André Onana | Loaned to Trabzonspor

Onana asking for a pay increase may not be as straightforward as it looks. Many African footballers use their salaries to help improve the lives of impoverished people back home. Onana does some really good and important work in Cameroon via his Foundation.

In Onana's case:

André Onana supports infrastructure and initiatives back home in Cameroon through the André Onana Foundation, which provides free healthcare and complex surgeries to underprivileged communities in Sub-Saharan Africa by bringing medical professionals to perform procedures. The foundation initially focused on helping blind children but has grown into a broader medical aid organization, receiving humanitarian awards for its work.

How he provides support:
  • André Onana Foundation:
    This is the primary vehicle for his philanthropic efforts.

  • Free Medical Care:
    The foundation organizes surgical campaigns, primarily in Cameroon, where doctors and surgeons from Europe, particularly Spain, provide free medical procedures.

  • Focus on Underserved Communities:
    The goal is to assist children and adults from underprivileged communities who lack access to essential healthcare services and complex surgeries.

  • Partnerships:
    The foundation collaborates with other organizations, such as the Common Goal project for blind orphans in his native country.
Impact of his work:
  • Humanitarian Award:
    His humanitarian efforts have been recognized with awards, acknowledging his commitment to giving back.

  • Community Support:
    Onana stated he has a responsibility to help others because he received support during his own journey, which inspires him to give back to his community.
I’d be quite confident in saying that I doubt the foundations see much, if any at all of his salary. Rather he has put his name to the foundation to encourage donors and increase publicity.
 
I’d be quite confident in saying that I doubt the foundations see much, if any at all of his salary. Rather he has put his name to the foundation to encourage donors and increase publicity.
What do you base your “confidence” on?
 
Did he really get treated that badly though? As a football player you are paid a huge amount of money for playing football well. If you don't play well enough then the club will get rid - it comes with the territory. I feel sorry for him on a human level, but he was atrocious last season.
Its weird the different standards for different players. Hojlund was absolute garbage for us and his attitude on the pitch left a lot to be desired.

Throwing tantrums when he continually made wring runs always getting involved in pointless wrestling matches with opponents.

However he says he's a united fan so people go aww poor guy we treated him so poorly i hope he is ok and had a great life
 
I doubt anyone will know this (who knows the fine print on players salary anyway, except maybe their agents) but I will ask it anyway:

So around Tuesday(ish) there was a thread on here about what a loon Onana was as he wanted a pay rise - a pay rise to offset the -25% pay reduction due to no Champions League football...

If this loan to Trabzonspor goes through I wonder what he will get there and how much will be paid by them/by United.

Will he get his 25/26 pay i.e. his contracted pay -25% I think he should. He shouldn't avoid the pay penalty by going out on loan, especially as his only game so far was Grimsby where he was at fault for two goals & didn't do great in the penalty shoot-out except maybe when he scored his own one!
 
Praise the Lord he's gone, even if it's just a loan. One of the worst trasfers in our history who made our rivals incredibly happy.
 
Bit of a gamble going into the season with error-prone Altay, unproven Lammens and a 39 year old who last played in the league in 2020 but feck it, I’m used to the pain.
 
Bit of a gamble going into the season with error-prone Altay, unproven Lammens and a 39 year old who last played in the league in 2020 but feck it, I’m used to the pain.

Altay is a back up keeper at best. Lammens, based on his performances and stats at Antwerp, I'm not very concerned about his ability to be a successful keeper. Suspect we may ditch Altay next summer and recall Vitek as back up, and develop Harrison as the third keeper
 
I mean he almost single handedly got us knocked out the CL with his displays . Started the season getting away with a blatant penalty vs Wolves when he completely missed the ball and took out their player and ended the season letting in a tame Doku shot in the FA Cup final that got City back into the game. Don't think you can call that a decent season.

That was something keepers were doing before and after Onana with little controversy to be fair. Even the Ref on the Var kept saying ''we don't give those''. And they don't/didn't.

I think because of how unbelievably bad he was last season it makes his first season look ok in comparison but really , it was still a poor debut season filled with mistakes. It was just a more regular type of bad in 23/24 as opposed to the historic all timer terrible season in 24/25.

We'll have to agree to disagree then. I think every bit of criticism Onana has received has been deserved, he's just been that bad.

Yeah no worres mate.
 
