his work:
  • Humanitarian Award:
    His humanitarian efforts have been recognized with awards, acknowledging his commitment to giving back.

  • Community Support:
    Onana stated he has a responsibility to help others because he received support during his own journey, which inspires him to give back to his community.
 
OverratedOpinion said:
I wouldn't say Hojlund was treated badly exactly but it was criminal to sign a striker with that little amount of top level football and expect him to be our main striker with no one experienced to share the load.
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Definitely and being so young he wasn’t able to push on to the other players what his runs would be, where he would demand the ball to go, etc, because he simply didn’t feel
comfortable doing that.
 
dinostar77 said:
Onana asking for a pay increase may not be as straightforward as it looks. Many African footballers use their salaries to help improve the lives of impoverished people back home. Onana does some really good and important work in Cameroon via his Foundation.

In Onana's case:

André Onana supports infrastructure and initiatives back home in Cameroon through the André Onana Foundation, which provides free healthcare and complex surgeries to underprivileged communities in Sub-Saharan Africa by bringing medical professionals to perform procedures. The foundation initially focused on helping blind children but has grown into a broader medical aid organization, receiving humanitarian awards for its work.

How he provides support:
  • André Onana Foundation:
    This is the primary vehicle for his philanthropic efforts.

  • Free Medical Care:
    The foundation organizes surgical campaigns, primarily in Cameroon, where doctors and surgeons from Europe, particularly Spain, provide free medical procedures.

  • Focus on Underserved Communities:
    The goal is to assist children and adults from underprivileged communities who lack access to essential healthcare services and complex surgeries.

  • Partnerships:
    The foundation collaborates with other organizations, such as the Common Goal project for blind orphans in his native country.
Impact of his work:
  • Humanitarian Award:
    His humanitarian efforts have been recognized with awards, acknowledging his commitment to giving back.

  • Community Support:
    Onana stated he has a responsibility to help others because he received support during his own journey, which inspires him to give back to his community.
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Yes but he’s paid to keep goal well and he hasn’t done that.
 
Robertd0803 said:
Some players prefer reading their bank statements than reading the room sadly.
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His 100% salary is covered

So its either delusion that he is good enough for Manutd or he maybe wants free money without playing
 
dinostar77 said:
Onana asking for a pay increase may not be as straightforward as it looks. Many African footballers use their salaries to help improve the lives of impoverished people back home. Onana does some really good and important work in Cameroon via his Foundation.
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Pretty straightforward. If you want a pay rise, you damn well earn it through your performances on the pitch. He wants to earn more money to send back home? That should give him the added motivation of not wanting to let those people down. We aren't a charity.
 
dinostar77 said:
Onana asking for a pay increase may not be as straightforward as it looks. Many African footballers use their salaries to help improve the lives of impoverished people back home. Onana does some really good and important work in Cameroon via his Foundation.

In Onana's case:

André Onana supports infrastructure and initiatives back home in Cameroon through the André Onana Foundation, which provides free healthcare and complex surgeries to underprivileged communities in Sub-Saharan Africa by bringing medical professionals to perform procedures. The foundation initially focused on helping blind children but has grown into a broader medical aid organization, receiving humanitarian awards for its work.

How he provides support:
  • André Onana Foundation:
    This is the primary vehicle for his philanthropic efforts.

  • Free Medical Care:
    The foundation organizes surgical campaigns, primarily in Cameroon, where doctors and surgeons from Europe, particularly Spain, provide free medical procedures.

  • Focus on Underserved Communities:
    The goal is to assist children and adults from underprivileged communities who lack access to essential healthcare services and complex surgeries.

  • Partnerships:
    The foundation collaborates with other organizations, such as the Common Goal project for blind orphans in his native country.
Impact of his work:
  • Humanitarian Award:
    His humanitarian efforts have been recognized with awards, acknowledging his commitment to giving back.

  • Community Support:
    Onana stated he has a responsibility to help others because he received support during his own journey, which inspires him to give back to his community.
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I mean, as lovely as this sounds, why would United give our worst performing player a pay rise?
 
dinostar77 said:
Onana asking for a pay increase may not be as straightforward as it looks. Many African footballers use their salaries to help improve the lives of impoverished people back home. Onana does some really good and important work in Cameroon via his Foundation.

In Onana's case:

André Onana supports infrastructure and initiatives back home in Cameroon through the André Onana Foundation, which provides free healthcare and complex surgeries to underprivileged communities in Sub-Saharan Africa by bringing medical professionals to perform procedures. The foundation initially focused on helping blind children but has grown into a broader medical aid organization, receiving humanitarian awards for its work.

