Ekeke
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Sliding tackleThought a tackle from behind was a red card.
Sliding tackleThought a tackle from behind was a red card.
But why give the referee the option that he can give the red card? Like a poster earlier mentioned, the german commentators were interpeting it as a possible red card. The Dutch commentators did the same.No he couldn't
In no world do you get a red card in the Premier League for that.
Overall i think this is the best way summarize Andreas Pereira as a football player. Not just because of that moment with Sterling but also because of the position he took when James ran with the ball or in other games when he takes a shot when it clearly is the wrong option. He seems to have a good attitude and even his technical ability isnt bad but he just isnt a very smart footballer. Maybe it can improve with time and experience but he shouldnt be improving that at Manchester United but at a club like Watford...Brainless player
He's not given him the option because it's not a red card. No one has ever been sent off in the Premier league for that sort of challenge (and no, it was nothing like Wayne Rooney's red card.) so why would they start now?But why give the referee the option that he can give the red card? Like a poster earlier mentioned, the german commentators were interpeting it as a possible red card. The Dutch commentators did the same.
That's like a thing that has always been said but it isn't in the laws of the game.Thought a tackle from behind was a red card.
Yeah he's been quite disappointing since coming into senior football. He's another Macheda/ Januzaj. Doesn't have what it takes to make the step up. Also no idea what his actual position is. Winger? Too slow. #10? Decision making poor. CDM? Gives away too many fouls/ passing not good enough. Doesn't really do anything well, kind of a jack of all trades.Used to be so good at youth level. Thought for sure he'd be a star
Alternatively, Scott was probably one of the worst players I watched at U23 level. Yet in the big scene he's three times the player Andreas is.Used to be so good at youth level. Thought for sure he'd be a star
Zero tolerance for the tackle from behindHe's not given him the option because it's not a red card. No one has ever been sent off in the Premier league for that sort of challenge (and no, it was nothing like Wayne Rooney's red card.) so why would they start now?
That's like a thing that has always been said but it isn't in the laws of the game.
That's an article from 1998!!Zero tolerance for the tackle from behind
Prior to the 1998 World Cup, FIFA made the tackle from behind a red card offence. He could have been sent off mate.
SENDING-OFF OFFENCES
A player, substitute or substituted player who commits any of the following offences is sent off:
denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity by a handball offence (except a goalkeeper within their penalty area)
denying a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity to an opponent whose overall movement is towards the offender's goal by an offence punishable by a free kick (unless as outlined below)
serious foul play
biting or spitting at someone
violent conduct
using offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or gestures
receiving a second caution in the same match
entering the video operation room (VOR)
A player, substitute or substituted player who has been sent off must leave the vicinity of the field of play and the technical area.
Yes , I know all the rules,. This Rule haven't been enforced in England as much as in other Countries, where it is a sending off. He could easily have got a red card if it was Europa League game. That's all I'm sayingThat's an article from 1998!!
Look at the actual laws of the game... Zero mentions of tackles from behind
Anyways been a fan of this lad, but unfortunately I haven't seen the step up to this level that is required so far. His commitment is first class, and that could be where his problems lay. He seems too keen to get in and mix it with the opposition straight from the off, where as perhaps he should build himself into the game. I'm not a football manager, so I would be unsure where to play him for the betterment of the team, and with Pogba seemingly available again soon, the possibility of signings in January, and the emergence of Garner, Gomes, Levitt etc, I think he has few games left to prove his worth. Would love to see him make it, but he may have missed the boat.Yeah he's been quite disappointing since coming into senior football. He's another Macheda/ Januzaj. Doesn't have what it takes to make the step up. Also no idea what his actual position is. Winger? Too slow. #10? Decision making poor. CDM? Gives away too many fouls/ passing not good enough. Doesn't really do anything well, kind of a jack of all trades.
Great argument...Pereira’s challenge was obviously going to get a yellow and he did it deliberately. It was a good yellow to get, smart foul. No clue why anyone here would consider that being a red, unless they haven’t watched any football before.
