Even Pep had experience with Barca B. The same as Ole with our reserves, and Zidane with Madrid Castilla. They’d worked at the club in a managerial capacity already. Arteta and Pirlo are just weird though. Total shots in the dark.
Is that even a question. Frank wasn't that bad, just not good enough. Pirlo is atrocious. He's doing what Moyes did to us. Taking something that's working and completely destroying it.
Pirlo. He has ronaldo and still has his side 5th in a one man league.
Even Arteta had coaching experience. Pirlo had none.
Frank will make a solid manager one day. He wasn’t ready for Chelsea
As a number 2 anyway, still a massive gamble to go from that to sole manager. It would be like Ole leaving tomorrow and us putting Carrick in charge permanently with no trial period.
Frank qualified for the ucl last year in the PL. Pirlo is failing in serie a with Ronaldo.
He probably would have turned out alright if he didn't go for such a huge job without experience. Zidane, Pep, Ole, Frank and even Arteta worked in some capacity as a coach/manager before being given their top job. This dude woke up and became Juventus manager.
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Yep, but then look at the Pirlo situation. It would be like if Carrick got the job before he even became an assistant coach for years.
After winning 9 league titles in a row, Juve said "feck it, why not"?It’s beyond mental how he got the job. He managed the U23s for 9 days ffs.
It's a serious question. At the time he was appointed, he hadn't got his badges. Don't know about now.
Frank at least did an ok job at Derby. Pirlo and Lego Pep is a more interesting question.
Exactly this. Pirlo was never gonna succeed. They took the Guardiola or Zidane "formula" to a ridiculious extent
Agreed. Zidane even had a good experience as an assistant, Pep worked with their kids I think but like you said, the pieces were there already and he was part of their hierarchy longer than Pirlo. I don't know how much better they expected their team to be in comparison to Sarri's
Any [insert dominant team] still needs its fair of share of good investment to keep the level high. Juventus would have still struggled with any other experienced manager IMHO this year.
That notion has never been closed to correct whenever someone makes it they are either trolling or stupid.
Investment wasn't the problem. We made some more important investments, although the value of these investments and their priorities could be questioned. I expected us to struggle a little more as well this season and did expect Inter to win the Scudetto. But the squad is still good enough to finish third at least and the fact that we are struggling that much to reach top 4 (at this rate we will finish 6th) and have not developed an identity all season is down to coaching (or lack of it).
That's what I meant. Bad investments is worse than no investments
Not signing Ronaldo for 100m and a ridiculously expensive wage would have been a good start. That move was baffling at the time and even more baffling in hindsight, they were building a very solid team and totally destroyed that momentum with one move.
They quite apparently thought a substantial gain in social media following was worth abandoning an even, well-constructed quality team.
I would imagine the top players weren’t doing what he wanted them to do in his system. Can you imagine LvG trying to coach Ronaldo. It was probably quite similar.
I heard also that they are interested only in last 15 minutes of the game
They should be begging for him to. Conte will have free reign again next seasono if they don’t