How he provides support:
  • André Onana Foundation:
    This is the primary vehicle for his philanthropic efforts.

  • Free Medical Care:
    The foundation organizes surgical campaigns, primarily in Cameroon, where doctors and surgeons from Europe, particularly Spain, provide free medical procedures.

  • Focus on Underserved Communities:
    The goal is to assist children and adults from underprivileged communities who lack access to essential healthcare services and complex surgeries.

  • Partnerships:
    The foundation collaborates with other organizations, such as the Common Goal project for blind orphans in his native country.
Impact of his work:
  • Humanitarian Award:
    His humanitarian efforts have been recognized with awards, acknowledging his commitment to giving back.

  • Community Support:
    Onana stated he has a responsibility to help others because he received support during his own journey, which inspires him to give back to his community.
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That's all lovely, genuinely. I'm just not entirely sure why that would be relevant.

He also brought a £4 million mansion a few months ago. That's not relevant either.

Fans are annoyed because it showed a huge lack of self awareness and the reasoning he gave about missing his champions League money got up people's noses when he is the player most responsible for us not being in the champions league. Not the only player of course but definitely the most culpable.

He may be a lovely man and incredibly altruistic. Credit to him but fans are totally in the right to find his request laughable and annoying.
 
Steve 007 said:
Before he got to us he got banned for a year for taking his wife’s medication in error thinking it was a normal over the counter pain killer drug. I don’t know about you but I’ve never gone for a paracetamol and thought I don’t know what this is but I’m sure it’s close enough.
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I did that and took two sleeping pills.
 
Remember the geese said:
Pretty straightforward. If you want a pay rise, you damn well earn it through your performances on the pitch. He wants to earn more money to send back home? That should give him the added motivation of not wanting to let those people down. We aren't a charity.
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Lennon7 said:
I mean, as lovely as this sounds, why would United give our worst performing player a pay rise?
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Not disagreeing with either of you. He should operate within his means and he signed for us well knowing that failure to make CL means entire squad take a 25% salary cut.

If getting that 25% back is that important than ask for a transfer to another club,.where you will be paid what you think you are entitled to (not saying that's what you deserve btw).

Just thought it worth pointing out that he does good work with his salary. The optics of him asking for a pay rise were put across incredibly badly. Not that I'm saying he deserves one.
 
Amorim always thought he was a bit shit, but still played him last year over Bayindir. Payrise request didn't make one better over the other suddenly ability wise.
What i'm trying to say is it looks damning on Bayindir too, not that it really needed any confirmation, but barring major flaws in Lammens' game, neither should see much if any gametime anytime soon.
 
dinostar77 said:
Onana asking for a pay increase may not be as straightforward as it looks. Many African footballers use their salaries to help improve the lives of impoverished people back home. Onana does some really good and important work in Cameroon via his Foundation.

In Onana's case:

André Onana supports infrastructure and initiatives back home in Cameroon through the André Onana Foundation, which provides free healthcare and complex surgeries to underprivileged communities in Sub-Saharan Africa by bringing medical professionals to perform procedures. The foundation initially focused on helping blind children but has grown into a broader medical aid organization, receiving humanitarian awards for its work.

How he provides support:
  • André Onana Foundation:
    This is the primary vehicle for his philanthropic efforts.

  • Free Medical Care:
    The foundation organizes surgical campaigns, primarily in Cameroon, where doctors and surgeons from Europe, particularly Spain, provide free medical procedures.

  • Focus on Underserved Communities:
    The goal is to assist children and adults from underprivileged communities who lack access to essential healthcare services and complex surgeries.

  • Partnerships:
    The foundation collaborates with other organizations, such as the Common Goal project for blind orphans in his native country.
Impact of his work:
  • Humanitarian Award:
    His humanitarian efforts have been recognized with awards, acknowledging his commitment to giving back.

  • Community Support:
    Onana stated he has a responsibility to help others because he received support during his own journey, which inspires him to give back to his community.
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A lot of us do charity at the level we can afford. Dont think any of us can ask the company we work for to pay more because of that. Especially not when the company is going to lose money directly from my own performance
 
dinostar77 said:
Onana asking for a pay increase may not be as straightforward as it looks. Many African footballers use their salaries to help improve the lives of impoverished people back home. Onana does some really good and important work in Cameroon via his Foundation.