You are Correct. But unfortunately a lot of people watch football without knowing the Rules.Great argument...
As mentioned before a German and Dutch commentator, independant of eachother, mentioned that a red card couldnt be excluded. You know... people who literally watch football as a job. Same for the posters here, i am pretty sure they watched football before.
And no, it wasnt a smart foul. He did have to make the foul but he didnt do it in a smart way at all. That is what people are argueing about.
And yes, in most situations in England he wouldnt get a red card. In a European game the chances of getting a red card would have been higher and personally i wouldnt even mind if they changed to rules so kicking someone with force, from behind, without any intention of getting the ball but just to stop play would be punished with a red card.
I'd love to see a concrete example cited of someone getting a red card for that, I've never seen it. A commentator's job is to create talking points to maintain interest, some will say anything to do so. This person writes about football for a living, and they've decided to go down the route of Rashford's penalty against Man City as a debate. But it's not a debate, it was a clear penalty. Does this mean I should take seriously the view? No.Great argument...
As mentioned before a German and Dutch commentator, independant of eachother, mentioned that a red card couldnt be excluded. You know... people who literally watch football as a job. Same for the posters here, i am pretty sure they watched football before.
And no, it wasnt a smart foul. He did have to make the foul but he didnt do it in a smart way at all. That is what people are argueing about.
And yes, in most situations in England he wouldnt get a red card. In a European game the chances of getting a red card would have been higher and personally i wouldnt even mind if they changed to rules so kicking someone with force, from behind, without any intention of getting the ball but just to stop play would be punished with a red card.
Knowing his decision making, I didn't expect him to think about all those aspects. He is as simple-minded as one can be.There is an art to doing these sort of tactical fouls, you have to make it look like it's just an accidental trip.
Same thing happened at my broadcast (Serbian or Croatian commentator) mentioned a red card because he is total hypocrite and a Liverpool fan, if it was a Scouse player doing it (or probably any other club except United) he wouldn’t be talking shit like that.Great argument...
As mentioned before a German and Dutch commentator, independant of eachother, mentioned that a red card couldnt be excluded. You know... people who literally watch football as a job. Same for the posters here, i am pretty sure they watched football before.
And no, it wasnt a smart foul. He did have to make the foul but he didnt do it in a smart way at all. That is what people are argueing about.
And yes, in most situations in England he wouldnt get a red card. In a European game the chances of getting a red card would have been higher and personally i wouldnt even mind if they changed to rules so kicking someone with force, from behind, without any intention of getting the ball but just to stop play would be punished with a red card.
Yeah this is the most disappointing bit about him. His youth team performances promised so much more.Used to be so good at youth level. Thought for sure he'd be a star
He wasnt anything special in Spain though.Used to be so good at youth level. Thought for sure he'd be a star
He showed skill and technique but tbh he never showed anything outstanding physically or mentally. Can't say I'm surprised he never stepped up to the required level.Yeah this is the most disappointing bit about him. His youth team performances promised so much more.
I watched him for Valencia too and was wondering what he was actually good at then a bit like now. Back when they had Guedes flying down their wing and Pereira doing a whole lot of nothing.He wasnt anything special in Spain though.
I didnt like that Mourinho refused to use him and never gave him a chance. Ole now has given him a chance and it turns out he just isnt good enough.
Im pretty sure he just doesnt see the passing options. When he has a bit of space he will shoot. It worked last season against Southampton though...Decent but too predictable in that he’s always going to shoot if he’s got any chance of getting a shot off.
This is a Depay syndrome. He is clearly capable of doing amazing things with a ball, which is something that every United fan that followed our academy would tell you, but he just doesn't have the speed of thought to do it at the top level. Hence why Pereira is quite good at set pieces and can produce an incredible cross or a shot when he is not under direct pressure. And when he has a little more time and a little less pressure, he can showcase his whole arsenal.Where's that Andreas been all his life? Skills galore