André Onana | Loaned to Trabzonspor

Oh without question we overpaid initially but at least it is a relief that he was moved on easily and for the purposes of this summers transfer activity I think it equates to around a 20M Euro profit which is helpful. I find it amazing that Murtough has found a good job based on his track record with us but then maybe that was Atalanta rewarding him for paying so much for Hojlund in the first place.
I think some credit goes to Hojlund who actually moved on without causing a fuss, evidently gave his best then didn't drag us over wages.

It's shocking, no idea what Atalanta's transfer business has looked like but I would not hold out hope for them.
 
Biggest fraud brought by another useless fraud(TenHag).

I dont blame Onana for his price but the more I think about our transfers in 2022 and 23 seasons, I detest TenHag from the bottom of my heart.

Letting him choose all the deals through his agency proves the ineptness of Richard Arnold and John and we can say it is one of the wrost periods in history (spending wise).

I wish they kept Ralf in DoF position for those 2 years instead of sending him out by paying full compensation
 
All things considered this particular case has been handled brilliantly.

Onana is one of the worst transfers not only in United's history, but arguably in modern football. We got completely fooled by Inter's Champions League run, where his distribution looked worldclass, especially in the final against City. Looking back, it also exposed how poor our scouting was. Plenty of Ajax fans warned us about his lack of concentration and his tendency to make schoolboy mistakes. Those flaws weren't hidden or newly developed they were well documented. The scouts should have known better instead of focusing almost exclusively on his ability with the ball at his feet.

In hindsight, we probably should have moved on after his first season. His stock hadn't completely collapsed at that point, and we might still have been able to recoup £25-30 million by convincing another club that it had simply been a difficult first year in a new league. Instead, we doubled down, and his value continued to fall. More importantly, he cost us countless points, cup ties and European nights. Every goalkeeper makes mistakes, but with Onana they became a recurring theme rather than isolated incidents. Eventually, the pressure seemed to affect him even more, creating a vicious cycle where every error only led to another.

Of course, hindsight is a luxury, and perhaps the hierarchy genuinely believed he would improve. After all, plenty of players struggle in their first season before turning things around. Unfortunately, Onana did the opposite. His second season wasn't a redemption story, it simply confirmed that the first wasn't an anomaly or an adjustment period.

By the end, he was, by a considerable margin, one of the poorest goalkeepers in the Premier League history. He became a meme, and his reputation took such a hit that it's difficult to imagine any club in Europe's top leagues paying a transfer fee for him. That's how quickly his market collapsed.

Considering all that, the fact we've found a club willing not only to pay his wages in full but also to pay a loan fee is excellent business. That's probably the best outcome anyone could realistically have expected. I have little doubt he would already have been released if not for PSR. Writing off his remaining book value in one go would have been costly, so a loan that removes his wages from the payroll while generating a fee is about as good as it gets.

There's virtually no chance anyone pays a meaningful transfer fee for him now, so simply getting his wages off the books is already a win. Eventually, he'll leave on a free when his contract expires, and we can only hope Trabzonspor, or another club, is willing to keep covering his wages until then. Given where we were a year ago, that's a far better outcome than I ever expected.
 
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Was hoping to see he'd been sold, but most importantly he's not coming back here next season and now knows he's not a part of our plans going forwards.

Hopefully Trabzonspor decide to make the deal permanent at some stage.
 
Was hoping to see he'd been sold, but most importantly he's not coming back here next season and now knows he's not a part of our plans going forwards.

Hopefully Trabzonspor decide to make the deal permanent at some stage.
We’re getting a £1.5m loan fee, which is about £1.8m more than he’s worth.

Next summer, he only has a year left, so any loan fee may as well be a transfer fee. What a truly abysmal player.
 
:lol: Yeah, that's the only thing that went wrong under Amorim. How many games did Onana play last season again? He fecked up ETH way more.
what are you alguhing at he fecked up so many games and killed any sort of confidence in the team. Since Lemmens we are just hoofing the ball up and confidence is much bigger despite not having the best gameplan, we trust ourselves. EL final aslo cost us, things like that change everything. Same for the time when Amorim was sacked, if we had Lemmens, and not Bayindir with Onana we would have been comfortable top 3. He was sacked one point from top4. What you dont understand on this?
 
what are you alguhing at he fecked up so many games and killed any sort of confidence in the team. Since Lemmens we are just hoofing the ball up and confidence is much bigger despite not having the best gameplan, we trust ourselves. EL final aslo cost us, things like that change everything. Same for the time when Amorim was sacked, if we had Lemmens, and not Bayindir with Onana we would have been comfortable top 3. He was sacked one point from top4. What you dont understand on this?
Again, how many games did Onana play for us last season? I am laughing because the statement that he "fecked up Amorim alone" is completely laughable.
 
Again, how many games did Onana play for us last season? I am laughing because the statement that he "fecked up Amorim alone" is completely laughable.
Once again if you dont understand it pal. I mentioned Onana and Bayindir. Bayindir started the season and made crucial mistakes which put early pressure on us. Onana played in Grimsby fiasco and before that in the EL final which totally broke us. The team was so fragile we asked 23 yo Lemmens to take over. But the tactics had to change drastically because there was too much pressure on the keeper and the whole team. If you change the tactics as dramatically it will effect the team confidence in the manager and until then we played different football. We stopped creating chances as smooth as before, because we reverted to a hybrid safe style.

If Onana and Bayindir didnt commit incredible number of howlers we'd never revert into something what we did last season after 7 games in, when the pressure mounted so high. The Grimsby defeat was the last straw in the teams confidence which Onana featured heavily.
 
Once again if you dont understand it pal. I mentioned Onana and Bayindir. Bayindir started the season and made crucial mistakes which put early pressure on us. Onana played in Grimsby fiasco and before that in the EL final which totally broke us. The team was so fragile we asked 23 yo Lemmens to take over. But the tactics had to change drastically because there was too much pressure on the keeper and the whole team. If you change the tactics as dramatically it will effect the team confidence in the manager and until then we played different football. We stopped creating chances as smooth as before, because we reverted to a hybrid safe style.

If Onana and Bayindir didnt commit incredible number of howlers we'd never revert into something what we did last season after 7 games in, when the pressure mounted so high. The Grimsby defeat was the last straw in the teams confidence which Onana featured heavily.
Mentioning the EL final is ironic considering Onana didn't make us lose it and Amorim did with his cowardly approach to the game. As always with him it's excuses, excuses and more excuses.
 
I wonder what's the setup with these loans? Are they paying us a fee or just covering his wages until he can leave on a free? I wonder would it not be the same thing to sell him for a decent fee and cover a part of his wages until his contract expires? That way we don't have to do this every summer. Same with Rashford etc
 
Well, my work here is done.
What do you mean your work is done? You didn't do anything.
Didn't I?
*Teleports to Turkey
 
That "Good Luck" is clearly written by someone from Cork. Where it means the total opposite when said sarcastically.
 
That was reported by BBC. United can't honestly expect better than that, he is one of the worst among a generally bad bunch of signings made during that era.
He is comfortably the worst signing the club has ever made in any era.
 
I'd argue Sancho was even worse, but yeah these two were a disaster.
Sancho resembled a footballer and it was mostly about his attitude and application. Nothing about Onana and his 'technique' said he was an elite player, certainly not worth an elite sum. Whoever ultimately sanctioned Onana wants firing in to the sun.