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Be nice to see how he gets along for United. Playing in the premier league for United, is what he should be judged on. Not how he got on in a terrible team in Spain.
He's a CM and is normally tenacious enough to tackle/make his presence known. He's pretty robust and comparisons to Modric in terms of style or CM are not too far wide of the mark.
I get that but he's not busy enough to be compared to Modric or Mata. These players are constantly on the move where he's static. Don't get me wrong, lovely player but just not sure. I think he's more suited to a traditional 442 midfield and there's a lot of players that struggle in a 3.
I know, but what's your point?
He looked plenty busy enough at Granada last season and has typically quite a busy style, he was however yesterday being used deeper in CM so may have had more of a sitting role than he traditionally does.
This bloody hell. He could only play against what was in front of him. He read the game well, closed passing channels and built the play from the back superbly. I am sure Jose was impressed.
Point being what does his season in Spain have to do with this coming season 2017/18. Hate to have to point that out to you as seems a tad demeaning to have to explain it.
Alright pal
He's very tidy in possession. Cliche but his addition would be 'like a new signing.'
Hmm, strange logic..
What? So past performances - from literally months ago - are irrelevant to discuss today?
Obviously as he was playing for a different club, in a different league/ country. A club who are a million miles away in terms of pressure and expectations on the players. I'm sure there's a thread if you wish to discuss his previous performances whilst in Spain.
He really grew into the game. The first half of that video is a series of backward passes and timid turns towards his own goal. I think he'll need a few games to get over his nerves.
Your joking right?
I've said it wasn't a negative performance. Okay he's made one neat turn that caught the eye, yet remind me who was he playing against? And if my memory from the middle of the night serves me right wasn't the first half team of LA Galaxy consisting mostly of their subs. I remember Cleverley looking best for us, though not spectacular of course, in single or maybe even two pre seasons.
He played in the 2nd half which was against their usual 1st 11.
Yes I've pulled an all nighter to watch our game and can't really shake off some after effects, thus excuse me for swapping both halves. However the point still is that the 1st team of LA Galaxy is placed at fourth from the bottom of Western Conference, which means that they aren't an opposition of good enough standard to drew some blown up conclusions from 45 minutes of play and the same applies to 36 years old Carrick in regards to the upcoming season. He has all the right attributes to play this position and a couple of others on the pitch. What exactly doesnt he have to be able to play this position? Its a preseason game, its exactly where coaches try things out.
I've observed with great interest few of our players in last night's game, Pereira being one of them. Seriously if you did some digging you could find similar to yours words of praise addressed towards Cleverley back in the days. Let me be clear Pereira is more talented, but it wasn't a test that I feel the Brazilian has passed yesterday. It's a matter of scaled challenge. The bar was set quite low and I wasn't left impressed with what I saw. If he was fielded against PL opposition in more competitive environment and played likewise he'd get crashed on the field as well as here on the forums, just like it happened with many young players before.
I stand by my conclusion that Pereira isn't made for this position. The sooner we scrap this experiment the better for the everyone involved.
You loved Cleverley and always told everyone they didn't have a clue if they questioned him, so I don't understand why you'd think that was so offensive. Very unusual
2 very different types of player. Its a weird comparison. They have very different attributes.
So 45 minutes in a friendly isn't enough evidence to start getting carried away. But for writing him off? No further proof needed.
I've observed with great interest few of our players in last night's game, Pereira being one of them. Seriously if you did some digging you could find similar to yours words of praise addressed towards Cleverley back in the days. Let me be clear Pereira is more talented, but it wasn't a test that I feel the Brazilian has passed yesterday. It's a matter of scaled challenge. The bar was set quite low and I wasn't left impressed with what I saw. If he was fielded against PL opposition in more competitive environment and played likewise he'd get crashed on the field as well as here on the forums, just like it happened with many young players before.
I stand by my conclusion that Pereira isn't made for this position. The sooner we scrap this experiment the better for the everyone involved.
Stolen from reddit. "Pereira sending LA Galaxy player to have a chat with Lindelof"
Interesting point - i hope our youngsters can step up!
It's the case of differences between situations when a player doesn't excel against a weak opponent and when he actually leaves a mark on a game against a quality team. First one suggests it's not worth it to continue with the setup (especially if it's an experiment), while the other gives you strong arguments for potential success. Like it's so much easier to predict who won't make it at the club than who will.So 45 minutes in a friendly isn't enough evidence to start getting carried away. But for writing him off? No further proof needed.
I'm sending you to my first post here which you've quoted with emphasis on defensive responsibilities interwined with playing in that role.
Your logic being we should only judge him on this one pre-season game except we also shouldn't because the opposition wasn't good enough so we should judge him on... nothing. In other words not praise him at all. But it's still okay to say he's not good enough. Gotcha
I think I see what happened. You must have been quite drunk if you can't even remember which half he played in. Don't worry, we've all been there
Really? That sounds fantastic.
