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Andy Mitten column: At Manchester United, things are very bad – and could get worse
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
Hadn’t considered that. You may be right
That certainly is a part of it, but the Lightning have somewhat bucked that trend in recent years with playoff runs. Thing is that the Rays made the playoffs from 2008 to 2013 but didn’t gain the same percentage of attendance increase (roughly around 13K) as the Lightning did coming out of their absolute hell during much the same time. Granted, hockey is a more violent & intimate sport than baseball, intimate in that many great hockey arenas have stands that are built vertically off the ice to keep the sound of the fans on top of the ice & right in front of the fans, but with the exception of the Lightning winning the Stanley Cup in 2004, the playoff records of both the Rays & the Lightning, expansion teams that came into existence within a couple of years of one another, are somewhat similar. Both have far surpassed the Bucs’ playoff records over the past decade.
The Bucs will always have at least 50000 fans in the stadium, so, like the poster who wrote about the attendance rank earlier said, the Glazers will never feel the attendance slipping away due to the welfare state. There are definitely opposing fans en masse in RJ Stadium as well.
I have thought recently what would be the consistent attendance number in OT needs to get to in order to give the Glazers pause & realize how challenging the situation is.
Only issue I have with that article is that the under 18s are okay, 4th in their league and have often looked alright, but he presumably purposely only mentions the cup run.
Other than that, we're in big trouble.
Other than that, we're in big trouble.
The crisis actors make more with doom mongering.
Took them about 15 years and Fergie did the best he could, but the Glazers have ruined this club.
One of the few things that motivated me for next season, giving a shot to the kids in EL, cups, and some isolated games here and there and we won't have it either, apparently.
As long as they get full houses they will be happy. They always say match revenue does not matter. Now if TV revenue dropped because nobody wants to watch us, who knows. Value of sponsorship deals dropping and impacting on the value of the club? Now there is a new shirt coming out, everybody will rush out and buy one. Why not just wear the shirts you already have? Then Adidas will be on their backs and it is them who will lose money. It will be a drip, drip, drip effect and might take years until they have run us into the ground.
I fully agree with the potential long term deterioration before a rebound occurs.
Stopped reading after 10 paragraphs. He's just repeating what 90% of us know already.
Of course, but he is a fan the same and it is better seeing all our worries actually in print for a wider audience to read, than us weeping on a fan forum.
Andy Mitten pretends to know a lot of things yet says very little, he's just another run of the mill journalist trying to make a penny.
What he's said is not something we didn't know. We are staring at the abyss, we are run by rookies from top to bottom. They are not qualified or competent enough to do a rebuilding job at championship club never mind Utd. Also when it comes to players, need anything to be said when you have this?
What he's said is not something we didn't know. We are staring at the abyss, we are run by rookies from top to bottom. They are not qualified or competent enough to do a rebuilding job at championship club never mind Utd. Also when it comes to players, need anything to be said when you have this?
Shows you all you need to know about those cnuts.
Not much, the players decided that now they have to show everybody that Mourinho was the problem, so they upped their game (right from downing the tools they did prior to Mourinho's sacking), went on for a couple of easy games, had a bit of luck against PSG then they believed their own hype and went back to their complacent selves. Then you've got people like Martial who caught fantastic form prior to his contract prolongation just to magically lose it after it was already prolonged.
I'd love someone like Herrera or Mata to do an exit interview and explain exactly why they're leaving and what is going on behind the scenes to cause this much bother.
Yeah I follow NFL, it’s simply not that simple. But whatever.
Ok.
He's got his article spot on.
To be fair, when the media tell United they're doing something wrong, they eventually wake up and try to do something. So I think they will get a sporting director, they will try sign 'Man United players' and we will start to press the reset button.
6 years too late. We continue to make poor managerial appointments. We let Pep slip through our fingers, Klopp.... we need to get the next world class manager that comes along, the next world class sporting director that comes along, and begin to add the right players window after window. Sad part is, it will take us years to get back to the top level again.
Dark times ahead, it could get worse before it gets better.
To be fair, when the media tell United they're doing something wrong, they eventually wake up and try to do something. So I think they will get a sporting director, they will try sign 'Man United players' and we will start to press the reset button.
6 years too late. We continue to make poor managerial appointments. We let Pep slip through our fingers, Klopp.... we need to get the next world class manager that comes along, the next world class sporting director that comes along, and begin to add the right players window after window. Sad part is, it will take us years to get back to the top level again.
Dark times ahead, it could get worse before it gets better.
Should be obvious by now that the issues started shortly after Woody taking over and handing exhorbitant contracts to bad/average players. SAF still papered over the cracks but he quit at the right time for him.
There's just a different feeling now, compared to other years post Fergie. While it's been common knowledge the board at the club is lacking in competence and for some reason is reluctant to create position for a DOF or whatever you want to call it, and therefore is lacking in planning and recruitment, there was always this belief somewhere that the manager could navigate through some of these issues. Two failed managers later, the same issues persists and aren't going away until someone wakes up & bring the club into the 21st century.
Ole said we could finish behind those teams in his last PC so it could be him.
Which teams?
It's a vitally important summer and have literally no confidence in the people in charge.
Fasten your seatbelts guys.
Fasten your seatbelts guys.
I think the Liverpool supporters were critical of the owners up until a year or two ago. Get the right manager in and things can turn quickly.
Exactly. They lucked-in to getting Klopp.
We aren't even a sinking ship, we are at the bottom of the ocean.
Exactly, lets not forget Liverpool had a similar issue of out of touch American owners making a mockery of their club before their current one took over and they made an effort to put pressure on them and they sold the club off.
We just seem to put our fingers in our ears and sing "Ole's at the wheel".
This is the problem with Solskjaer being appointed, would any manager with ambition to win things have these three in their like up ?
I highly doubt Woodward would have offered extensions without getting the consent from Ole.
Absolute disgrace
Wolves and Everton.
He didn't say that. That's just telegraph's creative headline.
We are a disgrace
Smalling extended his contract when Jose was the manager.
No wonder they are grinning like Cheshire cats.
well we could've lucked into getting him too if Woodward hadn't presented us as some sort of football version of Disneyland.
Pretty much this. Considering the reaction on here I was expecting at least something in the article but we heard it all before.
Honestly people on here are so over dramatic.
I think one of the problems here is that United didn't have a Hugh Culverhouse in charge before the Glazers. You lack perspective. You cannot compare United to the Bucs because of that. 
Do we have to keep trotting this line out? if that's the sole reason Klopp turned us down then he's as much a fool as Woodward. Likelihood is he felt Liverpool were in better shape or that he would not have such intense focus on what he was doing at Liverpool and could put his plan together.
That's a fairly mundane article. It's just repeating what we all know. Any one of us could have written that.