The tax rate in Turkey is much lower. There were reports last year that he favoured the move because it would give him more take home pay.
André Onana | Loaned to Trabzonspor
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Half his value each year vs all his value in one year. Which is more important now we have SCR instead of PSR. Plus the prospect of losing another loan fee next summer of course.
Fantastic news. I wouldn't want to see Onana in a United shirt ever again, so a loan is good enough to keep him away.
No
Are they paying 100% of his salary? If they are then I have no issues whatsoever with the loan extension.
It’s a bit of a comedown isn’t it? Ajax to Champions League finalists Inter to big contract at Manchester United to a non-Istanbul club in Turkey at what should be his peak years. Anyway, good to see the problem is at least kicked down the road for another year.
My guess is not, if it's true he is on 150k, it might negatively influence their wage hierarchy. But it's possible that the fee covers for any difference.
But this is only my (non) educated guess.
I think one of the issues is that legally we cannot exclude him from training. I think the feeling was we wanted something in place so he didn't turn up at Carrington first day of preseason training and stink up the place.
Hard to tell. The club President was being quoted at the end of the season saying that they were going to bring Onana back and that covering his wages even with the increase for CL qualification he was due from United was not expected to be a problem. I have no idea if that is truly the case because it seems Turkey operates a similar system to Spain where the clubs leaders are elected and so the promises they make in public are not always to be trusted. I do think the fact they claimed they could afford him and a deal has been done so swiftly points towards them maybe truly being able to pay 100% of his salary.
Like a new non-signing.
People live in a dream world where there are no consequences for us spending tens of millions on crap players and giving them wages far higher than their talent deserved.
They seem to believe that we can simply tell clubs we want £30-40 million and we'll get it, and that we're apparently just choosing not to.
I imagine we would have let them have him for essentially a free transfer if PSR wasn't a thing.
They would be crazy to pay his book value so a new loan every year with a loan fee is the best we can hope for.
They would be crazy to pay his book value so a new loan every year with a loan fee is the best we can hope for.
Oh hell yes.
Murtough and Ten Hag really did try to break us totally in 2 years.
So many problems we have faced in the last year.
Antony, Sancho, Hojlund and Onana all out on loans then little or no money back for them.
Mount crocked but on huge money. The contract they gave Rashford making it impossible to move him for anything reasonable.
Hideous
So many problems we have faced in the last year.
Antony, Sancho, Hojlund and Onana all out on loans then little or no money back for them.
Mount crocked but on huge money. The contract they gave Rashford making it impossible to move him for anything reasonable.
Hideous
People moaning about no sale just have to remember that we are in a terrible negotiating position and he just isn't that attractive as a player. Just happy that we have Lammens instead and that he won't be around the squad.
Can we do a multi-year loan?
Swap him for Oulai, dammit!
Contracted until ‘28. We’ll probably agree to a contract termination (or another loan, same thing) next summer.
I love we just booted him out on loan without even putting up a fight. Just get outta here! 
Didnt even shop around for a better deal, love it.
Player who basically fecked up Amorim alone. Now we cant get any fee for him. Hope we learn from this and all the contract extensions
The outcome felt inevitable but I’m genuinely chuffed it’s been done so early on in the window.
If they cover his wages and there is a loan fee then that’s as good a deal as we were going to get. No one was going to buy him for the kind of fee we’d need to sell for so getting this done quickly is a big positive and pretty much the best case scenario.
Yup, our squad when Ten Hag left was by far the weakest United PL squad. Just awful with so many high wage contracts to boot.
The wages appear to be what have killed us, but it was the right decision to loan him out given that no-one will pay £20m/£25m, which is what was needed to avoid an accounting loss under PSR rules.
Yeah, that's the only thing that went wrong under Amorim. How many games did Onana play last season again? He fecked up ETH way more.Not sure how legit it is, but have seen tweets by Romano and others that Onana's loan deal has been agreed for another season. FFS we are just gonna keep loaning him till his contract ends it seems.
Yep. I was delighted Woodward fecked off, but little did I know that what was to follow would be as fecking bad for us, if not worse.
Less said about ten Hag, the better.
We're getting good money for Hojlund. agree with the rest.
A £20m loss?
Was always going to be a loan again for this season, next year might be different. Can't complain at getting it done nice and early to avoid him having to report back for pre-season.
He's a very, very shit player on a very high wage. You don't blame your new joiner when they struggle to rebuild the sex swing your previous tradie botched the job on.
And at least that can hold onto balls
To be fair I'd definitely live in a place like Trabzon if I had the chance.
Surprised it was that easy considering his wages would've gone up with CL football.
It's unreal that people still hold this opinion.
A smarter club would’ve convinced both the player and a Saudi club and got a better deal out of it. Liverpool got Saudi to buy Nunez, Fabinho and Henderson. If we had Nunez, we’d be sponsoring his career around different European leagues.
Why is it always our players who are happy to hold the club on to their wages, and then get a pick of where they want to go?
Why is it always our players who are happy to hold the club on to their wages, and then get a pick of where they want to go?
In this case although it is a loss on the original price he was 3 years into a 5 year contract and so the amount actually more than covered his value in our accounts and would show a profit in this years trading.
That's just accountancy though isn't it?
The club is £20m+ worse off based on that deal than we would have been without it when looking at the transfer fees.
He was the least shite out of those I mentioned and a nice lad but it should definitely be included in the list of Murtough masterstrokes. Paying that money for him after a few months of decent form in a very average Serie A.
Oh without question we overpaid initially but at least it is a relief that he was moved on easily and for the purposes of this summers transfer activity I think it equates to around a 20M Euro profit which is helpful. I find it amazing that Murtough has found a good job based on his track record with us but then maybe that was Atalanta rewarding him for paying so much for Hojlund in the first place.