Onana is a terrible keeper, he was protected at Inter by a hermetically sealed defence. He looks like someone who was never trained in the basic fundamentals of goalkeeping. Any United fan defending him, after watching him for two years, is defending him for the sake of being a “real” fan. He’s abysmal, no other team in the premier league would be interested in him, and I genuinely don’t think he would get into any other PL team. Look at the lower down teams, Dubravka, Kelleher, Hermansen, Perri, Roefs are all better keepers. Onana’s USP was supposed to be his ability with the ball at his feet, well that was proven to be a fallacy.
 
I’d be quite confident in saying that I doubt the foundations see much, if any at all of his salary. Rather he has put his name to the foundation to encourage donors and increase publicity.
You may not be aware of the level of contributions from some players, to those from their home countries where people are alot worse off.

ACCORDING TO CHATGPT

Examples of Players Supporting Their Communities:
  • Sadio Mané (Senegal):
    Beyond the general support for his home region, Mané has funded significant projects in Bambali, such as a hospital and a school, and reportedly provides a monthly stipend to residents, according to Business Insider.

  • Wilfried Zaha (Ivory Coast):
    The Crystal Palace winger donates 10% of his monthly earnings to charity and supports his home country with his finances.

  • Victor Moses (Nigeria):
    The former Super Eagles star has been involved in supporting football development and other projects in his native Nigeria, including donating a football pitch to a community in his hometown.

  • Samuel Eto'o (Cameroon):
    The legendary Cameroon striker has been involved in philanthropic activities in his home country, supporting infrastructure projects and football development,
 
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You may not be aware of the level of contributions from some players, to those from their home countries where people are alot worse off.

Examples of Players Supporting Their Communities:
  • Sadio Mané (Senegal):
    Beyond the general support for his home region, Mané has funded significant projects in Bambali, such as a hospital and a school, and reportedly provides a monthly stipend to residents, according to Business Insider.

  • Wilfried Zaha (Ivory Coast):
    The Crystal Palace winger donates 10% of his monthly earnings to charity and supports his home country with his finances.

  • Victor Moses (Nigeria):
    The former Super Eagles star has been involved in supporting football development and other projects in his native Nigeria, including donating a football pitch to a community in his hometown.

  • Samuel Eto'o (Cameroon):
    The legendary Cameroon striker has been involved in philanthropic activities in his home country, supporting infrastructure projects and football development,
And now in your own words rather than those of ChatGPT.
 
If there's any bother with the wages let me know, I'll cover them.

Get this idiot out of the club and keep him
out.
 
hopefully his loan materialises into him never wearing the Utd shirt again. He was a really poor choice in the first place and had been dining off that Champions League final for Inter.

Doesn’t help when you get ex Pros like Rio coming out with nonsense then amplified by the YouTube mob like Howson ‘A proper Goalie’

All the red flags were there and this isn’t a case of Utd ruining him. Poor technique with his hands, poor decision making and distribution over stated.before he played a single game for us.

Could you provide some evidence of these Whiffs?
Wow,
I’d be quite confident in saying that I doubt the foundations see much, if any at all of his salary. Rather he has put his name to the foundation to encourage donors and increase publicity.
Its the same when Movie stars raised money for charities, and effin Tescos for that matter, it’s never their own money. Anyway you look at it Ohnana is a cheeky so and so, he’s on double at least his last job , according to transfermrkt he was a free transfer, before we spent 50m. Had all the charity he’s getting hopefully.
 
Onana asking for a pay increase may not be as straightforward as it looks. Many African footballers use their salaries to help improve the lives of impoverished people back home. Onana does some really good and important work in Cameroon via his Foundation.

In Onana's case:

André Onana supports infrastructure and initiatives back home in Cameroon through the André Onana Foundation, which provides free healthcare and complex surgeries to underprivileged communities in Sub-Saharan Africa by bringing medical professionals to perform procedures. The foundation initially focused on helping blind children but has grown into a broader medical aid organization, receiving humanitarian awards for its work.

How he provides support:
  • André Onana Foundation:
    This is the primary vehicle for his philanthropic efforts.

  • Free Medical Care:
    The foundation organizes surgical campaigns, primarily in Cameroon, where doctors and surgeons from Europe, particularly Spain, provide free medical procedures.

  • Focus on Underserved Communities:
    The goal is to assist children and adults from underprivileged communities who lack access to essential healthcare services and complex surgeries.

