Not only small but also slight. He should go to Germany to a midtable team like Leverkusen..
Angel Gomes (United confirm departure)
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Based on what? Not saying that it's Mou's specialty, or that Ole is bad at it. Just that we don't really know, so it's odd saying that. All I'm saying is that both Mou and Fergie, well respected and knowledgable, experienced managers, have been wrong. So wouldn't really be shocking if Ole got it wrong.
except both Fergie and Ole offered the players contracts while Mourinho pushed them out. There’s a big difference.
Ole was dishing out plenty of games to youngsters. If Gomes wasn’t getting many appearances in the first team, there was probably a reason for it. This is ignoring the fact that he hadn’t looked overly impressive when he did get a chance.
And Mourinho has a good track record with youth does he?
That "if he was good enough he would have played" is the silliest excuse I have heard. Managers judge poorly from time to time. They're not Gods.
It’s clear he wasn’t playing in the second half of the season because of contract issues
Hasn't proven he's worth the trouble.
Hope he fails miserably at whatever club he ends up at, to prove a point to the other youngsters
Hope he fails miserably at whatever club he ends up at, to prove a point to the other youngsters
Solskjær has again and again shown that he's willing to give youngsters the time to prove themselves. Gomes has played, failed to prove he belongs at the level required to play for United and refused to sign a new contract offer while there's plenty of talk about how he believes he should be more involved than he has been.
No idea why some seem to think that we've let Gomes down
Not really bothered to be honest .
It's a shame humans think this way sometimes.
What a sad and pathetic person you are.
Fecking hellHoping you get promoted to the main forum.
5'3" is the new 30 years old
One manager maybe, but when it's multiple managers you have to wonder.
He made his first team debut three years ago.
Hasn't broken through since then.
Scholes was 5ft 7 what a wasted poor quality post
Joking aside well said! Get this man a promotion!
With all due respect, Gomes is even shorter than everyone on the list you gave, by 2 or 3 inches.
You do realise that Gomes was lucky to be in United's academy? So many players get turned away for being too small or not strong enough from academy's.
Height isn't the be all and end all ( unless your Jose) but it does have a big say in today's game.
We don't know what Gomes can become but his height and general somatotype may well stand against him going forward.
Hope he does well but can't help feeling the reason he wasn't playing enough was his efforts in training which doesn't bode well for him .
Leverkusen isn't exactly midtable...
I suspect he’ll go down the Januzaj route. Bags of talent but not the mentality. He obviously also has the physical side to overcome.
Surely towards the end, when it was clear to everyone that Lingard and Pereira's minutes should've been given to Gomes, he was left out because his refusal to sign a contract? Our contract offer must have been in his hands for months now, and the more clear it became he was not going to sign, he was most definitely not getting any game time. I really wanted Gomes to commit and stay, but sometimes you have to make an example out of someone to show other youngsters the club wont be held ransom.Ole was dishing out plenty of games to youngsters. If Gomes wasn’t getting many appearances in the first team, there was probably a reason for it. This is ignoring the fact that he hadn’t looked overly impressive when he did get a chance.
And Mourinho has a good track record with youth does he?
Odd how Chong was having same issues and got game time. Plus he was injured quite a few times when he probably would have played, as he was on MUTV interviews leading up to certain games where he was looking forward to playing. But please feel free to continue with your train of thought, as I don't believe it has any basis.
This. I remember Chong getting game time when he was in a similar contract negotiations. I guess people are coming up with their own narratives.
Guys are forgetting gomez and chong were given a start against Astana (when we won 1-0). Astana was relatively poor team compare to even bottom 10 clubs in PL, and against them both struggled. I still remember the game. Couldn't create, couldn't dominate. Just some moment of brilliance here and there doesn't cut it out. Both were among lowest rated players. And guess who replaced both? Mata and Lingard. And suddenly we started playing much better. Now if both mata and lingard can't guarantee a place on bench, where that leaves gomez?
Most likely he was left out because he is poorer than lingard?
Definitely also a possibility, however in my mind the few times he played he was not clearly worse than Lingard, and he definitely has more potential than Lingard, which leaves me to believe there was more to it, but who knows
There are different stages to poor. Gomes wasn't poor in the same way Chong was. Gomes was quiet, but it's not like he was messing things up. Chong was poor.
Gomes has largely been like that in all his appearances. He's never really suffered from poor touches, boneheaded plays, playing immature, etc...
To be honest I have not watched him as youth much but in his senior appearance he seemed to me more like a 5 yards pass merchant.
Surely a player can get more than 1 chance to shine given that a certain player called Lingard who has been shite for a couple of years keeps getting opportunities?
Imagine poor Messi, he’s both5'3" is the new 30 years old
Agree to that. Don't know how he fairs in training but yeh more chances, or at least 10-15 mins appearances wouldn't have hurt.
Gomes is the new Messi
Good luck to the kid, hope he does well in his career.
Yes, but what has that got to do with my comment about Angel ?
People are questioning his mentality based on absolutely no evidence.
It's out of fear. People are so terrified that he'll go and do well elsewhere that they'll go to lengths to discredit his character/talent.
he’s a terrible poster. I have him on ignore.
I have been saying for six months, if he was my kid brother, I would be telling him to leave. If the manager won't pick him ahead of the likes of Lingard and co, he hasn't got a prayer about playing.
The guy is leaving because he wants to play. How can anyone have a problem with that? He has been professional and respectful. Not made any comments, made himself available and trained like normal. Just last week, the coach said he's been working very hard.
I hold no grudges and hope he becomes the player I think he will be.
Why?
Youth players needs to have faith in the people at the club and that they know what they are doing,
if the club reckons you need more time then there's a reason behind it. Gomes sodding off on a free transfer and being an instant success at another club will just make the process at the club more difficult. How easy would it have been to handle Adnan had he actually been a success at Dortmund, after the club and manager tried to talk him out of the move as the feeling was that he wasn't ready to play at that level.
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