In Onana's case:

André Onana supports infrastructure and initiatives back home in Cameroon through the André Onana Foundation, which provides free healthcare and complex surgeries to underprivileged communities in Sub-Saharan Africa by bringing medical professionals to perform procedures. The foundation initially focused on helping blind children but has grown into a broader medical aid organization, receiving humanitarian awards for its work.

How he provides support:
  • André Onana Foundation:
    This is the primary vehicle for his philanthropic efforts.

  • Free Medical Care:
    The foundation organizes surgical campaigns, primarily in Cameroon, where doctors and surgeons from Europe, particularly Spain, provide free medical procedures.

  • Focus on Underserved Communities:
    The goal is to assist children and adults from underprivileged communities who lack access to essential healthcare services and complex surgeries.

  • Partnerships:
    The foundation collaborates with other organizations, such as the Common Goal project for blind orphans in his native country.
Impact of his work:
  • Humanitarian Award:
    His humanitarian efforts have been recognized with awards, acknowledging his commitment to giving back.

  • Community Support:
    Onana stated he has a responsibility to help others because he received support during his own journey, which inspires him to give back to his community.
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He's not a bad person, and his charity work isn't justifying him asking to be topped up.
He's just not a good enough goalkeeper.
As much as charity is nice of him to be doing, that's still his private endeavor, we need to function as a winning club and he has cost us points. If CL money was so important to him, he should have done better than to let in the cheapest goal ever in that EL final.
 
dinostar77 said:
Onana asking for a pay increase may not be as straightforward as it looks. Many African footballers use their salaries to help improve the lives of impoverished people back home. Onana does some really good and important work in Cameroon via his Foundation.

In Onana's case:

André Onana supports infrastructure and initiatives back home in Cameroon through the André Onana Foundation, which provides free healthcare and complex surgeries to underprivileged communities in Sub-Saharan Africa by bringing medical professionals to perform procedures. The foundation initially focused on helping blind children but has grown into a broader medical aid organization, receiving humanitarian awards for its work.

How he provides support:
  • André Onana Foundation:
    This is the primary vehicle for his philanthropic efforts.

  • Free Medical Care:
    The foundation organizes surgical campaigns, primarily in Cameroon, where doctors and surgeons from Europe, particularly Spain, provide free medical procedures.

  • Focus on Underserved Communities:
    The goal is to assist children and adults from underprivileged communities who lack access to essential healthcare services and complex surgeries.

  • Partnerships:
    The foundation collaborates with other organizations, such as the Common Goal project for blind orphans in his native country.
Impact of his work:
  • Humanitarian Award:
    His humanitarian efforts have been recognized with awards, acknowledging his commitment to giving back.

  • Community Support:
    Onana stated he has a responsibility to help others because he received support during his own journey, which inspires him to give back to his community.
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That’s not really relevant though is it, unless you’re suggesting we give him a pay raise for charity?

What is relevant is, have his performances so far been enough to warrant a pay rise? The overwhelming answer is no.

What he wants to do with his own money is his choice, he’s well paid as it is
 
dinostar77 said:
Onana asking for a pay increase may not be as straightforward as it looks. Many African footballers use their salaries to help improve the lives of impoverished people back home. Onana does some really good and important work in Cameroon via his Foundation.

In Onana's case:

André Onana supports infrastructure and initiatives back home in Cameroon through the André Onana Foundation, which provides free healthcare and complex surgeries to underprivileged communities in Sub-Saharan Africa by bringing medical professionals to perform procedures. The foundation initially focused on helping blind children but has grown into a broader medical aid organization, receiving humanitarian awards for its work.

How he provides support:
  • André Onana Foundation:
    This is the primary vehicle for his philanthropic efforts.

  • Free Medical Care:
    The foundation organizes surgical campaigns, primarily in Cameroon, where doctors and surgeons from Europe, particularly Spain, provide free medical procedures.

  • Focus on Underserved Communities:
    The goal is to assist children and adults from underprivileged communities who lack access to essential healthcare services and complex surgeries.

  • Partnerships:
    The foundation collaborates with other organizations, such as the Common Goal project for blind orphans in his native country.
Impact of his work:
  • Humanitarian Award:
    His humanitarian efforts have been recognized with awards, acknowledging his commitment to giving back.

  • Community Support:
    Onana stated he has a responsibility to help others because he received support during his own journey, which inspires him to give back to his community.
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I hope he’s better at saving lives than he is at saving shots.
 
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