  • Partnerships:
    The foundation collaborates with other organizations, such as the Common Goal project for blind orphans in his native country.
Impact of his work:
  • Humanitarian Award:
    His humanitarian efforts have been recognized with awards, acknowledging his commitment to giving back.

  • Community Support:
    Onana stated he has a responsibility to help others because he received support during his own journey, which inspires him to give back to his community.
Why does it make it less straightforward? There are no public available financial reports but on the foundation’s website it says that it has raised “+ 100,000 thousands of U.S. dollars in aid” (which seems unlikely as it’s $100m, so more likely it’s simply more than $100k).

That’s less than his reduced weekly salary. He’s doing a good job with the foundation but he’s not putting most of his money in it and he’s not struggling financially. Also, as cynically as it sounds, it’s his own responsibility, the club isn’t responsible for it. You don’t ask for a raise just because you support charities… at best you can ask for some tax relief.
 
Altay is a back up keeper at best. Lammens, based on his performances and stats at Antwerp, I'm not very concerned about his ability to be a successful keeper. Suspect we may ditch Altay next summer and recall Vitek as back up, and develop Harrison as the third keeper
Yes, judging by Vitek's performances at Bristol City I think it will be him and Lammens going forward
 


At least one thing that most, if not all, MU fans can agree on with Amorim.

Also several rumors on Twitter that Onana is willing to go to Trabzonspor, we'll see I guess.
 
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Will he get his 25/26 pay i.e. his contracted pay -25% I think he should. He shouldn't avoid the pay penalty by going out on loan, especially as his only game so far was Grimsby where he was at fault for two goals & didn't do great in the penalty shoot-out except maybe when he scored his own one!
Why would going out on loan get rid of the penalty? We remain not in the Champions League so that is legally watertight. Of course Trabzonspor could choose to pay him insane wages but I very much doubt they are paying for our contractual obligations in full.
 
BTW, one of Turkey's big 4 is just about the last place in the world I would go to if I'm a terrible keeper. He'll need an army of bodyguards.
 
Onana is a terrible keeper, he was protected at Inter by a hermetically sealed defence. He looks like someone who was never trained in the basic fundamentals of goalkeeping. Any United fan defending him, after watching him for two years, is defending him for the sake of being a “real” fan. He’s abysmal, no other team in the premier league would be interested in him, and I genuinely don’t think he would get into any other PL team. Look at the lower down teams, Dubravka, Kelleher, Hermansen, Perri, Roefs are all better keepers. Onana’s USP was supposed to be his ability with the ball at his feet, well that was proven to be a fallacy.
Exactly. Trabzonspor says it all about him. It’s not even Fenerbahce, Galatasaray or Besiktas signing him. He’s going to the Turkish Spurs.
 
I’d be quite confident in saying that I doubt the foundations see much, if any at all of his salary. Rather he has put his name to the foundation to encourage donors and increase publicity.

Don't agree with this at all. Even locally here, there is a semi-pro player who came from a refugee camp originally from the DR Congo that sends every dollar he makes back to his local town and club. I think African players are very benevolent with their earnings.
 
If we’ve told Onana he’s third choice and he wants to guarantee playing in the African Nations Cup, he must surely accept.

Otherwise he sits in the stands all season and risks his international career becoming a thing of the past.
 
I doubt anyone will know this (who knows the fine print on players salary anyway, except maybe their agents) but I will ask it anyway:

So around Tuesday(ish) there was a thread on here about what a loon Onana was as he wanted a pay rise - a pay rise to offset the -25% pay reduction due to no Champions League football...

If this loan to Trabzonspor goes through I wonder what he will get there and how much will be paid by them/by United.

Will he get his 25/26 pay i.e. his contracted pay -25% I think he should. He shouldn't avoid the pay penalty by going out on loan, especially as his only game so far was Grimsby where he was at fault for two goals & didn't do great in the penalty shoot-out except maybe when he scored his own one!
Like any loan, the payment as per his contract needs to be met. It’s between the club and the club that wants to loan to figure out who is paying it all or what %
 
It is a genuine thing though, we have a rule that people cannot use AI to write their posts. They can use it to look for facts but they must acknowledge, for example “According to ChatGPT, it tells us that he has a charitable foundation..”
Don’t get yourself points for using AI to write posts. We want to talk to posters with their own opinion, not AI